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Old 12th July 2012, 11:24   #436
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I saw 225/60/15 C Drives the other day.

Tire calculator says it's around a +2.6% upsize and is within tolerable limits. The dia increases by around 14mm.

# will this increase in dia foul with the wheel well?
# can/should 225 width be mounted on the stock alloys?
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I saw 225/60/15 C Drives the other day.

Tire calculator says it's around a +2.6% upsize and is within tolerable limits. The dia increases by around 14mm.

# will this increase in dia foul with the wheel well?
# can/should 225 width be mounted on the stock alloys?
225/60/15 is 35 mm wider than the stock size 195/65/15. Anything more than a 20 mm difference in width is not advisable.

See http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modify...-your-car.html (ARTICLE: Choosing The Right Set Of Tyres for your Car) for more info on choosing the right upgrade.
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225/60/15 is 35 mm wider than the stock size 195/65/15. Anything more than a 20 mm difference in width is not advisable.
Hehe ! Yes, I am aware of that .. I've been exploring all options.

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# will this increase in dia foul with the wheel well?
# can/should 225 width be mounted on the stock alloys?
I got some answers myself today.
- 225 can be mounted on the stock 6J alloys. I did a test fitting of one wheel at the shop.
- 225/60/15 did not seem to foul anywhere. But then I did not drive with that wheel. Possibly since the dia is bigger, there would remain a chance that the tyre will touch something around the wheel well when going over bad roads/bumps.
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Hehe ! Yes, I am aware of that .. I've been exploring all options.
Lol. I guessed as much, but its surprising how often we overlook the obvious.

However, I'm guessing that it'll be difficult to tell whether 225 would work flawlessly, unless you're brave enough to drive with them. Do keep us posted if you try these out. I'm due for a shoe change in the next couple of months.
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After lots of deliberation, switched to 225/60r15 C-Drives on the stock alloys. Car was earlier running on 205/60r15 db-V550.

Drove 40 odd kms today on good roads. I got a feeling I was sitting slightly higher and ride has improved immensely, which is expected given the huge increase in sidewall height. High speeds feel planted as usual. Braking is good too. No drama. Could not get ABS to kick in.

Let me run them in for a few hundred clicks and see how they behave. This being the monsoons, they should get some wet weather exposure too.

Rs. 7580 each !!!! Ouch.

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After lots of deliberation, switched to 225/60r15 C-Drives on the stock alloys. Car was earlier running on 205/60r15 db-V550.

Drove 40 odd kms today on good roads. I got a feeling I was sitting slightly higher and ride has improved immensely, which is expected given the huge increase in sidewall height. High speeds feel planted as usual. Braking is good too. No drama. Could not get ABS to kick in.

Let me run them in for a few hundred clicks and see how they behave. This being the monsoons, they should get some wet weather exposure too.

Rs. 7580 each !!!! Ouch.

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225 sounds meaty for Civic . I have 205/65/15 PLC, have run around 30K and now I am contemplating upgrading to 17". Did you get the C drive from ChangeMyTyre.com or from a local dealer? Would be great if you can compare with your previous tyres in terms of noise, grip and wear and tear.
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225 sounds meaty for Civic . I have 205/65/15 PLC, have run around 30K and now I am contemplating upgrading to 17". Did you get the C drive from ChangeMyTyre.com or from a local dealer? Would be great if you can compare with your previous tyres in terms of noise, grip and wear and tear.
Got them from a local Yoko dealer. The choices on 15s were:

- 205/60 ES100 for ~ 6300 iirc.
- 205/60 V550 for ~ 6700 (car was running on these)
- 205/65 V550 for ~ 6300
- 205/65 C-Drive for ~ 6100
- 205/65 A-Drive for ~ 5800 I think. Don't recall.
- 225/60 C-Drive for 7560.

Decided to live life king size for a while !

Noise and wear/tear - time will tell I guess. For now, they sound smooth and grip great too. But then they have a 20mm advantage in width over the V550s. So it's an unfair comparo.

What I liked was that the steering feel hasn't changed. That is there is no apparent added heaviness. Still the perfectly weighted Civic steering.
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Rs. 7580 each !!!! Ouch.

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Good to hear this. I'll be very keen to know your feedback - so please do keep me in the loop. Which make are these? Where did you buy? Any rubbing against the metal walls?
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Good to hear this. I'll be very keen to know your feedback - so please do keep me in the loop. Which make are these? Where did you buy? Any rubbing against the metal walls?
Sure. Will update this thread as I put on some miles on the car.

Yokohama C-Drive bought from an authorised Yoko dealer, with a proper stamped warranty card ! The first time I've got a warranty card for tyres :-)

No rubbing at all during full lock turns.
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No rubbing at all during full lock turns.
I am impressed. Thanks.
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There are no issues with the tyres with respect to suspension issues or premature wear.I have not checked the car yet on a full load ie 5 passengers + luggage so can't say anything when the car is packed to capacity but on regular drive with max 3-4 people i have not seen any case where the tyre hits the wheel well.As for mileage there is no significant change.
Hi Sumeethaldankar
Thanks for your input. I did go ahead with the 205/65 R15 upgrade and my experience is very similar to yours. The higher sidewalls have improved ride quality and the wider footprint has kinda made the car just a tad sluggish at the start but am pretty pleased with it.

Quick question: What is the ideal tire pressure for this size? I am at 33psi but the tyres visually look under-inflated. Do you think I can go higher?
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Have decided to get new alloys and tyres for the civic. Contemplating between 16" and 17". Though choice of alloys and tyres are wide in 17", I am leaning towards 16" for a balance in ride quality and handling (and looks).

I am thinking of graphite/Carbon or gun metal alloys. Some of my friends are recommending to opt for black alloys, but I am not too sure how it would come out on a white car. Here are the few I have shortlisted. Your comments would be appreciated!

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I like the first one, with the 7 spokes. Only problem is, it is available in machine black, or hyper silver. Not available in graphite/carbon finish. I have been seeing a lot of cars lately with the Blue/Red colored ring on black alloys. Is that the trend with black alloys? And the above alloys are HRS. How good are they? Any other brands I should have a look at?

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I would go for no:2. It'll look classy.

And I do feel that graphite gray/gunmetal would look better. For example I like the look of the Jazz alloys.

How much do HRS's these cost?
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Civic's stock alloy PCD is 114.3, I think. And the PCD of these alloys are 100+114.3, width is 7.0 and offset is 40. I guess, it should be an easy fit.

Tyres I have on mind:
215/55/R16 (1.26% difference and gain of 4mm in GC)
225/50/R16 (-0.35% difference and lose of 1mm in GC)
225/55/R16 (3.16% difference and gain of 10mm in GC)

Can the tyres Guru tell me of the above sizes, which one is readily available - Yoko and Michelin?

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I would go for no:2. It'll look classy.

And I do feel that graphite gray/gunmetal would look better. For example I like the look of the Jazz alloys.

How much do HRS's these cost?
The gun metal/hyper black/graphite are hard to get by with my choice of the alloy design, I had in mind. But I am searching . Cost is around 20K to 25K for 4 alloys.

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which of these would look great on a white civic?

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215/55/R16 (1.26% difference and gain of 4mm in GC)
Primacy LC

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225/50/R16 (-0.35% difference and lose of 1mm in GC)
Pilot Sport 3. My pick !

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225/55/R16 (3.16% difference and gain of 10mm in GC)
Too much difference. I would not consider this size.

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which of these would look great on a white civic?
For me - the last one
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