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Old 28th January 2008, 14:40   #16
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hey KP

will there be any problems in steering if the upgrade is for a non PS Zen.

will it become hard or remain same etc etc

Please suggest.
I have 165/65-13 on esteem steel rims in my zen without PS. Steering is hard at parking speed but light enough once the car gets moving.
So i think 155/65-13 should be the best choice for Zen 4j rims.

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Old 28th January 2008, 15:33   #17
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I put a 165/65-13 on my Zen's steel rim and that was the biggest mistake I made. The tyre was bulging out and this damaged the side walls of the tyre in less than a year (less than 10,000km).
Also since the tyre stuck outside the wheel well, it scrapped the body every time I drove over an uneven surface on road.

I would suggest you to stick to stock wheels.
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Old 28th January 2008, 16:51   #18
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I would suggest you to stick to stock wheels.
now i'm confused.

@ KP

does it make lot of difference between 155/65 and 165/65 ?

how have your experience been regarding the tyre bulging out and scraping against the walls ?
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Old 28th January 2008, 17:10   #19
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Nopes you'll not find much of difference in steering.
Anything broader than thse will be hard on steering.
The ideal upsize for 13" wheeled Zen would be 155/65-13. Anything broader than this will definetely scrap the wheel arch at the backside if your suspension is weak.
Solution for it would be adding spacers.
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I put a 165/65-13 on my Zen's steel rim and that was the biggest mistake I made. The tyre was bulging out and this damaged the side walls of the tyre in less than a year (less than 10,000km).
Also since the tyre stuck outside the wheel well, it scrapped the body every time I drove over an uneven surface on road.

I would suggest you to stick to stock wheels.
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now i'm confused.

@ KP

does it make lot of difference between 155/65 and 165/65 ?

how have your experience been regarding the tyre bulging out and scraping against the walls ?
It does make a lot of difference with 155/65 n 165/65. It will definetely touch the wheel archs

As I have suggested earlier, best upgrade for Zen is 155/65 else stick to 145/70
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Old 28th January 2008, 17:18   #20
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@ KP

does it make lot of difference between 155/65 and 165/65 ?

how have your experience been regarding the tyre bulging out and scraping against the walls ?
145/70-13 (stock size)
Pros - Good steering response.
Cons - Rim bending issues, moderate ride quality and limited tyre options.
My verdict: u won't get anything with this size neither ride quality nor handling...

155/65-13

Pros - Better handling and braking.. More tyre options in market
Cons - I can't think of one other than ride quality which neither great nor bad.
My verdict: Perfect upsize for enthusiasts.

165/65-13

Pros - Fantastic handling and braking
Cons- FE goes down by 1-2kmpl, it needs 4.5j rims and needs some modification to the wheel well.
My verdict: Don't get this size unless u have some sources to mod the wheel well. Drop in FE should be considered

145/80-12

Pros - Fantastic ride quality and FE
Cons - Understeer, handling won't be great..
My Verdict: U may get this size if u are very particular about FE. Its a very good option for bad roads..
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It does make a lot of difference with 155/65 n 165/65. It will definetely touch the wheel archs
I have seen 155/65-13 with 5.5j alloys fouling against the wheel wells in a zen and 165/60-13 with 5j alloys not touching anywhere..
I have 165/65 -13 with esteem rims and with minor mod to the rear quarter panel it doesn't touch anywhere.
Its all in the rim size till 165s for a zen...

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I agree with kpzen. i am running 165/65/-13 on my zen and it doesnt touch anywhere. you just have to get the rear wheel wells tapped from inside .No need of any suspension mods.The ride and handling has improved .i upgraded from 145/70-13.
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Same here.. recently i upgraded the tyres of my zen from stock to stallion alloy wheels with 165/65 R13 rubber.. no touching nothing and no modification done at all.. have been driving for some time now.. and the stearing and breaking and comfort are top class.. earlier i had 145/80 R12 on steel rims..
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Same here.. recently i upgraded the tyres of my zen from stock to stallion alloy wheels with 165/65 R13 rubber.. no touching nothing and no modification done at all.. have been driving for some time now.. and the stearing and breaking and comfort are top class.. earlier i had 145/80 R12 on steel rims..
Any info on the stallion wheels? Where are they made? How good are they?
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i just got them fitted few days back.. till now i havnt encountered any trouble.. they came with 3 years warranty for any crack or something... rest i feel that are better than SM .. the dealer told me that they are better than NEO as well as he was facing lot of complaints from NEO wheels that he sold.. but he was very confident for stallion...

If you want i can post some pics tomorrow.
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dude just go for 165/60/r13 it will not touch any where.....
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i just got them fitted few days back.. till now i havnt encountered any trouble.. they came with 3 years warranty for any crack or something... rest i feel that are better than SM .. the dealer told me that they are better than NEO as well as he was facing lot of complaints from NEO wheels that he sold.. but he was very confident for stallion...

If you want i can post some pics tomorrow.
Am asking because i have been using the same brand for the last couple years. Pretty happy with them. But had never heard of the make before.
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I fitted 155/70 (Pirelli Tubeless) tyres on my Zen D, up from the stock 145/70 and have been pretty happy with the result. Tyre dealer suggested 155/70 rather than the 155/65 as this would give me some additional height - made a difference when going over speedbreakers. Also steering effort feels less than what is used to be on old Goodyear tube tyres.

Only issue I now have is the air is to be leaking out of my steel rims. Might have to consider new steel rims or get alloys as I have done over 1 Lakh km on the current rims.
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thats a decent upsize for the zen .. considering that you have run over 100,000kms on the current steel rims its about time you had them changed to new ones or you could get a set of alloys as they would be more durable.

I was running 155/65 Apollo Acceleres on my 4.5j steel rims for a while and recently upgraded to 165/60 R13 Bridgestone Potenza GIIIs on my zen with 5j Aura rims. the 155/65 R13s reduced the overall height a little bit but the ride comfort and grip was pretty good. the 165/60 R!3s on 5j rims causes a bit of a scrape on the rear right sid tyre because of touching the wheel well only if the car is loaded at the rear and if the car takes small jumps at high speeds .. else its doesn't pose as a problem as such ..

my cousin is using 165/65 R13s on 5.5j rims and these were touching the wheel well edges most of the time. he had spacers put in and now he doesn't have any problems but i feel overall stability of the car is compromised once you put spacers on.
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thats a decent upsize for the zen .. considering that you have run over 100,000kms on the current steel rims its about time you had them changed to new ones or you could get a set of alloys as they would be more durable.

I was running 155/65 Apollo Acceleres on my 4.5j steel rims for a while and recently upgraded to 165/60 R13 Bridgestone Potenza GIIIs on my zen with 5j Aura rims. the 155/65 R13s reduced the overall height a little bit but the ride comfort and grip was pretty good. the 165/60 R!3s on 5j rims causes a bit of a scrape on the rear right sid tyre because of touching the wheel well only if the car is loaded at the rear and if the car takes small jumps at high speeds .. else its doesn't pose as a problem as such ..

my cousin is using 165/65 R13s on 5.5j rims and these were touching the wheel well edges most of the time. he had spacers put in and now he doesn't have any problems but i feel overall stability of the car is compromised once you put spacers on.
Not sure if it is worth investing in a set of alloys, as the Car (and rims) is over 7 years old; and I might sell and upgrade to something else this year. Am thinking of getting new steels rims for the short term, if the leaks get to be a problem.

How much did the Aura Rims cost you?
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