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Old 28th October 2008, 01:20   #421
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I put Michelin XM1+ 175/70R13 tubeless in my 2001 Palio 1.2 ELX. And the changes are so noticable that I can not imagin. Earlier one was stock Bridgston R13 tubed. Road noise reduced to 90% and the best part is the lighter steering. I thought steering wheel will become more heavier due to broader tyre but it was totally opposite.
Zaks & Bottle Thx for your reply.

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Michellin 185/70 R13 for quiter ride. I am sure it will have decent "cornering/braking" parameters even compare with Potenza G3. Allthough somehow G3-Potenza is still looking for my attention

@Pawan - So you put Michelin XM1+ 175/70 R R13 ?? - Please confirm. I have seen 185/70 R13 combo but not 175/70 .. not sure abt it's availability.

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I put Michelin XM1+ 175/70R13 tubeless in my 2001 Palio 1.2 ELX. And the changes are so noticable that I can not imagin. Earlier one was stock Bridgston R13 tubed. Road noise reduced to 90% and the best part is the lighter steering. I thought steering wheel will become more heavier due to broader tyre but it was totally opposite.
XM1 or XM1+? Coz, I am not aware of XM1+ in 14".

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Zaks & Bottle Thx for your reply.
I think I am leaning towards
Michellin 185/70 R13 for quiter ride. I am sure it will have decent "cornering/braking" parameters even compare with Potenza G3. Allthough somehow G3-Potenza is still looking for my attention

@Pawan - So you put Michelin XM1+ 175/70 R R13 ?? - Please confirm. I have seen 185/70 R13 combo but not 175/70 .. not sure abt it's availability.
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Michelin is a decent choice. There are 185/70R13 and 175/70R13 available in XM1 range.
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Old 2nd February 2009, 11:31   #423
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Hello friends !

I have done some shopping for my palio on sunday. I bought a set of 5 alloys of Neo Wheels 14" from SaiBaba Tyres near wilson garden.

I got the 5 wheels for 10,000rs. One of those was slightly scratched which i m using as spare. It was a good bargain I believe. I also changed the tyres from myy present 165/80/R13 to 165/80/R14 ... I got the set of 5 new tyres (JKTyres) ..(removed from a new swift dzire on saturday) for 6K . I got the 100PCD altered to 98PCD and mounted.

Now I am running on 165/80/R14 with new alloys and obeserved a few changes:

1. The steering now feels heavier than early. I dont know the reason but i am not liking it to be heavy ! what might be the reason ? and what should i do to get rid of it ??

2. I think my speedo readin is now taken for a toss.. my trip meter isnt working like usual .. Is there anything i can do for this??

3. Since these Tyres are brand new ... run only 60kms, shall I upsize to 185/65/R14 used in good condition and exchange these for a different set??

Lastly... what change in mileage and handling will i experience with the current setup? good or bad? how can i make it better?

plzz help me with making the setup a better one !! m definately feelin the steering a lil heavy !!
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@ kri$hna, your two decisions regarding the tyre upsize and altering the PCD of the alloys are detrimental to your car.

The right upsize for your car in 14" would be
175/65 R14
185/65 R14
185/60 R14
195/60 R14

Upsizing to any of these will keep the overall diameter of the wheels within acceptable limits. Your current upsize of 165/80 R14 has increased the diameter from 23.4 in to 24.4 in, thereby affecting your speedo and odo. Your speedo at present is 4.3% slower than the actual speed. The OD difference should not exceed 3%, whereas in your case it is 4.11%. See it for yourself here
Tire Size Calculator - tire & wheel plus sizing

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...alculator.html (Tire size and Speedo error calculator)

There are plenty of threads on the forum regarding the right upsize. Get the tyres replaced ASAP and while you are at it, junk the JK rubber and get something better.

As for the PCD alterations, dont have a personal experience but from threads on the forum, this procedure should be avoided. You should have bought the stock 98 PCD Fiat alloys instead. There a few designs in Aura as well, but the stock GTX/Stile/S10 (if available) would have been ideal.

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@ kri$hna, your two decisions regarding the tyre upsize and altering the PCD of the alloys are detrimental to your car.

The right upsize for your car in 14" would be
175/65 R14
185/65 R14
185/60 R14
195/60 R14

Upsizing to any of these will keep the overall diameter of the wheels within acceptable limits. Your current upsize of 165/80 R14 has increased the diameter from 23.4 in to 24.4 in, thereby affecting your speedo and odo. Your speedo at present is 4.3% slower than the actual speed. The OD difference should not exceed 3%, whereas in your case it is 4.11%. See it for yourself here
Tire Size Calculator - tire & wheel plus sizing

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...alculator.html (Tire size and Speedo error calculator)

There are plenty of threads on the forum regarding the right upsize. Get the tyres replaced ASAP and while you are at it, junk the JK rubber and get something better.

As for the PCD alterations, dont have a personal experience but from threads on the forum, this procedure should be avoided. You should have bought the stock 98 PCD Fiat alloys instead. There a few designs in Aura as well, but the stock GTX/Stile/S10 (if available) would have been ideal.

Thanks for your advice buddy !!
I have upsized the tyres to Yokohama A drive -- and i paid a total of 16K for a set of 5 .. 1200 for balancing/allignment ..500 for painting the hubs and calipers
The complete upgrade from my old steel rims/tyres to NEO 14" alloys/Yokohama A drive tyres ( 185/65 R14 x5) has costed me arnd 27500

Is this a good deal or have I been cheated ?? Not sure yet but i feel i paid less for alloys and may be more for tyres
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Thanks for your advice buddy !!
I have upsized the tyres to Yokohama A drive -- and i paid a total of 16K for a set of 5 .. 1200 for balancing/allignment ..500 for painting the hubs and calipers
The complete upgrade from my old steel rims/tyres to NEO 14" alloys/Yokohama A drive tyres ( 185/65 R14 x5) has costed me arnd 27500

Is this a good deal or have I been cheated ?? Not sure yet but i feel i paid less for alloys and may be more for tyres
You are welcome. Good choice of size and tyres this time and even the price paid is perfectly fine. You've paid 3.2/tyre which is more or less what the A-drives cost in that size. Give us a feedback on the changes you feel after the upgrade.
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Thanks for your advice buddy !!
I have upsized the tyres to Yokohama A drive -- and i paid a total of 16K for a set of 5 .. 1200 for balancing/allignment ..500 for painting the hubs and calipers
The complete upgrade from my old steel rims/tyres to NEO 14" alloys/Yokohama A drive tyres ( 185/65 R14 x5) has costed me arnd 27500

Is this a good deal or have I been cheated ?? Not sure yet but i feel i paid less for alloys and may be more for tyres
Congrats Krishna!!

1200 for Balancing/Alignment ???
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Congrats Krishna!!

1200 for Balancing/Alignment ???
yea ... it was done twice !! once with JK Tyres and once with Yokos..

BreakUp:

10K for set of 5 alloys (NEO) 14"
16K for set of 5 Yoko A drives 185/65 R14
2k for alignment,balancing twice and painting (hubs/calipers)
gt 1200 for my old tube tyres and rims!!
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Update :
I have been to Ambur with my frnds .. 5 of us, had a good high speed run on the GQ and did abt 145 top speed ( speedo indicated) !! Amazing road manners now with these tyres, very low road noise above 100kmph

The only hitch i found... the tyres touch the body at jumps on uneven roads, may be becoz the car was fully loaded with 5 ppl, Gas and Petrol Tank Full to the brim .. will there be any problem with this ?? should i do anything to get it fixed ??
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Anyone using 15" wheel on palio without a detrimental effect?
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Anyone using 15" wheel on palio without a detrimental effect?
I dont think thats a good choice.. I am using 14" wheels with 185/65, and still it sometimes touches the body on full load + good Speed + uneven roads/bumps !! so i think 15 inchers will be stretching it a bit too far

i am thinking of adding spacers at the rear to increase the gap.. I am not yet sure about it though.. i would not advice 15"wheels on a palio !
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I dont think thats a good choice.. I am using 14" wheels with 185/65, and still it sometimes touches the body on full load + good Speed + uneven roads/bumps !! so i think 15 inchers will be stretching it a bit too far

i am thinking of adding spacers at the rear to increase the gap.. I am not yet sure about it though.. i would not advice 15"wheels on a palio !
I shifted from 5.5 X R 14" alloys to 6 X 15" alloys. The tyre size (stock) used to be 175/55 R 14s. I changed it to 195/55 R15. The circumference increased by about 2.13%, on the other hand using 185/65 R 14 will increase the circumference by 2.23% i.e. the 15" tyres are bigger than the 15" tyres. If you increase the wheel size, you have to reduce the tyre size by going in for a lower profile.

Please be careful when buying alloys. The PCD for Fiats is 98, some shopkeepers will sell you 100 PCD wheels and literally force them onto the car this is not good. Some people recommend using spacers/PCD converters but, these throw up their own set of problems. A few designs are available from Aura and Neo in stock sizes (14" for Palio and 15" for Linea).

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did u check out the new apollo rims? are they any good? will they fit a palio?
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did u check out the new apollo rims? are they any good? will they fit a palio?
I have not checked them out, I am not even sure that they make 98 PCD wheels.

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Anyone running 195/60-14 Yoko S Drives on their Palio 1.6? Feedback & costing appreciated. Time for changing tyres on my Palio
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