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Old 12th October 2009, 08:49   #61 (permalink)
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I run 185/60R13 on my indica stock rims. This is the max those rims can take. 195 is overstretching it
Brother only because of your review i went for 185/60 R 13.. Thanks a lot it helped me a lot in selecting new shoes for my indica.
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Old 12th October 2009, 13:55   #62 (permalink)
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I did change the tyres on my Indica yesterday, but instead of Acelere went for Michelin XM1+. Also did not upsize to 185, instead kept them 165/65. Those seem pretty grippy to me from my long drive yesterday.
Cost: Rs2,800 per tyre
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Bought a pair of apollo acelere 185/65/R14 for baleno costing 2950 each since i didn't get 'C drives'. initial impression is good. hope it stays without developing bulges.
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I did change the tyres on my Indica yesterday, but instead of Acelere went for Michelin XM1+. Also did not upsize to 185, instead kept them 165/65. Those seem pretty grippy to me from my long drive yesterday.
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Bought a pair of apollo acelere 185/65/R14 for baleno costing 2950 each since i didn't get 'C drives'. initial impression is good. hope it stays without developing bulges.
Bought 185/60 R14 Accelare's for my Indica for 2600 per tyre last week.
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Old 28th October 2009, 15:53   #65 (permalink)
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Its interesting to read that you quote some really wild stuff as *fact* when the evidence points to the contrary.

P.S. If you are indeed involved with one of the above mentioned companies, it would be a good idea to make a commercial declaration about the same right now.
Not involved with any tire company even remotely but have used all tires. My car came on Michelins which are good, but is there a thing called bad tires for city driving? Tires are a commodity product where differentiating factors are negligible in non-racing applications. I've run my cars on tires ranging from MRF/JK/Goodyear to XM1 and in regular (city/highway speed limits and wet surface), there is no distinguishing factor.

Extending on your point, having or not having radials on trucks is a decision of truck makers and truck owners, not of tire makers. If the (current) economics mean that people will not buy radials, why will local companies make them?

As you can see, I'm claiming all tires to be more or less equally equipped to do regular work. It's also very hard to give comparative opinion on tires. You'll practically need to drive the same car in quick succession of tire changes and you'll need to perform standard skid, roll tests to find out which tire is better than the other. Do you believe "we" the non-testers can even comment on which tire is better? Seeing that tires in essence don't differ is straightforward though. It's easy to see how an engine is different from another (even there people get wrong bigtime), but how do you differentiate tires without changing them on the same (or same built) car in quick succession and doing the above mentioned tests that I talked about?

Regarding your point of MRF getting licensed technology - that's true of course. But Indian companies have resorted often to getting licenses for technologies that they use. In case you are not aware, even Apollo learnt from Michelin how to make a tire like Acelere. That's a tech-transfer, not copycat products.

So far as tire making goes, Indian manufactures are good enough and evolving. Continental, Michelin, Goodyear are great companies but not the likes of Bridgestone whose roots are not in innovation, even though they make smashingly good products (now), it must be acknowledged.

Having said that, how many posts have we seen here on the Eagle or EagleF1 which are great tires for mid-end to high-end applications???

Let's check the facts: We run on road, not on track. We stay close to speed limits and we don't abuse our car. And any tire is as good as any other. Our carmakers are yet to come of age, and they will. But our tiremakers are good and racing.
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Used the apollo acelere for few hundred kilometers and find it worth the money. they have better grip than yokohama c drives and are softer, so lesser road noise on cement roads. i expect them to last 25-30k kms or till next mumbai monsoon
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Checked the local market for Accelere, got two quotes:-3600 and other one quoted 3300.Should I search around for better rates?Or 3300/tyre is good enough.
Was quoted 3800/tyre for A-drive and 4200-4400 for Continental.
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Checked the local market for Accelere, got two quotes:-3600 and other one quoted 3300.Should I search around for better rates?Or 3300/tyre is good enough.
Was quoted 3800/tyre for A-drive and 4200-4400 for Continental.
you forgot the tyre size, that will help in comparing prices.
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Sorry for the incomplete post. the size is 195/60/15
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But our tiremakers are good and racing.
I definitely agree. I was considering the Accellare for my accord and was shot down. I don't understand why. I have no personal experience with the brand or their tyres, but most of what I've heard here is positive. I then wonder why the tyre gurus shun our indigenous product?

If I may comment, extremely high tech equipment (yes more complicated than a GTR) is being built in India under license. Stuff that sells for upto 30 crores etc. The point is, this kind of equipment is really sensitive, and has to show immense precision and accuracy, but it is still being produced right here in India!

So the idea is please don't knock Indian products, we are making it up there in terms of quality. I sure would love to get my hands on one of these tyres though...Just for fun
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DocG, We didnt recommend the Apollos for oyur car because you were going for the Aspire or the Acelere Sportz. Both of which have not sold well and there is a lack of feedback(positive or negative).

But most people dont have a hesitation recommending the normal Aceleres. They are tried and tested to some extent.
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DocG, We didnt recommend the Apollos for oyur car because you were going for the Aspire or the Acelere Sportz. Both of which have not sold well and there is a lack of feedback(positive or negative).

But most people dont have a hesitation recommending the normal Aceleres. They are tried and tested to some extent.
OK I can understand that. Thanks for clearing it out Nikhil. I'd definitely like to try out the performance range from Apollo some time in the future, sadly they aren't my choice for my upcoming upgrade.

Nikhil do you by any change stock the Sportz or the Aspire? If you do or even if you just come by one/ could go a little out of your way. I'm sure the TBhp community would be grateful to know how you judge the tyre. I've heard that for many in the business, there comes a time when the tyrewalla can hold the tyre in his hand and determine whether or not it'll be good (Read that as for regular legal daily driving). Thanks,

I'm going in for a new set of tyres real soon (A few days). And if I may say so myself they're probably a TBhp first .
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Well, that would be a very dangerous thing to do! It's quite foolish to judge a tyre only by how it looks and feels.

If you think about it, I'm pretty sure the Aspire and the Acelere Sportz will be decent to drive on. The Acelere is pretty good and these two will definitely be an improvement.
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Need to decide on my next set of tyres for my Embera. Shortlisted the below 4:

Michelin Primacy LC - 9K
Goodyear GSD3 - Rs 5.9K
Goodyear Eagle NCT5 - Rs 6.3K
Acelere Sportz - Rs 7.2K

Except for the price of the Michelin, I am all for it. But any problem with the other options. If anyone has any experience with the Goodyear, Apollo tyres, I would like to hear of it. Need to get the replacements soon.
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Why not the Continental CPC2? And how come no Yokohamas in your list?
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