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Old 31st December 2007, 10:50   #1
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okay here are my tyre upgrade choice for my cousin's swift vdi(w/o abs though) i have decided 195/65-R14 or 195/70-R14 now would someone suggest me the best brand of tyres for best handling and decent tyre life!

mileage is not a concern though and price for each tyre not more than 5k bucks!

i was kind of planning for 6J or 6.5J rims i can still fix the stock tyres on the 6J rims though, and a max of 7J is allowed for the above mentioned tyre sizes!

please suggest me the best brand of tyres!
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Of the Indian Brands I will only suggest Bridgestone and Goodyear in that order. Of the Bridgestones are far better but have a higher road noise and a lower life but a far superior road grip. You just have to heft the various tyres and you will see that these two are far lighter than the rest.
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For 195's, go for 6 or 6.5J rims. Tyre brands you can check out are Michelin, Yokohama & Bridgestone.
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Dont go for 7J, the ride is very harsh on bad roads. If you want the best tires go with Michelins, nothing comes close to Michelins.
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Dont go for 7J, the ride is very harsh on bad roads.
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Can you explain what connection the width of the rim has to do with the ride quality. I can understand the profile of the tyre playing a role with ride quality.

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Can you explain what connection the width of the rim has to do with the ride quality. I can understand the profile of the tyre playing a role with ride quality.

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Smaller the rim width better the ride but you get more flex affecting handling.

If the rim is too wide then the tyre will be more square and will reduce the sidewall flex. There is also an extreme chance of the tyre coming off the rim.

The above example is with same tyre profile with 2 different rim widths.
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Can you explain what connection the width of the rim has to do with the ride quality. I can understand the profile of the tyre playing a role with ride quality.

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Choosing a wheel near the middle of the range will give a balance between ride quality and handling. A wider wheel will improve handling at the expense of ride quality, while a narrower wheel will improve ride quality at the expense of handling. Consider these compromises when selecting wheels.
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Hi,

I know all of that. My point is that a diff of .5J will not affect ride quality. they are referring to serious differences for eg stock rims size is 4.5j or 5j with 175 tyres and you upsize to 205 or 215 size tyres on those rims not recommended as the tyres will have excessive bulge or installing 175 tyres on 7j rims where the diff is huge.

Guys can i request you to please be practical before making statements that innocent members do not get mislead by. All that you read on Google/Wikipedia does not apply to everyone as their roads, cars, engine size etc is different from that in India.



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Viper putting 195's on 7J is a pretty big difference. It's the upper limit I agree but nonetheless 6J is advisable on our roads to avoid rim/tyre damage.
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Viper putting 195's on 7J is a pretty big difference. It's the upper limit I agree but nonetheless 6J is advisable on our roads to avoid rim/tyre damage.
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Agreed i would recommend 6J for 195 tyres. Rim size also matters for eg 5.5J is most recommended for 13", 6J for 14" and 6.5J for 15". All depends on the total tyre package.

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Viper - You can't say just one width is recommened for all tyres in one size. For eg. Scorpio/Safari ran 235's in 15" while Octavia runs 195's in 15" and 6.5J is not the ideal rim width for either of them. Similarly, if I want to run 205's in 13", I would need at least a 6J rim.

Like you said, it depends on the complete package of Tyre Width, Sidewall profile, application etc. etc. It would be unfair to regard just one width as the correct option for all widths.
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I am running 7Js on 195/60/15 and the ride is very harsh on rough roads, compared to my friend who is running same specs tires on 6.5J rims.

Thanks iraghava for the clarification

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I am running 7Js on 195/60/15 and the ride is very harsh on rough roads, compared to my friend who is running same specs tires on 6.5J rims.

Thanks iraghava for the clarification
Hi,

Are you running identical tyre brands as well. 7J is overkill for you BUSA.
And yes Ishaan you got the gist of what I was saying all boils down to the overall package.

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Are you running identical tyre brands as well. 7J is overkill for you BUSA.
Yup both running Michelins Energy XM1s. 7J is max i can run on these tires, however i have plans of going for 205s hence i opted for 7J.

Also since you say they are overkills for 195s i posted

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enough of OT guys now i need the brand to choose from!

these are the following tyres and their prices
michelinXM1 3800
michelin Pilot precedas 4000
yokohama ES-100 3800
maxxis 3400
good year es1 3200
bridgestone G-III potenza 3600


above prices are for the 195/60-R14

and here are the prices for the 195/60-R15

bridgestone G-III potenza 4400
michelin XMV8 4400
yokohama ES-100 4300
nanking NS1 3400

and for the alloys i was quoated around 18000 for a set of five good ones like LEAGUE or Prestige!

the prestige has the BBS design looks hot on a black swift atleast!
i am getting a silver swift in a week or two for my self and i am going to suggest my cousin the same he has the VDi model and i am getting the LDi model!

people please suggest me the best brand of tyres i already know what alloys to go for!
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