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Old 16th June 2011, 08:48   #526
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^^ nice explanations Buffetfan. Thanks.

Now, which brand and make is the Silent-most (makes the least road noise) in 185/65/R14 ?
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^^ nice explanations Buffetfan. Thanks.

Now, which brand and make is the Silent-most (makes the least road noise) in 185/65/R14 ?
Yokohama C drives are the most silent ones you can get in that size
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^^ nice explanations Buffetfan. Thanks.

Now, which brand and make is the Silent-most (makes the least road noise) in 185/65/R14 ?
I would choose between Michelin Energy Xm1+ and Yokohama C.Drive. Yoko has a slightly better grip and ride. Michelins have slightly tougher sidewalls and will probably take abuse better. I have tried both in my Baleno and currently use the C.Drive in my Baleno (185/65R14) and Innova (225/60R15).

I suggest you have a look and see which one you like. The overall construction of Michelin feels a bit better to me.

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Yokohama C. Drive




Michelin Energy Xm1+
Michelin Energy Xm1+

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I checked with a tyre dealer yesterday. This is what he said:

1) Do not go for 185/70 because the tyre would scrape my wheel well when turning hard or over bumps. Can anyone here tell me whether this is true? I have heard various opinions that 185/70 can be used without problems but I really need a bullet proof opinion from someone who has used this tyre size on the Palio MJD for a while in various conditions.

2) I can go for the 175/70 but this tyre is physically smaller than my stock tyres so I would assume I would get some speedometer error. Is this marginal or quite significant? The tyre diameter is smaller by a noticeable margin.

3) His recommendation was that I stick to the 165/80 because it has a bigger air column which in his opinion, is necessary for a Palio because its a heavier car. His opinion is that the 175/70 and 185/70 will have smaller sidewalls and thus a bumpier ride.

Could anyone please confirm these three things and suggest which tyre size I should go for?

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I checked with a tyre dealer yesterday. This is what he said:

1) Do not go for 185/70 because the tyre would scrape my wheel well when turning hard or over bumps. Can anyone here tell me whether this is true? I have heard various opinions that 185/70 can be used without problems but I really need a bullet proof opinion from someone who has used this tyre size on the Palio MJD for a while in various conditions.

2) I can go for the 175/70 but this tyre is physically smaller than my stock tyres so I would assume I would get some speedometer error. Is this marginal or quite significant? The tyre diameter is smaller by a noticeable margin.

3) His recommendation was that I stick to the 165/80 because it has a bigger air column which in his opinion, is necessary for a Palio because its a heavier car. His opinion is that the 175/70 and 185/70 will have smaller sidewalls and thus a bumpier ride.

Could anyone please confirm these three things and suggest which tyre size I should go for?

Thanks,
-Ganesh
Ganesh,
you have not mentioned whether you are sticking to your 13" stock rims or upgrading. The sizes you describe tells me it's probable the stock rim.
Please visit this link:
Car Bibles : The Wheel and Tyre Bible Page 3 of 4
The permissible limits to under/over size are also provided here. I have gotten away with a 12mm (1/2") increase in diameter on my stile. Refer previous posts on this thread.
Let me know if you need more help!
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I checked with a tyre dealer yesterday. This is what he said:

1) Do not go for 185/70 because the tyre would scrape my wheel well when turning hard or over bumps. Can anyone here tell me whether this is true? I have heard various opinions that 185/70 can be used without problems but I really need a bullet proof opinion from someone who has used this tyre size on the Palio MJD for a while in various conditions.
i think it is incorrect based on what I saw for my friend. Also see another person with 185/70 - pls PM him and find out http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post2146044 (Graduating from 37 Bhp to 75 Bhp- Fiat Palio Stile MJD)

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2) I can go for the 175/70 but this tyre is physically smaller than my stock tyres so I would assume I would get some speedometer error. Is this marginal or quite significant? The tyre diameter is smaller by a noticeable margin.
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3) His recommendation was that I stick to the 165/80 because it has a bigger air column which in his opinion, is necessary for a Palio because its a heavier car. His opinion is that the 175/70 and 185/70 will have smaller sidewalls and thus a bumpier ride.
185/70 will have a sidewall of 129.5 mm versus 132 mm for 165/80. So no significant difference in sidewall. A wider tyre will of course have a slightly (and I mean slightly) bumpier ride as it picks up more irregularities from the road. Most of these effects can be nullified by choosing a ride comfort biased tire. Go in for a regular size if you are a very sedate driver. I am not and I always upsize. Whether to 185/65R14 in the Baleno from 165/80R13, to 165/65R13 in the Santro from 155/70R13 and to 225/60R15 in the Innova from 205/65R15

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Hi,

Thanks a lot, all for the tips.

Some of my questions remain unanswered though.

1) Is there anyone here who has a Palio MJD with 185/70 R13 tyres and have they had any problems so far?

2) Will the Michelin XM1 185/70 R13 be quieter and more comfortable than my stock Goodyear GPS2 165/80 R13? I've now driven 45,000 KM and there is still noticeable tread left on the tyres.

3) Will there be a drastic effect on my fuel economy?

Thanks a bunch, all you guys.

-Ganesh
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Hi,

Thanks a lot, all for the tips.

Some of my questions remain unanswered though.

1) Is there anyone here who has a Palio MJD with 185/70 R13 tyres and have they had any problems so far?
You have the link I have given in the post below http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post2146044 (Graduating from 37 Bhp to 75 Bhp- Fiat Palio Stile MJD) - pls PM and ask
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2) Will the Michelin XM1 185/70 R13 be quieter and more comfortable than my stock Goodyear GPS2 165/80 R13? I've now driven 45,000 KM and there is still noticeable tread left on the tyres.
Yes in my view

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3) Will there be a drastic effect on my fuel economy?
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I own a Palio 1.9 D, current stock is 185/65/R14. The tires are in its last stage and will need a replacement soon. Wanted to know if anyone is aware of retreading in Bangalore and is it recommended? Will be happy to take this option. thanks for the advice.
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Retreading is NOT recommended! Why do you want to take risk?

Stock tyre size for OE Alloys - 175-65-14. try to get tyres of the same size in Tubetype / Tubeless.
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Hi,

Thanks a lot, all for the tips.

Some of my questions remain unanswered though.

1) Is there anyone here who has a Palio MJD with 185/70 R13 tyres and have they had any problems so far?

2) Will the Michelin XM1 185/70 R13 be quieter and more comfortable than my stock Goodyear GPS2 165/80 R13? I've now driven 45,000 KM and there is still noticeable tread left on the tyres.

3) Will there be a drastic effect on my fuel economy?

Thanks a bunch, all you guys.

-Ganesh
Yeah i have been using 185/70 R13 Michelin XM1 tyres for last 43K Kms. They will last 4-5K more. I don't think it will have any noticeable effect on the fuel efficiency.
I have no issues but they are worn out now...
I am planning to migrate to XM1+ shortly

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Hello Gurus,
I have Fiat Petra 1.6 ELX and is time for me to change the tires (and rims, since current Rims bent in many places). Thought of getting the best opinion here before changing.

Currently my Tire Size is: 175/65/R14.

Is it possible for me to go for slightly bigger size tire, so that I can increase the Vehicle Clearance? Whats the Upgrade size of Tire and rim I have to use. Appreciate your help.

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Rai, for better ride stick to 14" rims & get 185/60 R14 tyres.
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@Rai:
If your stock tyre size is 175/65R14, and you want to upgrade to 15" wheels, your only choice in India is to buy tyres of size 195/55R15. This will give you about 2-3mm more ground clearance.
It is not a common size though, and you don't have too much choice in terms of tyre brand/model.
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Please help. I know very little about tyres
Car Palio1.2 ELX pre-nv
current tyres: 195/55R15 eagle nct tubeless

front tyre got burst by hitting a pot hole (mulund flyover). changed to spare wheel on the service road itself. the opening is on side wall and is very small. local tyrewala suggested using tube as I don't want to change all tyres now. some tread still left in all four.
currently using 165/80R13 tubetyre spare wheel.

Please advise

1) is it advisable to use tube in tubeless tyre? (it would save me a lot of money, except loosing the peace of mind of having a tubeless tyre) I'll be changing all tyres after 5000 KM or 6 months, whichever is earlier

2)if new tyres,I would like to go for tata manza's tyres 185/60R15 (or 185/65or70 R15, if available). better average and ride.
which tubeless tyres ( model, brand and mumbai cost please, cheaper the better) will be silent most and long lasting as well. Don't care about the grip much (no offense).

I can post the photo of the damaged tyre.
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