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Old 1st April 2010, 22:23   #121
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Hi Fellow BHP'ians

I have just booked myself a Ford Fiesta 1.6S and I am looking for some expert advise on the correct tyre & allow wheels upgrade.

The car comes shod with stock 15" alloy wheels 195/55/R16 Good Year PCT's which I wish to upgrade to larger alloys & tyres.

I could do some expert advise on getting some good rubber ( and alloys) considering that I am fairly "spirited" driver and I have worked out some options as below. I am ideally looking at larger wheels for the car as technically the wheel well's could accommodate the same:

1. 205/55/R16 - increases the overall diameter by 6.04% (+36 MM)
(available with leading tyre brands)

2. 215/55/R16 - increases the overall diameter by 7.90% (+47 MM)
(available with leading tyre brands)

3. 215/50/R16 - increases the overall diameter by 4.19% (+25 MM)
(Don't know whether this configuration is available in the market)

4. 215/45/R17 - increases the overall diameter by 4.87% (+29 MM)
(available with leading tyre brands)

It will help immensely if I could get some advise / leads / hands on experiences of fellow 1.6 S owners with pointers on:

- Which would be the best upgrade for performance (handling)

- Which would be best as a good compromise between performance & ride quality considering quality of roads (I live in Bangalore)

- Whether any of the configurations above will touch the wheel wells?

- Whether in general these configs may not touch the wheel well but may touch the upper part of wheel well when encountering a speed bump or a ditch?

- All the above configs would increase the overall ride height so I am keen to know how will that effect on speedo error, fuel economy?

Eagerly awaiting responses!

Thanks

Abhishek
Hi Abhishek,

As Guilead has rightly pointed out, upsizing your alloys will be pointless and your tyres might end up scraping the wheel arches. Also,your ride quality will be really bad, especially given Bangalore's roads.

I would suggest you stick to the stock size of 195/55 R15 but go for a better compound of tyre.

1). Yoko S drive : Pretty good VFM. Not too great though. But for some spirited driving, these will hold up well. A little noisy though.

2). Conti CPC2: My current favourites. Good blend of ride comfort + performance. It isnt the most silent tyre though.

3). Yoko Advan Neovas : Hardcore performance. Very very expensive and quite noisy. But if performance and grip is what you are looking at, tyres dont get better than this. Not only in India, but anywhere in the world.

4). Maxxis MA-Z1. Grip is somewhat equal to the S drives but at a slightly cheaper price.

Honestly, I would recommend the CPC2s. They cost about 4.7k per tyre compared to 7.4k per tyre for the Advan Neovas. S drives cost about 4.7k as well. When you consider price, the CPC2 wins it outright.


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I am getting Fiesta 1.4 Sxi model. Please let me know which the best tyre size(185/65/R14 or 184/60R14). I am planning to go for Michlien Energy XM1+. Any idea about pricing in Bangalore?
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185/65 R14 is better as the ride quality will be better.

XM1+ will cost oyu about 3.9k per tyre.
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Old 16th April 2010, 16:57   #122
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Question Tyre upgrade for 1.6S

Hi all,

Which is the best replacement for the stock tyres in Fiesta 1.6S from comfort point of view. The stock tyres that come are 195X55X15 of Goodyear make.

Will Michelin Primacy LC 195 X 60 X 15 be suitable (they dont have the one in Stock size). Will going for higher profile tyre be a good move. Wont it spoil the whole balance.

Looking fwd for a expert advise.

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Hi all,

Which is the best replacement for the stock tyres in Fiesta 1.6S from comfort point of view. The stock tyres that come are 195X55X15 of Goodyear make.

Will Michelin Primacy LC 195 X 60 X 15 be suitable (they dont have the one in Stock size). Will going for higher profile tyre be a good move. Wont it spoil the whole balance.

Looking fwd for a expert advise.

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195/60/R15 will scrape on the 1.6S and spoil the driving experience. Kindly avoid it. Michelins are not available officially in the 1.6S stock size. As suggested above, go for the Continental CPC2 in the stock size.

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I can vouch for the CPC2! I am currently running the CPC2 on my 1.6S and believe me folks, its a huge step forward in handling of this car.

- Grip, is just awesome. I can take corners much faster with great confidence.
- The tires offer very good traction from start, they don't waste the horsepower in wheel-spin. I used to hate this with the NCT5.
- The CPC2 is slightly noisy, but not as noisy as the NCT5. Its something I can live with for sure.
- Braking has improved a lot. I am yet to test it anyway. (planning another trip to Sholavaram soon )

I will be posting more detailed pics and review in the CPC2 thread soon.
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The tires offer very good traction from start, they don't waste the horsepower in wheel-spin. I used to hate this with the NCT5.
So you do wheel spin take offs eh. I have done it only once on the day I bought my car when it stalled it on the entry ramp into my house. It deposited a good patch on the slope and I have not repeated it since. Mr Bean and I were at XL Tyre Point yesterday. That guy was also saying CPC2 is a good tire. Has your pulling issue been fixed?
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WheelSpins!

My favorite wheel spin spot at Nandanam signal going towards Saidapet, especially when I get to be on the front row. The tarmac near the stop line is very smooth and the NCT5 makes nasty hell of noise with terrible wheel spin when I start, I do (manual launch control) and then zoom all the way to DSC signal. Its superb fun to watch all the cars fade away in the mirror.

The pulling issues, looks like its resolved. I need to drive around for another week to get a clear confirmation!
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I want replace stock tyres (MRF 175/65R 14) on my new Fiesta 1.6 SXI (as soon as I take delivery) to Micheline. Which one is better? Micheline energy XM1+, 175/65 R14 or 185/60 R14? If anyone know the cost of this in Bangalore (and better shop in south Bangalore), it would be very helpful.
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It's better you go in for 185/65 R14 as it will give you excellent ride comfort.

If you want grip, then 195/60 R14 Continental CPC is the best option.
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I want replace stock tyres (MRF 175/65R 14) on my new Fiesta 1.6 SXI (as soon as I take delivery) to Micheline. Which one is better? Micheline energy XM1+, 175/65 R14 or 185/60 R14? If anyone know the cost of this in Bangalore (and better shop in south Bangalore), it would be very helpful.
Michelin Energy XM1+ is a good choice, I had got the stock MRF tyres of my fiesta replaced with Michelin's from the Ford dealer itself, costed me Rs 5K additional after the swap. Till now no issues, the grip is good, less noise. The big test would be during the monsoons.
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Guys,

i damaged one of my tyres (front left) last week on my way to Pune. details in my thread "http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-drives-initial-ownership-reports/65901-my-new-babys-home-ford-fiesta-1-6sxi-premium.html?highlight=fiesta"

should i go for a different brand for 1 tyre (like Michelin) - or should i stick to the same brand (which i think is Bridgestone). i am concerned with the road noise with the current tyres - its a bit annoying. but i dont intend to change all tyres at this moment

thanks !!
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^^ Best to stick with the same brand, that's what I would do. If you've been rotating your spare tyre with the other 4, its probably a good idea to use the spare for daily use, and the new tyre as a spare.
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my previous tyre for fiesta was Michelin pp2 205/50/15 since it had done 35,000 km and only few hundred km of life in it i thought of changing the tyre and choose few tyre like Yoko Advan Neovas, Maxxis MA-Z and CPC2.

I even thought of Michelin PS 3 one day but left it since it would cost high but things changed when i saw the price in the tyre shop. As the steering was bit heavy since i was using 205/50 this time i had fixed my mind to change to 195/50 or 195/55 but PS3 was available 195/50 so i decided to take it.


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Can anyone tell me what would be cost of 185/60 R14 in Bangalore (which shop?). Any idea what would be better deal I can expect for exchanging Stock tyres.

At the moment I have following quotes from different shops.
Rs. 4600~4700 for XM1+ (180/60/R14) or 3900~4000 for XM1+ (175/65 R14 same as stock tyre).

Old tyres MRF ZVt 175/65 R14 for 1700~ 2700. The 2500+ vendor says actual price depends on valuation of the Tyre.

Do you think I am getting good deal, or should I stick to stock tyre? I feel 4700-1700=3000 deal is too pricey for me... I would go with stock tyre in that case. If I get 4700-2500, should I go for replacement?

One more question, most replied saying go for 185/65 R14, but correct tyre sizing is 185/60R14 (even Micheline says so). Am I right?
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185/60 R14 is technically more accurate, but dont go only by theory.

In the practical world which is filled with speed humps of various sizes and bad roads, 185/65 R14 is best.
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I want replace stock tyres (MRF 175/65R 14) on my new Fiesta 1.6 SXI (as soon as I take delivery) to Micheline. Which one is better? Micheline energy XM1+, 175/65 R14 or 185/60 R14? If anyone know the cost of this in Bangalore (and better shop in south Bangalore), it would be very helpful.

Hold on !!! Dont do it in your new car. Talk to the ford dealer before you do any changes...
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