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Old 30th April 2008, 11:38   #256
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Zaks, please check the posts below, if you wanna upsize from 13" to 14", the best upsize is 185/65 R14.

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Meanwhile I checked the Tire Calc, it shows the best upsize for 165/80 R13 is 185/65 R14.
For 175/65 R14, the best upsize would be 185/60 R14 as iraghava pointed out earlier.
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165/80 R13: OD - 594.2
185/60 R14: OD - 577.6 Change -2.8%
185/65 R14: OD - 596.1 Change 0.3%

So, it's better you go in for the latter option.
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Old 30th April 2008, 12:42   #257
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Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile Difference
165/80-13 5.2in 11.7in 23.4in 73.5in 862 0.0%
185/70-14 5.1in 12.1in 24.2in 76.0in 834 3.4%
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Zaks

185/70-14 is a wrong upsize and there's every possibility of it scrapping with wheel wells.
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Old 30th April 2008, 17:37   #259
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ok, will go with what you say then. thanks
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need help in going for an upsize of tyres for my Palio 1.2 ELX

ya i know the best option is 185/65 R14.( i will be getting Petra 14" rims)
will this make my steering tight. ?? i like the existing feel of my steering ,just precise.

i like Turanza ER300 as i want comfort ride for touring.. only size available in R14 for this is 185/60-R14.. is it ok if i go for this..

my priority is touring & comfortable ride, preparing for this monsoon & also its my daily commute to my office. not much worried abt speedometer error..

or just stick to stock, i.e 13" rims & in that i like bridgestone Donuts 350.. 175/70R13 82S, is it good enough...

please advice

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Old 7th May 2008, 01:33   #261
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185/65 R14 will not have much effect on your steering effort provided you maintain the right air pressure. And instead of the ER-300 (Limited availability, hard to source) choose between Michelin XM1+ & Yoko A300.
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185/65 R14 will not have much effect on your steering effort provided you maintain the right air pressure. And instead of the ER-300 (Limited availability, hard to source) choose between Michelin XM1+ & Yoko A300.
thanks for the reply,

here in Bangalore ER300 is readily available @3600 per tyre. bit costly though.. one of the reason for me to go tubeless is the proximity of Madhus tyre shop to my place which can fill nitrogen @ Rs.30/- per tyre..its a great boon particularly when u go out for long drives.. in tubed tyres sometimes i have checked that air pressure goes up as much as to 32psi from 28psi after some 2-3 hours continuous drive...
i will be keeping 28 psi for all the four tyres as specified in fiat manual...

i am not much of fan of Michelin tyres, though they beat bridgestone hands down in dry tarmac, but for wet & dusty tarmac , it is bridgestone.

don't know much about YOKO's will gather information..

ER300 is 185/60 R14
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I think Yokohama A drive is also available in 185/65-14 and it looks better than A300..
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in tubed tyres sometimes i have checked that air pressure goes up as much as to 32psi from 28psi after some 2-3 hours continuous drive...
i will be keeping 28 psi for all the four tyres as specified in fiat manual...
That will happen in all tyres & it's due to the tyres heating up due to continuous driving. There's nothing wrong in this, it's just a natural property of rubber to heat up. And you need to check your tyre pressures when they are cold not right after a long drive.

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ER300 is 185/60 R14
Then that's a no go. Anyway Michelin XM1+ in 185/65 R14 is for 3400.
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That will happen in all tyres & it's due to the tyres heating up due to continuous driving. There's nothing wrong in this, it's just a natural property of rubber to heat up. And you need to check your tyre pressures when they are cold not right after a long drive.
thats the reason for going to 100% nitrogen fill.. cas' nitrogen does not expand to heat & palio tyre pressure set at 28PSI feels heaven inside...

anyways i will check out YOKO's since 175/65 R14 is available both in A drive & A 300...

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thats the reason for going to 100% nitrogen fill.. cas' nitrogen does not expand to heat & palio tyre pressure set at 28PSI feels heaven inside...

anyways i will check out YOKO's since 175/65 R14 is available both in A drive & A 300...

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100% nitrogen, not even the best labs in the world can give you that. Probably more closer to 85-90% for that kind of price. And why go for that when free air already has 75% nitrogen
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Then that's a no go. Anyway Michelin XM1+ in 185/65 R14 is for 3400.
wow thats cheap, i paid 3940 for mine

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cas' nitrogen does not expand to heat & palio tyre pressure set at 28PSI feels heaven inside...
me using nitrogen as well but I find the ride harder than air for some reason. using 29 for fronts and 28 for rear
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ya i know the best option is 185/65 R14.( i will be getting Petra 14" rims)
will this make my steering tight. ?? i like the existing feel of my steering ,just precise.
You can also look at the Appolo Accellere and Good Year NCT5 for that size.

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You can also look at the Appolo Accellere and Good Year NCT5 for that size.
i saw a PALIO D with 185 profile & it did not impress me much , it looked too big for the car,tyres seems to get more attention than the car, anyways, i have zeroed on only 175/65 R14 else R13.. & also i feel 175 is more than enough & 185 might make my daily ride in traffic a bit slow..

liked the GOODYEAR NCT5 pattern very much , my existing goodyear tyres hold well in rains so i am open for GOODYEAR tyres as well..

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me using nitrogen as well but I find the ride harder than air for some reason. using 29 for fronts and 28 for rear
oh thats really bad, i was betting very much on nitrogen fill + tubeless for comfortable ride... not that the existing ride is bad, its really good,

OT update, just got the front stabilizer bar installed at Green tracks here at bangalore , PALIO NV's 1.2 dont have it... man it really makes a difference. there was a slight bottoming out when sharp corners were taken at speeds, now that has disappeared completed & front holds tight & strong.. love the feel..

i have almost zeroed on YOKO's Aspec 300, if it is available in 175/65 R14, i am going for it... will be checking out this saturday all the tyres & then will decide

if i upgrade to R14+ tubeless, that will be an investment of around 25k, the ride better be comfortable & grippy...

thanks everybody for the replies, it really really helps..

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if you use nitrogen i suggest you use 28, it should be ok. also i am currently using 185 profile tyres and steering remains the same. i guess it depends on what type of tyres are used. maybe high grip ones will have more resistance
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