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Old 1st August 2008, 21:50   #331
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From what i've seen - stock tyres - Bridgestone S322 / Goodyear GPS2
I know that either B'stone S248s or G'year GPS2s come stock on the 1.1s; I guess, like you pointed out, it's either the GPS2s or S322s on the 1.6
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why don't you consider upsizing to 195/60 R14?
How much of a difference in FE would I experience if I upgraded to 195/60 R14?
If XM1s or A.drive's are available in 175/65 R14, I'd rather stick with the stock size.
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Stock tires in Palio are mostly Goodyear GPS2!

Michelin XM1 is available in 175/65 R14, but I would suggest you to upsize to 185/60 R14.
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Hey guys,

What tires (brand) come stock on the Palio 1.6 Stile Sport?

Are either XM1s or Yokohama A.drives available in 175/65 R14?

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From 14", michelin comes in XM1+.

Michelin XM1+ is available in 175/65 R14.

Ground clearance would be reduced little (I think 3mm) with 185/60 R14, increase little with 195/60 R14.

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Are XM1s or XM1+ available in 175/65 R14? What is the cost per piece?
What about A.drive's?

First off, is an upgrade avdisable? And secondly, what is the correct upgrade - 185/60 R14 or 195/60 R14?
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How much of a difference in FE would I experience if I upgraded to 195/60 R14?
If XM1s or A.drive's are available in 175/65 R14, I'd rather stick with the stock size.
Dude, i've just recently joined the Palio 1.6 club and can't really comment on the FE on upsizing - but from previous experience of upsizing on two other cars, i can safely say it will not be more than 5%. Anyways - the joy of driving a 1.6 with added grip overcomes the 5% Fe loss IMHO.
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Are XM1s or XM1+ available in 175/65 R14? What is the cost per piece?
What about A.drive's?

First off, is an upgrade avdisable? And secondly, what is the correct upgrade - 185/60 R14 or 195/60 R14?
This thread discuss the topic in detail.
The spreadsheet on the third post gives the right upsize for every model.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...-your-car.html (READ FIRST: Choosing The Right Set Of Tyres for your Car)

Tyre sizes available in Michelin website.
Michelin India - Energy XM1+
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LJ, XM1+ is available in 175/65 R14, check the Michelin link above to see the sizes available, for prices check with the local Michelin dealer:

The right upsize for Palio 1.6 are: 185/60 R14, 195/60 R14.

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The right upsize for Palio 1.6 are: 185/60 R14, 195/60 R14.
From the upsize chart, seems like the correct upsize is 185/65 R14 or 195/60 R14.

But since XM1+ is available in 175/65 R14, which is the stock size, is it then not advisable to stick with this size rather than going wider?

Any link to the Yokohama India site? I want to know if the A.drives are available in 175/65 R14, 185/65 R14 and 195/60 R14.
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xm1+ really isnt the grippiest tyre around especially after its done a few thousand kilometers so go with 185/60 R14 (which is the correct upsize, i think there is an error with the chart) check page 2 of the tyre bible for a proper upsize calculator

Car Bibles : The Wheel and Tyre Bible Page 1 of 2

as far as fe is concerned maybe there is a drop of ~1kmpl or less
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xm1+ really isnt the grippiest tyre around especially after its done a few thousand kilometers so go with 185/60 R14 (which is the correct upsize, i think there is an error with the chart) check page 2 of the tyre bible for a proper upsize calculator
How much did you pay for the XM1+ in 185/60 R14, and how much did your stock tires fetch ya'? Were they GPS2s? How soon after vehicle purchase did you get your tires exchanged?
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xm1+ really isnt the grippiest tyre around especially after its done a few thousand kilometers so go with 185/60 R14 (which is the correct upsize, i think there is an error with the chart) check page 2 of the tyre bible for a proper upsize calculator

Car Bibles : The Wheel and Tyre Bible Page 1 of 2

as far as fe is concerned maybe there is a drop of ~1kmpl or less
When you upsize, there will be some deviation from the stock diameter (Wheel + tyre) - 195/60R14 is closer to stock diameter than 185/60 or 185/65 ( I don't think this size is easily available).
There is a slight downside to 195 section tyres for the Palio 1.6. The stock alloy is 5.5J and the recommended wheel size for 195 section is 6J - mind you, it does work ok with a 5.5J rim - there are people on this forum running this setup.
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I am still confused. A few questions -
1. Is an upgrade to a wider tire recommended.
If NO, then -
a. Are Yokohama A.drives available in 175/65 R14?
b. If A.drives are available in this size, what is the approximate cost per piece and what is the cost of XM1+ in the same size.
If YES, then -
a. What is the most appropriate/recommended upgrade size : 185/60 R14 or 195/60 R14
b. Depending on the recommended upgrade size, are Yokohama A.drives available?
c. If A.drives are available in that size, what is the approximate cost per piece and what is the cost of XM1+ in the same size.
2. If I am to stick with the stock size of 175/65 R14 or upgrade to a wider tire, either way, I will be exchanging the stock OEM tires for either XM1+ or A.drives (if available) on day 1. How much would the stock tires fetch me?

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I am still confused. A few questions -
1. Is an upgrade to a wider tire recommended.
If NO, then -
a. Are Yokohama A.drives available in 175/65 R14?
b. If A.drives are available in this size, what is the approximate cost per piece and what is the cost of XM1+ in the same size.
If YES, then -
a. What is the most appropriate/recommended upgrade size : 185/60 R14 or 195/60 R14
b. Depending on the recommended upgrade size, are Yokohama A.drives available?
c. If A.drives are available in that size, what is the approximate cost per piece and what is the cost of XM1+ in the same size.
2. If I am to stick with the stock size of 175/65 R14 or upgrade to a wider tire, either way, I will be exchanging the stock OEM tires for either XM1+ or A.drives (if available) on day 1. How much would the stock tires fetch me?

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You can go for a wider tyre it would give you better road handling .
The recommended upsize for 175/65/14 is 185/60/14 , 185/65/14 , 195/60/14

Yokohama does have A drive available in 185/60/14 (AA01 ) , 185/65/14 (AA01 ) , 195/60/14 (AA01) .

Yoko's would cost you 3200/3250/3350 approximately.

Yoko's are available in 175/65/14 AA01 for around 3100.

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I am still confused. A few questions -
1. Is an upgrade to a wider tire recommended.
If NO, then -
a. Are Yokohama A.drives available in 175/65 R14?
b. If A.drives are available in this size, what is the approximate cost per piece and what is the cost of XM1+ in the same size.
If YES, then -
a. What is the most appropriate/recommended upgrade size : 185/60 R14 or 195/60 R14
b. Depending on the recommended upgrade size, are Yokohama A.drives available?
c. If A.drives are available in that size, what is the approximate cost per piece and what is the cost of XM1+ in the same size.
2. If I am to stick with the stock size of 175/65 R14 or upgrade to a wider tire, either way, I will be exchanging the stock OEM tires for either XM1+ or A.drives (if available) on day 1. How much would the stock tires fetch me?

Thanks
Here are my answers:

1. It is recommended if you're looking for more grip/performance. If your prime criteria is FE, don't bother.

a. Yes, they're available.
b. Should be around 3.5k give or take a few hundred rupees. XM1+'s should be a few hundred rupees more expensive than the Yoko's.

2. a. Both are good enough. 185/60 has an OD difference of (-)0.9% where as 195/60 has an OD difference of 1.1%.
b. Yes, available in both sizes.
c. 185/60 cost indicated above, 195/60 will be 200-300 rupees more expensive than it.

For what stock tyres will fetch you, best you check with your local dealer.
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Thanks Ishan.

If I wish to stick to the stock size of 175/65 R14, what brand should I exchange it for? Are the 175/65 R14 not as good on grip/performance?

If I wish to upgrade to 185/60 R14, what brand is recommended? With the 185/60 R14, how much of a drop in FE can I expect? Is it significant?

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