New Tyres for Alto Lxi 2003-42k kms done !

[BUXX]

Hi everyone;

I have a Alto Lxi 2003 that has done 42k kms on the stock wheels & rims. ( Bridgestone radials- 145 80 R12)

Think its time for a tyre change; i need to buy 4 tyres.

My usage would be abt 1200 kms/mth of Meerut-Delhi Highway.

I am not satisfied with the Braking of the Alto ( Have recently replaced all 4 Braking Calipers) so would like to know if wider/upsizing the tyres would be a good idea?

Pls do remember that this car wud be single driven mostly & occasionally fully loaded with 4 passengers+ am not very keen on modding the car to fit the tyres

( i dont want the tyres scraping the wheel arches/front bumper when i hit a pothole/speedbreaker/ fully-loaded car etc..)

Please advise on what would be the tyres that i should go for?

P.S: any benefit if i replace the old rims with new ones? ( will cost 300rs/rim) coz they might have got bent/deformed over 5yrs?

Also, if i get the new tyres; would i need to get Wheel Balancing& Alignment also? If so, then i can get it done when the Car's service is due in 15days (do it at every 5k kms)

Plaese suggest as to what tyres should i get( with price) & a good Dealer in Delhi.

[VJ_MAVRICK]

Assuming you are sticking to the same wheels as you mentioned in the post, 155/70/R12 Tubeless can be a good upsize. Oops ! so are you planning for tube ones or tube less?

155/70/R12--Goodyear GPS2 Tubeless is one option
165/60/R12 -->G3's Bridgestone

Not sure about michelins or Yokos in the same range. Others might be able to chip in for that.

[WasavaTyres]

Yes, I recoomend that 155/70/R12 Goodyear GPS2 would be a good option. They're available as both tubeless as well as tubetype versions.

[tsk1979]

The GPS2 tire wears out quickly. I would suggest you go for either Apollo Acelere or MRF.
They give you longer life.
Go for 155width, it will not scrape the sidewalls.

[nicejits]

Tubeless on Stock RIMS is not a good option, I would suggest if you are planning to keep same RIMS go for Tubbed Tires, JK tires has good offer : 3 yrs / 450000 km warranty and its very economical

[tsk1979]

Originally Posted by nicejits

Tubeless on Stock RIMS is not a good option, I would suggest if you are planning to keep same RIMS go for Tubbed Tires, JK tires has good offer : 3 yrs / 450000 km warranty and its very economical

Why not? I am using tubless on stock rims, and nowadays many cars with steel rims come with tubless tires.
Only in case of rim damage due to bending etc., you need a new rim, and cost is around 500rs

[nicejits]

rim damage - thats d point my friend, it will will be recurring expense for BUXX

[Technocrat]

I know of two friends of mine who are using tubeless on stock rims on Alto & have faced no issues in last 3 years.

[rjstyles69]

Originally Posted by nicejits

rim damage - thats d point my friend, it will will be recurring expense for BUXX

This is new to me. I have run my car on tubeless with the stock rims on the worst of roads and no issues as such.

To be precise I did numerous trips to Kundapur and Mangalore in 2006 and also covered almost 6-8k kms with tubeless tyres on stock rims. No damages what so ever.

My trips was mostly on the dreaded Bangalore - Mangalore highway.

[cyclops]

Originally Posted by nicejits

rim damage - thats d point my friend, it will will be recurring expense for BUXX

i've done 6k on the stock rims with tubeless xm1+'s.. no problem with the wheels yet.. though the tyres got punctured many times..

[BUXX]

Originally Posted by VJ_MAVRICK

Assuming you are sticking to the same wheels as you mentioned in the post, 155/70/R12 Tubeless can be a good upsize. Oops ! so are you planning for tube ones or tube less?

155/70/R12--Goodyear GPS2 Tubeless is one option
165/60/R12 -->G3's Bridgestone

Not sure about michelins or Yokos in the same range. Others might be able to chip in for that.

Dont mind going the Tubeless way if the cost difference isnt too much over the tubed ones.

How much do the GPS 2 cost? & are the 165/60 too wide for an Alto? and nobody has given the suggestion to get upsized 13" tyres? why?!

i would like to get non-indian brands only...so no Ceat,MRFs for me..

Plz DO answer the 2nd part of my Query:

1)any benefit if i replace the old rims with new ones?

2)Also, if i get the new tyres; would i need to get Wheel Balancing& Alignment also?

3)Plaese suggest as to what tyres should i get( with price) & a good Dealer in Delhi.

[VJ_MAVRICK]

Originally Posted by nicejits

rim damage - thats d point my friend, it will will be recurring expense for BUXX

I think its definitely a myth associated that tubeless tyres cannot run on stock rims as there are many rides that defy that logic and still run pretty well. Yeah ! Its a different story altogether as generally on tyre up gradation to tubeless most of the folks plan on alloys to balance the aesthetics and i think its nothing more than that.

[akroy]

Suggest you to go for tubeless for sure. If you want to stick to same size tyres then Michelin XM1+ 145/80R12 is in market now. get them.

If you want to upsize then go for 155/70R12...

If you want to upgrade your rims as well then pls go through the following thread:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...michelins.html (GoodBye & Thankyou JKs, Welcome Michelins...)

The handling improves many fold on 13inchers.

Abhi

[lancer_rit]

Originally Posted by VJ_MAVRICK

I think its definitely a myth associated that tubeless tyres cannot run on stock rims as there are many rides that defy that logic and still run pretty well. Yeah ! Its a different story altogether as generally on tyre up gradation to tubeless most of the folks plan on alloys to balance the aesthetics and i think its nothing more than that.

It can but there can also be problems. My friend has air loss problem with more than one tyre on his Octavia. He has even put a tube inside one tyre.
It also depends on how strong the steel rims are. If you use tubeless on Matiz steel rims for example, you are in for trouble... So, the risk is higher that you lose air with tubeless on steel rims - however, as a %, that could still be a minor fraction.

[VJ_MAVRICK]

Originally Posted by lancer_rit

It can but there can also be problems. My friend has air loss problem with more than one tyre on his Octavia. He has even put a tube inside one tyre.
It also depends on how strong the steel rims are. If you use tubeless on Matiz steel rims for example, you are in for trouble... So, the risk is higher that you lose air with tubeless on steel rims - however, as a %, that could still be a minor fraction.

Well ! again it could be true for the instance you quoted and one never knows if such things does not happen in their vicinity.