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Old 23rd May 2008, 23:29   #1
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I finally decided to change my tyres and rims of my Baleno. Decided to go for 14" considering the pot hole roads I would have to face everyday in Kolkata. But again I would give more emphasis on performance. Looking at all the tyres I am totally confused. Unfortunately I cant test drive with those tyres so have to rely on all your experiance

Options with prices quoted by dealers in Kolkata:
195/60/R14
Goodyear F1 GSD2 - 3200
Michelin PP - 4170
Michelin XM1+ - 4110
Apollo Accelere - 3400
Goodyear GSD3 (newly launched for 195/60/14- don't know at all how good is this one) - 4600
Bridgestone Potenza GIII - 3600

I thought of including Yokos but considering the fact that they dont have any setup in Kolkata I decided to go against it.
My requirement:
Performance - 75% (for my spirited driving)
Comfort - 25%
Should not affect the FE much
I just dont want to regret later

C'mmon guys help me out on this. Would really look for some inputs from Ishaan, rjstyles,supremeBaleno and anyone from the Baleno club.
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Your budget seems flexible
4xGSD2 = Rs. 12800
4xGSD3 = Rs. 18400

Btw, who gave you the info on GSD3@14"? The Goodyear shop on VIP Rd told me last Saturday that they still come only in 15s.

From that list, the popular vote will probably be for the PPs.
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Btw, who gave you the info on GSD3@14"? The Goodyear shop on VIP Rd told me last Saturday that they still come only in 15s.
I got the news from Minku (of Indo Radial). This size was just launched by Goodyear.

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From that list, the popular vote will probably be for the PPs.
Yup, my vote would go there.
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stay away from the goodyears. since your requirement is performance the best choice would be pps and 2nd choice should be g3s.
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195/60-14 on the baleno is great when you first geat them,then when you want to push your car more they start holding you back.

Might i humbly suggest 15"ers with any of the above mentioned tires or the s-drives,bfgs and others that start in 15".

Im saying this since you emphasise on performance.(Which all baleno owners do btw:P)
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Might i humbly suggest 15"ers with any of the above mentioned tires or the s-drives,bfgs and others that start in 15".
Only issue with 15" is that the ride quality will suffer a lot. Some people say that if you have 15" you might need to change your shocks more often. Again if I travel a lot, I will have to take into consideration the width of the side walls also. So thought of choosing a optimum solution and hence opted for 195/60/R14. What say?
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Only issue with 15" is that the ride quality will suffer a lot. Some people say that if you have 15" you might need to change your shocks more often. Again if I travel a lot, I will have to take into consideration the width of the side walls also. So thought of choosing a optimum solution and hence opted for 195/60/R14. What say?
a couple of people are running on 15s so you can ask them. i know rjstyles is running on them with s-drives.
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195/60-14 on the baleno is great when you first geat them,then when you want to push your car more they start holding you back.

Might i humbly suggest 15"ers with any of the above mentioned tires or the s-drives,bfgs and others that start in 15".

Im saying this since you emphasise on performance.(Which all baleno owners do btw:P)
Am at a loss here. Care to elaborate how, say, 195/55/15s would hold back less than 195/60/14?

It is true though that when I switched from 185/14s to 195/14s I immediately felt a slight lethargy getting off the block.
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stay away from the goodyears. since your requirement is performance the best choice would be pps and 2nd choice should be g3s.
Why the bias against goodyear ??
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I finally decided to change my tyres and rims of my Baleno. Decided to go for 14" considering the pot hole roads I would have to face everyday in Kolkata. But again I would give more emphasis on performance. Looking at all the tyres I am totally confused. Unfortunately I cant test drive with those tyres so have to rely on all your experiance

Options with prices quoted by dealers in Kolkata:
195/60/R14
Goodyear F1 GSD2 - 3200
Michelin PP - 4170
Michelin XM1+ - 4110
Apollo Accelere - 3400
Goodyear GSD3 (newly launched for 195/60/14- don't know at all how good is this one) - 4600
Bridgestone Potenza GIII - 3600

I thought of including Yokos but considering the fact that they dont have any setup in Kolkata I decided to go against it.
My requirement:
Performance - 75% (for my spirited driving)
Comfort - 25%
Should not affect the FE much
I just dont want to regret later

C'mmon guys help me out on this. Would really look for some inputs from Ishaan, rjstyles,supremeBaleno and anyone from the Baleno club.
If potholes is actually a problem then you should to stick to 13" only.

But in 14" 195/60 R14 foolowing are the best options :
PP2
ES100
BFG
GIII
GY

One of frens told me YOKO is available in KOL.
For spirited driveing XM1 and acelere are NO-N0.
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Why the bias against goodyear ??
90% of the reviews you read of them are bad.
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Either PP2s or Yokos. AFIK, Minku is the Yokohama dealer now.
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FYI- 195/60/14 PP2 is not available. Only PP1 is available.

2nd, go for PP1, you'll get everything you are looking for. Also, if you negotiate well, you can bring the price down to 4100 and also get the reebok sunglasses free with them.
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Why the bias against goodyear ??
Because from most personal experiences (including mine) they've been nohting but below par.

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AFIK, Minku is the Yokohama dealer now.
Yes, he is.
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I know Goodyear has a bad reputation on this forum, but there are quite a few people I know who have been satisfied with them. Some fellow Kolkata BHPians have F1 GSD2s on their cars, and they haven't complained. I have GA Plus tyres on my Santro and have been thoroughly impressed by them.
Some, like Ishan, have had bad experiences with Goodyears, so they have a right to criticize them. But I would humbly request others to base their advice on personal experience rather than on what they read about.
And no, I have no personal inclination towards Goodyear.

I haven't read any reviews on the F1 GSD3s. Has anyone used them? If so, what's the verdict?
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