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Old 31st August 2010, 22:11   #286
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6. Braking is fine. It takes 10 to 15% extra distance compared to my previous JK Ultimas.
Interesting!! Has anyone else noticed this about the XM1+.

Also any change in FE (for same size tire)?
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Old 31st August 2010, 23:14   #287
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Yup.. its a democracy all right .. Fiat Adventure is a tough car then.

And deepest apologies for one of the most frustrating mistakes - misspelling a buddy's name!
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Need some advice on the current prices of the Michelin XM1+ size 185/60/R14 in Hyderabad. I have taken quotes from a dealer called Xenex in Madhapur, and they quoted Rs 4850 per tyre.

The dealer is also pushing me for Yoko Es100 saying that Michelins are made of soft compound and will not last as long as the Es100, on indian conditions. He is quoting Rs 4300 a tyre for the ES100. I am a novice on tyres by from whatever i know, the reality is just the opposite of what the dealer is saying, i.e. ES100 has the softer compound out of the 2 and it gives up on grip levels at an earlier age than the other.

Are these correct prices or am I being taken for a ride? Please suggest the best possible tyres out of these (or other than these) for Palio Stile MJD, along with estimated prices.

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Need some advice on the current prices of the Michelin XM1+ size 185/60/R14 in Hyderabad. I have taken quotes from a dealer called Xenex in Madhapur, and they quoted Rs 4850 per tyre.

The dealer is also pushing me for Yoko Es100 saying that Michelins are made of soft compound and will not last as long as the Es100, on indian conditions. He is quoting Rs 4300 a tyre for the ES100.
I am no expert, but I just changed tyres and went through some searching the internet and talking to dealers , so here's my 2 cents.

ES100 seems to be performance tyres and not a comfort oriented tyres like Michellin xm1+. If your first priority is grip and tight cornering at high speed, then you should look at ES100 only, leave xm1+ out. But if you prefer comfort and tire mileage you should be looking at michellin xm1+ and yoko a drives. I went for a drives and would recommend it. The prices seems to be higher, where i live Xm1+ 185/70/14 was quoted 4300/- and ES100 around 4000. I got the Yoko A drives for around 3700 per tyre including fitting, alignment, balancing and taxes. from my understanding 185/70/14 are supposed to be costlier than 185/60/14 due to more rubber on the sidewalls. So, you might have some bargaining left to do...

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I just noticed this thread, and guess what?, I have Turanza's on the rear and Michelin XM1+ up front. AFAIK, The turanzas are far more sporty tyres, than the XM1+ as they offer better cornering grip and less body roll. but then, the XM1+ are much more comfy than the Turanzas, I guess its because of the soft side wall.

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Old 2nd September 2010, 08:23   #291
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I had switched to Turanza ER60 on my Civic - 205 65 R15 after running 20000km on my stock Bridestones. Ony my Verna, I changed to Turanza 195 60 R14 right after delivery. I should say these tyres are performing superbly with absolutely no complaints. They are real good allround tyres. The issues I used to have on my earlier Indigo on XM1's are not there - read sidewall cuts and bulges in 2 tyres.
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Need some advice on the current prices of the Michelin XM1+ size 185/60/R14 in Hyderabad. I have taken quotes from a dealer called Xenex in Madhapur, and they quoted Rs 4850 per tyre.

The dealer is also pushing me for Yoko Es100 saying that Michelins are made of soft compound and will not last as long as the Es100, on indian conditions. He is quoting Rs 4300 a tyre for the ES100. I am a novice on tyres by from whatever i know, the reality is just the opposite of what the dealer is saying, i.e. ES100 has the softer compound out of the 2 and it gives up on grip levels at an earlier age than the other.

Are these correct prices or am I being taken for a ride? Please suggest the best possible tyres out of these (or other than these) for Palio Stile MJD, along with estimated prices.
SilkDrive, Never Deal with XENEX they always fleece people and price quoted for XM1+ is way higher than the actual price.

Michelin XM1+ (175/65/R14) is Rs.4150/Tyre and you get a Samsung Mobile phone worth Rs.1800 free.

I think 185/60/R14 is about 50 bucks per tyre cheaper, if i am not wrong

If your interested, PM me and i can share the dealer contacts.

P.S : Oh, btw, XM1+ are much superior than ES100.

Cheers !

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Thanks, to all of you, for the information. Based on the inputs, i have decided to go for XM1+.

Mobike008, you are spot on about XENEX, I got quotes from another different outlet of XENEX, and there were huge differences in the prices. I have also checked out at Reliance Autozone and they are quoting 3965 a tyre for XM1+. But no mention about the free mobile that is showing up in the Mchelin ads on TeamBHP.

I have made it a point to talk to the dealer that you recommended in TeamBHP directory. Will PM you for more contacts.

Thanks !

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Thanks, to all of you, for the information. Based on the inputs, i have decided to go for XM1+.

Mobike008, you are spot on about XENEX, I got quotes from another different outlet of XENEX, and there were huge differences in the prices. I have also checked out at Reliance Autozone and they are quoting 3965 a tyre for XM1+. But no mention about the free mobile that is showing up in the Mchelin ads on TeamBHP.

I have made it a point to talk to the dealer that you recommended in TeamBHP directory. Will PM you for more contacts.

Thanks !
Yeah, I was talking about "Wheels" at Tadbund.

He happens to be a friends friend and will give good service. His name is Srikanth and if you need his contact info, just PM me.

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Turanza ER60 won't be easily available for another month. Some production issue, i'm told.

195/60-15 is totally out. Stock of 195/60-14 is available at some places.
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Guys need urgent Advice..
Car .. Palio 1.9 D
Current Tyres XM1 185/70 R 13
Running 43 000 Kms +
Now its time to change the tyres and am upgrading to 14" Fiat Adventure alloys, which i have brough already.
I am very happy with XM1, but one of my XM1, suffered side cut, blame it to our roads, which 14" tyre profile should i go for and which brand Michelin/Bridgestone.
Raods in our are are worst in India, i can bet on that.
Are XM+ better than XM1 when it comes to Bad Roads..?
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Parimal, if the roads are that bad, Michelins may not be the right choice.

Try out the Turanza ER-60 this time & let us know your feedback after some running.
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Old 3rd September 2010, 10:31   #298
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OT, Well my friend this is why i said that the Adventure is a tough car ....
Mahindra Scorpio vs Fiat Adventure - Going dust

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Yup.. its a democracy all right .. Fiat Adventure is a tough car then.

And deepest apologies for one of the most frustrating mistakes - misspelling a buddy's name!
Parimal a BIG NO if you intend to use the XM1+ for the rough roads, Turanza it is for me!

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Guys need urgent Advice..
Car .. Palio 1.9 D
Current Tyres XM1 185/70 R 13
Running 43 000 Kms +
Now its time to change the tyres and am upgrading to 14" Fiat Adventure alloys, which i have brough already.
I am very happy with XM1, but one of my XM1, suffered side cut, blame it to our roads, which 14" tyre profile should i go for and which brand Michelin/Bridgestone.
Raods in our are are worst in India, i can bet on that.
Are XM+ better than XM1 when it comes to Bad Roads..?
Can you outline what exactly you mean by bad roads? Do you mean pot holes like in small towns or the ones found in most cities?

If its the latter, then you can safely go ahead with XM1+ even if they come with soft compound.

I have used one for over 20,000kms without a single puncture and have driven it on all kinds of roads.

My simple belief, take care of your tyres and they will take care of you
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Can you outline what exactly you mean by bad roads? Do you mean pot holes like in small towns or the ones found in most cities?

If its the latter, then you can safely go ahead with XM1+ even if they come with soft compound.

I have used one for over 20,000kms without a single puncture and have driven it on all kinds of roads.

My simple belief, take care of your tyres and they will take care of you
Bad roads means, its difficult to explain, actually huge pot holes, where some times my office bus ground clearence is also not sufficient, and they fill those pot hole by small stones having sharp edges, and due to this my one of the tyre got side cut, but not blamming tyres as this happended after using tyres for 40,000 Km, and still some thread is left on the tyres. And am sure XM1+ are better than XM1. And about punctures i had atleast 5 punctures for each tyres but cant blame the tyres for it, as most of them are due to big nails.
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