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Old 15th July 2011, 11:29   #541
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front tyre got burst by hitting a pot hole (mulund flyover). changed to spare wheel on the service road itself. the opening is on side wall and is very small. local tyrewala suggested using tube as I don't want to change all tyres now. some tread still left in all four.
currently using 165/80R13 tubetyre spare wheel..
the alloy wheel / tyres (195-55-15) in the front / put the spare wheel (165-80-13) in the rear.

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1) is it advisable to use tube in tubeless tyre? (it would save me a lot of money, except loosing the peace of mind of having a tubeless tyre) I'll be changing all tyres after 5000 KM or 6 months, whichever is earlier.
Safety issue - buy an used 195-55-15 from the tyre dealer and use it as a stop-gap arrangement.

Tube in Tube-type can be used only if you are stuck in a bad situation when two tyres are flat. and it is not safe in the long run.

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2)if new tyres,I would like to go for tata manza's tyres 185/60R15 (or 185/65or70 R15, if available). better average and ride.
which tubeless tyres ( model, brand and mumbai cost please, cheaper the better) will be silent most and long lasting as well. Don't care about the grip much (no offense)..
for 15inch and palio upsize - 195-55-15 suits perfect on 6J alloys (which i guess you are running on) - the other sizes may affect the handling.

you may try GoodYear GT3, NCT5, Michelins XM1+, Yoko A-drives if available in that size.

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I can post the photo of the damaged tyre.
that will be great.

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Old 24th July 2011, 19:04   #542
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I got new shoes for my car after 3 years on the stock brodgestone. I went one size higher and got 185x65 michellin energy xm1+, they come with 3year warranty. Got new alloys, now my ride has become super silent and the car just glides
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@Rai,

upgrading to 185/65/R14 will increase the GC by 4mm. IMHO 185/60/R14 is a wrong upgrade . Lot of people in TBHP including me are using 185/65/R14 n palios/petras. It is tried and tested. Just go with it and you will never regret your decision

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Hi,

I am currently running my palio stile 1.3 SDX on the stock size of 165/80 R13 with 13" alloys. I am looking for changing the tires in the next couple of weeks.

I called few shops in Bangalore to get the quote for michelin,bridgestone, Yokohama and cooper. there is lot of variation in the price being quoted from 4000 to 3100.

All of them informed to upgrade (if i can call it that) form the stock 165/80 to 175/70 or 185/70 R13.

Now i am confused whether to go for 175/70 or 185/70 in R13. Also i believe that as i have 13" alloys, i cannot go for any tires in R14.

Any suggestions on whether to go for 175/70 or 185/70 would be appreciated.

Cheers
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@Rai,

upgrading to 185/65/R14 will increase the GC by 4mm. IMHO 185/60/R14 is a wrong upgrade . Lot of people in TBHP including me are using 185/65/R14 n palios/petras. It is tried and tested. Just go with it and you will never regret your decision

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Ravi,

Just a correction, upgrading from stock 175/65/14 to 185/60/14 is the right upsize where the difference in Circumference is -0.94% while when you upgrade to 185/65/14, the difference goes to 2.23%, that means when your speedo reads 70mph, you're actually travelling at 71.56mph. Hence this is technically not the right upsize for our Palio!

There are pros and cons over both the 60 and 65 profile. On 185/65 it will give your comfort but might lose is handling during sharp cornering while on 185/60, it would be a bit of harsh ride but excellent on ride handling and cornering!

BTW I've upgraded to Yokohama C Drives 185/65/14 recently
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Ravi,

Just a correction, upgrading from stock 175/65/14 to 185/60/14 is the right upsize where the difference in Circumference is -0.94% while when you upgrade to 185/65/14, the difference goes to 2.23%, that means when your speedo reads 70mph, you're actually travelling at 71.56mph. Hence this is technically not the right upsize for our Palio!

There are pros and cons over both the 60 and 65 profile. On 185/65 it will give your comfort but might lose is handling during sharp cornering while on 185/60, it would be a bit of harsh ride but excellent on ride handling and cornering!

BTW I've upgraded to Yokohama C Drives 185/65/14 recently
Thanks Rudrah for the explanation. Did get my notes wrong there

How much did it cost you the new set of tires. Am planning to visit shop today to check and replace my Micheline XM1 set as they almost completed 40K kms now.

Do you suggest any good shop in South Bangalore where I can get the best price
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Thanks Rudrah for the explanation. Did get my notes wrong there

How much did it cost you the new set of tires. Am planning to visit shop today to check and replace my Micheline XM1 set as they almost completed 40K kms now.

Do you suggest any good shop in South Bangalore where I can get the best price
Welcome, Ravi

Yoko C drives in 185/65 cost me Rs 4250 each for set of 4.

BTW i'm based in Navi Mumbai so no idea about Banglore but i guess if you search in this thread, you will get information about Bangalore tyre dealers!

Good Luck!
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Hi,

I am currently running my palio stile 1.3 SDX on the stock size of 165/80 R13 with 13" alloys. I am looking for changing the tires in the next couple of weeks.

I called few shops in Bangalore to get the quote for michelin,bridgestone, Yokohama and cooper. there is lot of variation in the price being quoted from 4000 to 3100.

All of them informed to upgrade (if i can call it that) form the stock 165/80 to 175/70 or 185/70 R13.

Now i am confused whether to go for 175/70 or 185/70 in R13. Also i believe that as i have 13" alloys, i cannot go for any tires in R14.

Any suggestions on whether to go for 175/70 or 185/70 would be appreciated.

Cheers
Vasanth
Right upsize is 185/70R13. In case if you want to ge 14" rims / alloys you can try 175/70R14 or 185/65R14 (My choice) or 195/60R14

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Hello friends,

I'm sure you're all bored of the same question over and over again so I'll try to lessen the hurt by being concise:
  • I have a Palio Stile MJD running on stock Goodyear 165/80 R13 tyres. I've now run about 51,000 KM on them and the thread is now visibly thinning out.
  • I want to buy tyres that will give me a bit more confidence while taking corners and
  • I also want tyres which will be quiet.
  • It is important that the tyres last at least 30 to 40,000 KM.
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1) I want to buy 185/70 R13 tyres. Will this cause any noticeable change in my fuel efficiency or my steering feel?

2) I checked all dealers in Pune and no one has Yokohama C-drives of that specification. They said Yoko doesn't make them in this size. Is this true? If yes, then will the Yoko C-drive 185/65 R13 be a good choice?

3) What is the main difference between Yoko A-drive and C-drives? Do the A-drives make any sense given my requirements?

4) I was keen to buy the Michelin Energy XM1+ but they are very expensive here in Pune. Rs 4700 per tyre. Has anyone found a cheaper quote for these tyres in Pune or Mumbai? Please let me know.

5) Between all the tyres mentioned in the 4 points above, which tyre would YOU suggest and why?
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1) I want to buy 185/70 R13 tyres. Will this cause any noticeable change in my fuel efficiency or my steering feel?
FE may drop marginally although it would also depend on the tread pattern of the model you choose versus the original tyre. When I shifted to 195/70/14 from OE 175/80/14 in my Adventure, the FE improved marginally since the OE Pirelli tyres were cross country type that resulted in higher friction on the road. There was no change in the steering feel in my case.


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2) I checked all dealers in Pune and no one has Yokohama C-drives of that specification. They said Yoko doesn't make them in this size. Is this true? If yes, then will the Yoko C-drive 185/65 R13 be a good choice?
Don't go in for 185/65/13. That's a wrong upsize. The lower profile will reduce comfort due to lesser cushioning effect. Compared to 165/80/13, even 185/70/13 has lower circumference but the difference is insignificant.

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3) What is the main difference between Yoko A-drive and C-drives? Do the A-drives make any sense given my requirements?

4) I was keen to buy the Michelin Energy XM1+ but they are very expensive here in Pune. Rs 4700 per tyre. Has anyone found a cheaper quote for these tyres in Pune or Mumbai? Please let me know.

5) Between all the tyres mentioned in the 4 points above, which tyre would YOU suggest and why?
Why don't you consider Bridgestone? They are made right here in India and are tougher than Yokos which are imported as of now. I'm using Bridgestone Potenza 195/70/14 on my Adventure and haven't had a single puncture in 40,000 KMs!

Irrespective of the brand, when you shift to 185/70/13, you'll get better road grip, better braking and insignificant drop in FE, if at all.

Best of luck!
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Thanks a lot for the answers.

Some of my questions remain unanswered though

1) What is the difference between Yoko A-drive and C-drive?
2) Given my requirements, would A-drive be a suitable tyre for me?
3) What is the best rate for Michelin Energy XM+ that you are getting?
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What options are available in stock size for Palio Stile MJD? (165/80 R13)?

Good year dealer says that this size is not available anymore!

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Yoko C drives in 185/65 cost me Rs 4250 each for set of 4.

BTW i'm based in Navi Mumbai so no idea about Banglore but i guess if you search in this thread, you will get information about Bangalore tyre dealers!

Good Luck!
Thanks for the response. Was in and out of city for a while after upgrading my babe with new shoes.

Have put Michelin 185/65/R14 @ Rs. 4450 during second week of October. My old tires were completely gone and got only 500/- for selling them.

The wheel alignment & Balancing was free(including in the above cost)

Couple of Alloys had developed bend in them and got it repaired for Rs.1200

Finally, Camber setting had to be done and cost me another Rs.1000

Totally, had to shell out Rs.20000 for the upgrade.

Am happy since the steering feels a lot smoother after camber adjustment was done and car has become very silent again
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One of my Palio 1.2 tyre was worn out so got it replaced a couple of days back with 165 80 R13 S248. Cost me Rs 4200 for the tyre.

I have prepared an excel worksheet just to see what impact the different tyre configurations may have on Ground clearance, mileage etc just by factoring the change of tyre diameter.
I've not factored the other parameters like increase in surface contact/friction due to larger contact area in wider tyres.
I've attached the same.

I still feel like sticking to OEM 165 80 13 tyres for the ride comfort it offers.
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