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Old 22nd July 2010, 11:04   #331
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XM1+ will last longer than Yoko A Drive. This can be some where around 10% of tyre life.
When you have extracted 47K KM on JK, you can extract 50+ on XM1+ for sure.
Sounds good,
The guy at New Bharat tyres is advising me not to go for Yoko, unless Japanese make, as they are having lots of sidewall damage complaints for Philipines make. He suggested Bridgestone is the best for Indian conditions as there is only a very low number of sidewall damages due to hitting potholes at high speed. He mentioned Michelin has a known problem of tread blocks breaking off on turning stationary on metal roads.

So I guess I have made up mind - No Yoko - thanks to the sales guy at New Bharat and No Bridgestone - thanks to TBHP.

Michelin XM1+ it is, now waiting for this month's salary .... will update you guys later about how everything went.

Thanks everyone for the inputs.
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Old 22nd July 2010, 12:00   #332
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XM1+ will last longer than Yoko A Drive. This can be some where around 10% of tyre life.
When you have extracted 47K KM on JK, you can extract 50+ on XM1+ for sure.
sir, how how do you determine expected tyre mileage?
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Guys,

I am planning to go for Michelin XM1+ for my Esteem VXI currently running on Apollo Accelere. Planning for stock size 175x70 R13. Also planning to fill up Nitrogen. Michelin costs 3590 a piece and Yoko costs - 2980. Now i am bit confused since there is difference of 400 bucks.
Is Michelin worth the extra bucks or Yoko is good enough?
Also any issues in filing Nitrogen?
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glidealong,

XM1+ will last longer than Yoko A Drive. This can be some where around 10% of tyre life.
When you have extracted 47K KM on JK, you can extract 50+ on XM1+ for sure.

Hey I have M800 .

Total running 110000kms in 4 years. 75% on Highways and 25% on city roads.

I had stock tyres MRF which I changed after 70K and still 10% life left.
I am using now Mich XM+1 since then. Total 40K till date in 1 year. All tyre rotation done after every 10K kms. Nitrogen filled all time. Tyre pressure checked up regularly . Spare Tyre is still new , never used for rotation. 4 Tyres have still 40% life left and grip, comfort is still good, only noise level has bit gone up after 40K now.

Extremely happy with Mich +1. I have booked Dezire VDI now. I am planning to swap stock tyres to MichXM+1 with Tyre upsize of 185/70/R14 .

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Old 25th July 2010, 13:17   #335
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Ive been running xm1+ on my verna crdi for almost 20k km now. While the comfort and silence has been amazing, the last few thousand km I seem to be struggling for grip. Tire squeal while turning even at moderate speeds is very evident and on an ABS car the tires are losing grip on heavy braking. Unable to determine what the issue could be. Brakes have been checked completely and pads replaced. Are my tires faulty? THere seems to be no loss of tread or anything as such.
+1, me too observed. around 100kms of spirited driving on bad roads makes these tyres bumpy & grip levels go down. I spoke to XL tyre point store manager near my house & he claims that over the past 1.5 years, XM1+ have had its problems & many of his customers have swapped the tyres after initial use. He does not recommend XM1+, u can drop in sometime to Shanthi Colony & meet him.
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Old 27th July 2010, 13:46   #336
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After changing 4 of my oem tyres to XM1+ some months ago(done 6k on it) - last evening in my parking, rear right tyre was torn open by a jagged edge of a hafl-broken divider-type thing.
Sidewalls aren't the strongest but this was disappointing - and to happen while manoevering my car because some idiot had blocked half the road with his car too
3,100 rupees and some frustration in the rain later, a new XM1 went on, while I have had the older one patched (and a tube added) to be used only for emergency purposes (5th tyre) - I don't mind paying for another new tyre in case this is going to hazardous? Also kept hold of my older tubed tyre just in case. Most of my driving is on highways.

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I am changed to XM1+ last month from Goodyear GT3. I am not happy with XM1+, it only gave marginal improvement in Handling but I am unable to perceive any Noise Reduction.

I think, XM1+ is Road Noise Capability is highly overrated.
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Default XM1+ loves wet road

Hilly/winding roads aint easy to drive and esp when its raining hard, last weeked did lots of driving on the wet roads and when it was pouring hard not a single time i felt that i lost control!

Am impressed!

But i dont enjoy this tyres on rough roads!

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Guys,

I am planning to go for Michelin XM1+ for my Esteem VXI currently running on Apollo Accelere. Planning for stock size 175x70 R13. Also planning to fill up Nitrogen. Michelin costs 3590 a piece and Yoko costs - 2980. Now i am bit confused since there is difference of 400 bucks.
Is Michelin worth the extra bucks or Yoko is good enough?
Also any issues in filing Nitrogen?
I had all 5 tyres of my Esteem VXi changed to Michelin XM1+ four months back. The tyres have been filled only with nitrogen since day one. I have done close to 3K on them till now and have not had any issues at all. I love the comfort that the XM1+'s bring with them which was sorely missing in the GPS2's that I had earlier. I paid 3.2k per tyre, by the way.

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Old 27th July 2010, 18:13   #340
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I paid 3.2k per tyre, by the way.
Hi rr_zen, can you tell what size did you put your esteem? 3.2k seems to be a bargain. Where did you get your tires and are they manufactured in 2010?

Thanks in advance.
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I've abused the XM1+ a fair bit (155/70R12) on a couple of Bangalore/Udupi runs and they seem durable enough.
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155/70/R12 is the right size which is similar to that i have put on alto.
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145/80 R12 would be the best bet in XM1+. You can go for 155/70 R12 too if you want a slightly broader tyre.
I was suggested 155/70 R12 for my Alto. I understand its a good choice considering the overall feedback. I also like the slightly broader profile.

Any specific feedback someone wants to share? Whats a decent price for the 155/70 in Chennai?

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Well I have both the Energy XM1 (185/65R14-Baleno) and the C.Drive (225/60R15-Innova). so it is not apples to apples but C.Drive seems more silent than the Energy XM1. In terms of Grip, the C.Drive has a significantly better grip.

In terms of finish, the Michelins win hands down. One look at the tire, and you can say "Fursat mein banaya hai". Yokos are not very far behind but they are. The ride quality in the michelins is slightly better and they do not bounce around too much at high pressure. the yokos become very bouncy at pressures higher than recommended.

Finally, in terms of sidewalls, I had my own share of issues. I hit a pothole at 120 kmph in my Baleno and developed a sidewall buldge in the michelins. There was no air loss and I came to know of it only next morning. The damage was probably caused by the fact that there was a large 2 in screw in the tire that had made it loose air already (pressure around 15psi) and that combined with the high speed impact made the sidewall get pinched between the road and the rim.

On the Yokos, My friend parked my Innova on top of a bunch of thorny bushes and One of the thorns got into the tire sidewall, creating an "unrepairable" puncture that I have managed with a tire patch placed inside the tire.

Yll these damages are a small price to pay for the comfort you get in these tires. I have used Bridgestones (s248) in the past and while the sidewalls held up very well in my case, my friend developed sidewall buldges in two of his Bridgestone tires (s248-165/80R13 tube type) while chasing my car (185/65R14-tubeless Gyear NCT5s) on a 3 hour high speed run in hot weather.

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Need to replace my Michelin Pilot Preceda 2 R14 185/60 (after only 27k)
Problem is with my rear left, quite a few punctures in the last 4-5 months
tread would last 5k kms more ideally

Been doing a lot of reading on the forum, it was a toss up between Acelere Sportz & Energy XM1+.

think i'l settle on the XM1+
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In great dilema here I have a Lancer 1.5P running on company provided MRF ZV2K tires which has done clsoe to 60k kms now due for change
I had initially chosen XM1+ after the amazing difference i got after i changed my 800 tires to XM1+ but now after seeing soo many problems people are facing thinking to consider some more options
Thinking to go for between these options:-
Michellin XM1+
Birdgestone Potenza GIII
Yoko A drive

size i will be goin for would be 185/70R13

are their any other options for me ?
and what would be the best choice?
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just bought 4 yokohomas..
ES100 R14 185/60

they are a lot lighter than the Michelin PP2
makes low speed steering much easier

also the dealer tells me.. apollo have stopped manufacturing the acelere sportz due to noise etc issues

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