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Old 7th September 2009, 10:00   #91
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Nope. Smallest size available in India is 195/60 R!4.
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Old 29th October 2009, 13:29   #92
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Ok. Having driven ROC's car with Ad07s, I have to mention a few things.

I initially thought he was out of his mind for this.

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The steering also feels a bit livelier and the car feels more chuckable. Surprisingly, I have a funny feeling that the car also feels much more responsive than when it was shod with PP2s. It seems to pull much more easily now.
But now, I have the same feeling! The steering really does feel lighter than it did with the PP2s. Very wierd. I'm unable to explain why this is so.

Also, it really does seem to pull faster and the engine seems livelier. Also, I'm comparing it with the stock Cedia Sports I had TD'en.

The steering is much lighter on ROC's car after the tyre change and frankly, I prefered the slightly heavier steering he had earlier with the PP2s. Also, it was lighter than the stock Cedia sports which had 195/60R15 RE88s. I think this is due to the fact that the Cedia Sports I tested had the Momo steering wheel which make the steering feel heavier.

The surprising part is, the engine feels much more rev happy with the AD07s. And ROC says he hasnt even given the car for service, so chances of fresher engine oil, etc can be ruled out. I'm very surprised and would be glad if someone can give reasons as to why this is happening.

One simple thing I can think of is that some characteristics of the AD07s were overhyped earlier.
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Old 13th January 2010, 13:03   #93
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I'd like to know what one can finally expect from the YOKOHAMA AD07 compared to the competition in terms of:
1. Handling
2. Noise
3. Comfort/ride.
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Old 13th January 2010, 21:08   #94
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1). AD07s are the BEST.
2). They are quite noisy when you are above 100kmph, but it's not too much IMHO. You can always play music in your car to drown out the noise.

3). Decent. Not too bad.
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Old 8th February 2010, 13:24   #95
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On a sidenote, for the price we paid for this, even if they last 20k kms, it is worth it!
So, the car has done close to 20k kms now. The tyres look like new. It should easily last another 10k.

Whoever said AD07s dont last for more than 20k was talking through his After Sales Service .

for Indian conditions, where our average speed is very low, these tyres can last upto 40k if you dont drive like a maniac!
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but us normal folks are not born again rally drivers and maybe not drive as well as you :P
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Old 8th February 2010, 16:00   #97
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What are you doing online? I thought you spend most of your day at the Fiat service centre asking your thambi to fix your car. You got Wi-fi there?
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Old 9th February 2010, 14:29   #98
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Congratulations Nikhil. Like I was mentioning to you before these tires will slow you down incredibly. So better get going on the engine front if you want to see what these tires are capable off. If you get bored of them, you know whom to approach to get rid of these tires .
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No use on the stock engine. Too much drag and fuel efficiency will also go for a toss.
Just going through some old posts of mine and I realised that I never faced any of the "drawbacks" of using the AD07s.

We get a mileage of 11+ in the city. Dad even got 16.xx about two weeks ago when he went to Tirupati.

We've got a WORST mileage of 10 exact which was last weekend when I took the car to Yelagiri. 4th gear all the way on the GQ and 1st and 2nd gear madness all the way up the mountain and back again.

We havent found any performance loss either. In fact, we've felt that the car feels faster. Maybe it's because we have the confidence to push faster with these tyres.

I'm absolutely IN LOVE with these tyres. If not for the price, they are absolutely perfect for the typical enthusiast.

Advantages:

1). Grip while cornering
2). Grip while braking
3). Grip while doing anything
4). Not noisy. People may disagree, but at normal highway cruising speeds of 80-110, no noise at all. Maybe the fact that it's a Honda also helps. Better sound insulation.
5). Quite comfortable as well. Not like the rock hard ride quality I expected. Again, could be because of the soft Honda suspension too.
6). Lasts longer than most people's predictions. Has done 20,000 kms and looks really good.


Disadvantages":

1). Price.

I really cant think of any more drawbacks.

This tyre is quite simply the best if you are a regular highway driver and you are looking for 14" tyres. It is available only in 195/60 R14 though. In 15" and above, the cost is quite a bit. In 195/60 R14, the cost is higher, but manageable.
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My Verna CRDI is due for tyre change and looking at the review i am tempted to go for AD-07s!
Are these tyres an overkill for Verna? 80% of my driving is on highways.
Also i am currently running 185/65 14 on 5.5J alloys. Is it safe to go for 195/60 14 on the same alloys. What is the approx cost of AD-07 in this size?
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It was around 5.3k but it has gone up now due to the price increase. It is around 5400 now.

You can definitely go for it. You will not regret it. However, if you drive 80% on highways, you might have lesser tyre life than me. We got a good life out of it because only about 50% was on highways.
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Old 28th February 2010, 21:24   #101
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I 've gone through most of the Tyre threads on Team-Bhp and believe PP2 & the Yoko AD07 are the best for performance. I would either go in for 225/55R15, 215/60R15 or 205/60R15 replacing the original NCT5 195/65R15. I have checked all these 3 options for OD and sidewall ht and they all seem OK.

If the Yokos are really more Chuckable (as ROC says), i would prefer them as i want a lighter steering than what my Octy 1.8 presently has.

Would Yokos be more expensive than the PP2 for these sizes and is there a dealer in Pune ?

My driving would be 80% tar roads 50-80 kph and 20% concrete expressway at 150-180kph max. Help !
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Old 28th February 2010, 23:07   #102
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The Ad07s will be waaaay more expensive. You dont have any AD07 options in your requirement.

Look at going to 16" and 205/55 R16.

PP2s are out of production. The PS3s have been launched to fill the gap left by the absence of the PP2s.
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Hi Nikhilb,
Thanks for the info. 16" changeover is out of budget. Do i have any other option in 15" other than PP2 and AD07 ? I can wait for upto 2 months.
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205/60 R15 Conti CPC2.
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Old 2nd March 2010, 13:48   #105
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@ nikhil; Price of PS2 for 205/60/R-15 for my car

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The Ad07s will be waaaay more expensive. You dont have any AD07 options in your requirement.

Look at going to 16" and 205/55 R16.

PP2s are out of production. The PS3s have been launched to fill the gap left by the absence of the PP2s.
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