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Old 15th September 2008, 14:53   #406
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Which measurement is the 175 or 185 that you quote here? The 14" is the diameter of the wheel, right? I assume the 175 is the width of the tyres. Am I right?

Could you please also answer my question of the comparative effects on grip/mileage/turning radius/braking for the three tyres (stock, 13" alloys, 14" alloys)?

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185/65R14 or 175/70R14. If u have any plan to compromise on the ride quality, go for 195/55R15.
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i have a query since the spare wheel doesnt come with an alloy will the 185/60 R14 fit ? and what should the correct Tyre pressure be , i currently i keep 29 on the stock tyres on my 1.6 .

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Using 185/60 tyres and it fits fine on the spare rim. if you use 195 profile the tyre sticks out a bit and you might have trouble loading luggage
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Default Need Advice for Palio 1.2 ( R13 Tyres ) Replacement

Hi All,

After reding this thread, I kind of decided on following options. Please advice which one is better from your perspective / past experience.

I have Palio 1.2 2001 Model ( I think original model just after the launch may be in first 200 Palios sold in India ).

I am due to change it's all 4 tyres in next 1 month after 44K Estimated Running. I love the Palio the way it handles now performance wise but lately the ride quality has become rough & noisy. It's OEM S248 165/80/R13 tyres.

So My Expectation from new set of Tyres is
1) Maintain the same "Handling / Cornering / Braking / Steering Response AKA Performance as of now OR Very close to it. If it improves that's even better "

Also

2) Make the Ride quality more QUITE & Smooth compare to as of now.

3) Going for Tubeless Radial ( and hence S248 is out of question ).

In short I want to maintain "at least" same as point 1 BUT get Improvement on point 2 "Ride Quality" .

The Constraints I would like to keep is
i) Keep the same 13" Radious.
ii) Not looking for Alloys as It's late for that. ( Hmm some of thinking abt upsizing to Alloy 14" is still going in my mind but the financial numbers need clarity for this decision ).

Accordingly following options came out for me.

Option-A) Bridgstone Potenza G3 185/70/R13

Option-B) Michellin XM 185/70/R13.


Questions
1) How the generic upsizing to 185/70/R13 ( from 165/80/R13) will impact on my car in terms of points 1&2.

2) Which one from Option A or B

3) Do you suggest any other alternative for R13 tyre Tubeless Radial

4) IF I go for R14 Upsizing
4-a) The impact on Performace & Ride Quality ( I think performance will degrade a little due to higher CG but Ride will be much smoother due to reduction in ground noise )

4-b) What would be it's cost ( alloy wheels replacement .. second hand is fine too )

4-c) Is it worth it ? ( Please look this from my perspective parameters as given in my Signature )


Thanks in advance for your response.

*SZ*
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Hi All,

After reding this thread, I kind of decided on following options. Please advice which one is better from your perspective / past experience.

Hmm Seems like our Palio Fans lost thier interest or busy in Driving

I have another question

5) For Tubeless tyre, Alloy Wheel is necessary ? or we can do with our OEM Wheel ( The Article on Team-BHP says you can but Safety may compromise a little. )
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Hi,

I have a Palio Stile 1.1 SLX running stock tyres 165/80 R13. Which is the correct upsize?

Michelin Energy XM1+ 185/60R14
or
Michelin Energy XM1+ 185/65R14

I am planning to fit Aura E01455 14'' 98 PCD alloys.

Thanks!
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I have a Palio Stile 1.1 SLX running stock tyres 165/80 R13. Which is the correct upsize?
Ajay, for Palio Stile 1.1, the correct upsize would be: 185/65 R14.
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Hi All,

After reding this thread, I kind of decided on following options. Please advice which one is better from your perspective / past experience.

I have Palio 1.2 2001 Model ( I think original model just after the launch may be in first 200 Palios sold in India ).

I am due to change it's all 4 tyres in next 1 month after 44K Estimated Running. I love the Palio the way it handles now performance wise but lately the ride quality has become rough & noisy. It's OEM S248 165/80/R13 tyres.

So My Expectation from new set of Tyres is
1) Maintain the same "Handling / Cornering / Braking / Steering Response AKA Performance as of now OR Very close to it. If it improves that's even better "

Also

2) Make the Ride quality more QUITE & Smooth compare to as of now.

3) Going for Tubeless Radial ( and hence S248 is out of question ).

In short I want to maintain "at least" same as point 1 BUT get Improvement on point 2 "Ride Quality" .

The Constraints I would like to keep is
i) Keep the same 13" Radious.
ii) Not looking for Alloys as It's late for that. ( Hmm some of thinking abt upsizing to Alloy 14" is still going in my mind but the financial numbers need clarity for this decision ).

Accordingly following options came out for me.

Option-A) Bridgstone Potenza G3 185/70/R13

Option-B) Michellin XM 185/70/R13.


Questions
1) How the generic upsizing to 185/70/R13 ( from 165/80/R13) will impact on my car in terms of points 1&2.

2) Which one from Option A or B

3) Do you suggest any other alternative for R13 tyre Tubeless Radial

4) IF I go for R14 Upsizing
4-a) The impact on Performace & Ride Quality ( I think performance will degrade a little due to higher CG but Ride will be much smoother due to reduction in ground noise )

4-b) What would be it's cost ( alloy wheels replacement .. second hand is fine too )

4-c) Is it worth it ? ( Please look this from my perspective parameters as given in my Signature )


Thanks in advance for your response.

*SZ*
To answer your questions, maintaining the same size as stock would give you the same ride quality. Upgrading (wider tyres) just the tyres would probably improve the ride quality but upsizing (larger dia) would change the ride quality depending on you choice of size.

If just upgrading then you can go ahead and do it, with broader tyres it improves the handling and braking and your ride quality will remain the same or improve.

If upsizing then if you choose 14" rims then with lager dia you get improved handling and cornering but your ride quality might suffer a little bit or remain the same. With 14", I don' think 185/70 would be the correct size as it might brush the wheel wells on full load. The correct size being 185/65 or 185/60, the former giving better ride of the two.

The new alloys cost in the range of 4k-6k per wheel, don't know about used ones.
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Ajay, for Palio Stile 1.1, the correct upsize would be: 185/65 R14.
Thanks Finney, I have upsized

Alloys: Aura 98 PCD set of 5: Rs. 19,500
Tyres: Michelin Energy XM1+ 185/65 R14: Rs. 3,450 per tyre
Dealer: Super Tyre Tec, JC Rd, Bangalore.
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Accordingly following options came out for me.

Option-A) Bridgstone Potenza G3 185/70/R13

Option-B) Michellin XM 185/70/R13.


Questions
1) How the generic upsizing to 185/70/R13 ( from 165/80/R13) will impact on my car in terms of points 1&2.

2) Which one from Option A or B

3) Do you suggest any other alternative for R13 tyre Tubeless Radial

4) IF I go for R14 Upsizing
4-a) The impact on Performace & Ride Quality ( I think performance will degrade a little due to higher CG but Ride will be much smoother due to reduction in ground noise )

4-b) What would be it's cost ( alloy wheels replacement .. second hand is fine too )

4-c) Is it worth it ? ( Please look this from my perspective parameters as given in my Signature )


Thanks in advance for your response.

*SZ*
No use doing any upgrades on the 1.2, It does really well on the stock sized tyres so stay with that. Going to 14inch wheels affects the ride quality (bad) and wider tyres might make the steering harder.

Just look to get new tyres of the same size 165/80 R13 , so far I think thats the perfect size for a palio.

Currently using goodyear gps2 for fronts and bridgestone something or the other for rear and rides pretty good with hardly any noise

either goodyears or michelins should work fine for you
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I have upsized
Congrats Ajay! Am sure you'll be enjoying the comfy ride on Michelin XM1+!

Can we have some pics?
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Congrats Ajay! Am sure you'll be enjoying the comfy ride on Michelin XM1+!

Can we have some pics?
Yes indeed, the new tyres are very silent and I believe the braking distance has also reduced. Some pics.
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Good looking alloys...

I have 205 50 R15 Yokohama tyres for my S10, ride quality is little bumpy, but handling is great. Break feel more trust worthy
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I put Michelin XM1+ 175/70R13 tubeless in my 2001 Palio 1.2 ELX. And the changes are so noticable that I can not imagin. Earlier one was stock Bridgston R13 tubed. Road noise reduced to 90% and the best part is the lighter steering. I thought steering wheel will become more heavier due to broader tyre but it was totally opposite.
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Pawan, Enjoy your Palio on Michelin XM1+!

Ajayr, Aura alloys look very nice! Congrats!
Nice to see a new design in 98 PCD!
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