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Old 5th May 2010, 01:26   #271
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I am in the process of changing my Aveo1.6LT's old Goodyear NCT5 tires. I was sold on the Yokohama A series but this evening stopped at a different tire shop and they offered the Michelin XM1+ for 3900 a piece, the size being 185/60R14.

This was tempting but confusing as two other Michelin dealers I spoke to earlier were offering the XM1+ for 4400/- and that was one of the reasons that I looked at the Yoko A drives @ Rs. 3400 and the C drives @ Rs. 3800 apiece.

Could these Rs. 3900 Michelins be duplicates/grey market or is this the correct price for these tires, they are made in China. All three dealers feature on Michelin's web site and all will provide a bill. Very confusing would appreciate inputs to help resolve the dilemma.

Would also like to know your view point on the technical front as in my major concern is outright comfort and low road noise. Will not be changing the OE tyre size. So which is a better selection the Yoko or the Mich or should I also look at Continental(if yes then suggest the model please).

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185/60 R14 Michelin XM1+ at 3900/- sounds suspicious. It is actually listed at 4500/-. Even if the dealer gives a discount, it cannot be at 3900/-

I have a feeling they might be used tyres. Please check properly and take a call. Check the date of manufacture as well.

Michelin would be the best for oyur needs, but not at that price. You could look at the Continental CEC3. It is a very competent tyre. It will be priced close to the Yokos.
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Old 5th May 2010, 12:08   #273
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I'm on Michelin XM1+ for last more than 10,000 kms, and just love them. The major difference is the ride quality, grip levels and silent drive compared to stock JKs. The rattles in my Swift are now less frequent, as the new tyres absorb bumps much better than before.
Yes, the FE has come down by upto 1kmpl, but that doesn't matter much.
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Old 7th May 2010, 02:29   #274
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185/60 R14 Michelin XM1+ at 3900/- sounds suspicious. It is actually listed at 4500/-. Even if the dealer gives a discount, it cannot be at 3900/-

I have a feeling they might be used tyres. Please check properly and take a call. Check the date of manufacture as well.

Michelin would be the best for oyur needs, but not at that price. You could look at the Continental CEC3. It is a very competent tyre. It will be priced close to the Yokos.
I had some time today so opened up the Michelin site and called up 4 dealers for the XM1+ while none had the 185/60R14 in stock three of them gave me a price of 3900 and one quoted 4600/-

Now that makes 4 dealers all on the Michelin web site offering this tyre in that particular size offering the same for 3900 and two for 4400and 4600 respectively. What do I do?

The Aveo is used by my parents (100% rear seat) and comfort is the key requirement. I do not want to go with Yokos due to ongoing issues with the AVSdBs in my Cedia so that leaves me with the Continentals or should I spend the extra 2000 and simply go with the XM1+. In the pursuit of comfort read road noise, I am even willing to go with Primacy LC if it is available in the size required.

Which is that the way to go Nikhil? If it has to be Conti then please advise the most comfortable from that manufacturer. I need to change the tires by Saturday for sure as next week I go back to Bombay.
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you could go for the Continental ContiEcoContact3.
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185/60 R14 Michelin XM1+ at 3900/- sounds suspicious. It is actually listed at 4500/-. Even if the dealer gives a discount, it cannot be at 3900/-

I have a feeling they might be used tyres. Please check properly and take a call. Check the date of manufacture as well.

Michelin would be the best for oyur needs, but not at that price. You could look at the Continental CEC3. It is a very competent tyre. It will be priced close to the Yokos.
Why is that I recently got the xm1+ 185/70 R14 for 3900 per tyre this is after the price increase.
Initially got them for 3700k per tyre.
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Guys, I'm thinking of upgrading my iKon's shoes from Good Year GPS2 175/70R13 to Michelin XM1+ 175/70R13.

Road Noise is the main issue because after I upgraded to Alloys from steel rims, the road noise increased a lot. I want the car to be more comfortable and lesser road noise because I have a 500Km. trip coming next month.

Please suggest which tires to go for.
BTW, Dad would not let me buy any cheapo brand like yokohoma or kumho (suggested by friends).

The official michelin dealer in my town quoted Rs. 3350 per tyre for Michelin XM1+ 175/70R13.
Is this price correct?

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Guys, I'm thinking of upgrading my iKon's shoes from Good Year GPS2 175/70R13 to Michelin XM1+ 175/70R13.

Road Noise is the main issue because after I upgraded to Alloys from steel rims, the road noise increased a lot. I want the car to be more comfortable and lesser road noise because I have a 500Km. trip coming next month.

Please suggest which tires to go for.
BTW, Dad would not let me buy any cheapo brand like yokohoma or kumho (suggested by friends).

The official michelin dealer in my town quoted Rs. 3350 per tyre for Michelin XM1+ 175/70R13.
Is this price correct?
Yes road noise is definitely said to decrease after the change to XM1+ happens.
I personally love the xm1+ and would recommend it to everyone.It has loads of grip, less road noise and looks great too.
The price also seems right, considering i got my 185/70 R14 for 3900 recently.
Nikhil will give you a better idea about the price.
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Nikhil any good option for 14s yet ? am still a fan of Turanzas..Xm+ is not bad but i really dont enjoy driving on rough roads....
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Guys, I'm thinking of upgrading my iKon's shoes from Good Year GPS2 175/70R13 to Michelin XM1+ 175/70R13.

Road Noise is the main issue because after I upgraded to Alloys from steel rims, the road noise increased a lot. I want the car to be more comfortable and lesser road noise because I have a 500Km. trip coming next month.

Please suggest which tires to go for.
BTW, Dad would not let me buy any cheapo brand like yokohoma or kumho (suggested by friends).

The official michelin dealer in my town quoted Rs. 3350 per tyre for Michelin XM1+ 175/70R13.
Is this price correct?
I was precisely in the same position as you a month ago when I wanted to replace the GY GPS 2(175/70 R13) on my Esteem to Michelin XM1+. I stuck to the same size and took the plunge for the Michelins.

Have covered around 1500 kms so far with the new tyres and they are way better than the GYs. Road noise is definitely less and the ride quality has improved as well.

I got the set of 5 tyres for my car for Rs 16K. Hope this helps.
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Guys, I'm thinking of upgrading my iKon's shoes from Good Year GPS2 175/70R13 to Michelin XM1+ 175/70R13.

Road Noise is the main issue because after I upgraded to Alloys from steel rims, the road noise increased a lot. I want the car to be more comfortable and lesser road noise because I have a 500Km. trip coming next month.

Please suggest which tires to go for.
BTW, Dad would not let me buy any cheapo brand like yokohoma or kumho (suggested by friends).

The official michelin dealer in my town quoted Rs. 3350 per tyre for Michelin XM1+ 175/70R13.
Is this price correct?
3350/- is a fair price. You can maybe haggle and get a slight discount for 50/- or so per tyre.

And Yokohama isnt a cheapo brand!!
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Nikhil any good option for 14s yet ? am still a fan of Turanzas..Xm+ is not bad but i really dont enjoy driving on rough roads....
What size Lohith? 195/70 R14?

Yoko A drive is a good option.
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185/60 R14 Michelin XM1+ at 3900/- sounds suspicious. It is actually listed at 4500/-. Even if the dealer gives a discount, it cannot be at 3900/-

I have a feeling they might be used tyres. Please check properly and take a call. Check the date of manufacture as well.

Michelin would be the best for oyur needs, but not at that price. You could look at the Continental CEC3. It is a very competent tyre. It will be priced close to the Yokos.
Hi Nikhil,
Appreciate your inputs based on which, I got the sales manager from Michelin involved on this one and he confirmed that the dealer is good and the tire is indeed listed around 4500/-. The dealer I am talking to is a volumes player, one has to see the way other shops around him are being fed from his godown. He gets more 'parchi' customers than actual walk ins. Infact he is the one who got the Yokohama guy to come and look at my AVSdBs. It took him one phone call to get the Yoko guy in line whereas the dealer I bought them from was not successfull at all in arranging the visit.

Now coming back to the XM1+, due to the size not being in demand (185/65R14 being the universal replacement) the dealer had spoken to the manager and he was despatching 3 tires(that was all they had) from Michelin's godown in Gurgaon and one was being arranged from another dealer across town who had picked up 10 of these a few days ago. Went down to the dealer and checked them. All have a manufacturing date of 0810 and are made in Thailand. They have a hologram sticker in addition to the usual largish tyre sticker and well they look like brand new. I will be getting one warranty card mentioning the tire specs and quantity as 4 or individual cards if I so desire. I don't know if anything else is to be checked. If there is do let me know else come Sunday the Aveo gets new shoes. Thank you once again.

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In that case, do go ahead.
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Hi Nikhil / Ishaan (Resident tyre gurus) ..
I have a 1998 Esteem Lx which is currently running Michelin Certis Tubeless 175 / 70 R 13s. These tyres have lasted me for well over 65,000 kms and have proved extremely satisfying. It's now time for a new set of tyres and after reading through all the posts i've sorta settled on getting Michelin Energy XM1 + in the same size. My priorities are grip, ride comfort and low tyre noise. Could you, in your infinite wisdom, please advise me if i've made the right choice, or if there is anything else that i should be looking at . Thanks in advance guys
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Revvhead, I am not a tyre guru, but am using XM1+ for the past 2 years.
Am pretty happy with it, and if offers all that you are looking for (grip, ride comfort and low tyre noise).
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