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Old 26th October 2012, 06:45   #646
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Does it make sense in having different size tyres in front and back of a rear wheel drive Safari- something like on Nano. Like 235 in front - wider ones have issue with fender and full turns- and 245 or 255 on the rear?
There is no point tinkering with these things since you will alter the driving dynamics and efficiency significantly. Better stick to stock sizes OR at the most a one level upsize after the vehicle has crossed its extended warranty period, not before.
Unless of course, you have such deep pockets that you just want to experiment without a concern on the consequences...
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Old 28th October 2012, 18:59   #647
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There is no point tinkering with these things since you will alter the driving dynamics and efficiency significantly. Better stick to stock sizes OR at the most a one level upsize after the vehicle has crossed its extended warranty period, not before.
Unless of course, you have such deep pockets that you just want to experiment without a concern on the consequences...
Thanks. That settles my doubts. As I have to buy a new set of tyres was just toying with the options.
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Old 31st October 2012, 12:17   #648
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Hello Ijeet,

Did you get the tires changed, if yes to which brand and size (235 or the 245)?

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Hi Arvind,

I changed to Geolanders 235 as Michs AT were not available. I think i should have gone with 245 coz i can clearly feel the difference in braking. My earlier tyres were 245.

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Old 14th December 2012, 20:14   #649
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The Yokohama Geolander A/T-S 235/70R16, stock replacement for the Safari, has been quoted at Rs. 7300/- per tyre in Shillong. I may get it down to 7000/- per tyre if I negotiate harder. Is this price okay? Also, I need to replace my OEM Duelers after only 29000 kms. as these have developed cracks and I cannot take a chance keeping in mind an upcoming 7000 kms road trip. The spare Bridgestone is unused till date. Is it recommended that the spare be changed as well? I need to take this call in the next few weeks.
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The Yokohama Geolander A/T-S 235/70R16, stock replacement for the Safari, has been quoted at Rs. 7300/- per tyre in Shillong. I may get it down to 7000/- per tyre if I negotiate harder. Is this price okay? Also, I need to replace my OEM Duelers after only 29000 kms. as these have developed cracks and I cannot take a chance keeping in mind an upcoming 7000 kms road trip. The spare Bridgestone is unused till date. Is it recommended that the spare be changed as well? I need to take this call in the next few weeks.
How many times have you used the spare? I would say that you retain a dueller and save on money. Try getting 245 if you can as I remember someone preferring that to 235.
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How many times have you used the spare? I would say that you retain a dueller and save on money. Try getting 245 if you can as I remember someone preferring that to 235.
I have not used the spare for a single metre! What advantages does the 245 have over the 235?
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Old 16th December 2012, 22:57   #652
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After having a few discussions with someone who knows his tyres, I have been advised to go for the Yokohama Geolander 255/65R16. He has assured me that this will not have any fouling and will give me a better grip and braking. Will get the spare changed too.
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I have not used the spare for a single metre! What advantages does the 245 have over the 235?
Bit late! Still!

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Hi Arvind,

I changed to Geolanders 235 as Michs AT were not available. I think i should have gone with 245 coz i can clearly feel the difference in braking. My earlier tyres were 245.

HTH

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After having a few discussions with someone who knows his tyres, I have been advised to go for the Yokohama Geolander 255/65R16. He has assured me that this will not have any fouling and will give me a better grip and braking. Will get the spare changed too.
Do confirm that there no issue/fouling as was promised.
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Bit late! Still!






Do confirm that there no issue/fouling as was promised.
I had another discussion with a fellow Safari owner who upgraded to the Geo 255/65R16 and the following came up:
1. To be absolutely safe, we need to get new alloys, either 7J or 7.5J else, we run the risk of disaster during high speed stints.
2. There will be fouling with the 255 irrespective of what anyone says.
3. No doubt that the braking efficiency increases considerably with the 255.

However, I cannot even think of an alloy upgrade and cannot risk running the 255 on stock alloys as I often test the limits of the vehicle when it comes to speed. Thus, the idea of getting the 255 is shelved. Now, coming to the stock alloys, which size do I get? Should I stick with the 235/70R16 or the 245/70R16 in the Geolanders. I don't want any fouling and as long as the braking is as it is with the stock shoes, I am okay. The decision has be taken in the next week to 10 days as that is when the tyres will be purchased.
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I had another discussion with a fellow Safari owner who upgraded to the Geo 255/65R16 and the following came up:
1. To be absolutely safe, we need to get new alloys, either 7J or 7.5J else, we run the risk of disaster during high speed stints.
2. There will be fouling with the 255 irrespective of what anyone says.
3. No doubt that the braking efficiency increases considerably with the 255.

However, I cannot even think of an alloy upgrade and cannot risk running the 255 on stock alloys as I often test the limits of the vehicle when it comes to speed. Thus, the idea of getting the 255 is shelved. Now, coming to the stock alloys, which size do I get? Should I stick with the 235/70R16 or the 245/70R16 in the Geolanders. I don't want any fouling and as long as the braking is as it is with the stock shoes, I am okay. The decision has be taken in the next week to 10 days as that is when the tyres will be purchased.
The stock are 6.5J and hence experts suggest to stick to 235. I am not sure if 245 is ok on it.

I am a happy Yoko user and I would need to get 2 new tyres soon. Either the 245 or the Wanderer since Wanderer looks wider

For 255, 7J or up is what I learned from here.
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The stock are 6.5J and hence experts suggest to stick to 235. I am not sure if 245 is ok on it.

I am a happy Yoko user and I would need to get 2 new tyres soon. Either the 245 or the Wanderer since Wanderer looks wider

For 255, 7J or up is what I learned from here.
Which alloys you using for the 245? Also, what speedo errors do I have to account for with the 245?
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The stock are 6.5J and hence experts suggest to stick to 235. I am not sure if 245 is ok on it.

I am a happy Yoko user and I would need to get 2 new tyres soon. Either the 245 or the Wanderer since Wanderer looks wider

For 255, 7J or up is what I learned from here.
Currently you are running on 245 or 235 Yokohama?
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Which alloys you using for the 245? Also, what speedo errors do I have to account for with the 245?
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Currently you are running on 245 or 235 Yokohama?
Did I confuse

I use the stock alloy which is 6.5J and the 235's .
What I meant was that, in few weeks I will look at the 245's or the Wanderer and Yoko HTS 235's too.

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Wheels: Stock size now is 245/70 R16. Comes with Apollo A/T tubeless & alloys. Alloys are decent and look good. The wheel arches are superior to the older ones.

Significant Changes in the transmission line. The crown and pinion ratio is 4.1:1 (as compared with 4.88:1 in the previous Gurkha). The final ratio at the wheels remain almost the same, since the new tire sizes are 245/70 (7.5 R16 in the older versions). The new tyre height is 29.5 inches as compared to the older 31 inches. That brings down the ground clearance and increases the overall rpm at the tyres.

Trax gets 245's by Apollo!

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I use the stock alloy which is 6.5J and the 235's .
What I meant was that, in few weeks I will look at the 245's or the Wanderer and Yoko HTS 235's
Thanks, please keep us posted on the experience of your purchase in coming weeks.
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Which ones among the HT tyres would be most comfortable? Indian or Import? Use would be city and highway. I currently have Michelin LTX ATs and wish to switch to even more comfortable ones.
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