Go Back   Team-BHP > Under the Hood > Modifications & Accessories > Tyre & Alloy wheel Section


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 2nd October 2010, 09:05   #316
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Hyderabad
Posts: 1,099
Thanked: 157 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AWD View Post
I recently changed to Turanza ER60 on my car, size 195/60/15.
Not mush impressed after initial usage. Steering effort & noise reduction are the only +ves I could make out. Smaller contact patch from 205 to 195 could be responsible for steering effect though.
Ride comfort which was my top priority has either remained same or deteriorated, handling too was better before.
I'd say these are over-rated tyres.
Most of the bridgestone tires have reinforced sidewalls to take care of India's pothole smeared roads. The ride quality is a natural victim w/o a supple sidewall. One cant have it all
Buffetfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd October 2010, 20:08   #317
Distinguished - BHPian
 
dhanushs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Bathery/BLR
Posts: 3,446
Thanked: 4,054 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AWD View Post
I was on Goodyear Venturas - 205/60/15. - I recently changed to Turanza ER60 on my car, size 195/60/15.
Steering effort & noise reduction are the only +ves I could make out. Smaller contact patch from 205 to 195 could be responsible for steering effect though.


Yes, the reduction in steering effort should be due to the smaller contact patch. Also the smaller contact patch for a 15 incher should reduce the handling/grip noticeably, even if the tires are of high quality. ie, IMO, average quality 205/60/15 should handle more than good quality 195/60/15.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AWD View Post
Ride comfort which was my top priority has either remained same or deteriorated, handling too was better before.
Regarding comfort, it should also deteriorate irrespective of make, and that is because of the lower sidewall height of the 195/60 ones. Also, I don't think the Turanza's are high on comfort, but they definitely are much better on handling/grip.

If you had gotten the same size Turanzas, you would have noticed the change. In this case, only tyre noise and steering effort are the factors that ought to change.
dhanushs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th October 2010, 18:42   #318
BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: thiruvananthapuram
Posts: 774
Thanked: 20 Times
Default

XM1+ has crossed 15500 kms in adventure (front alone) . They are so far very good , from the present wear I assume it to be there until 35000 kms . It is pretty good when we consider feedback from adventure owners . There was uneven wear which got rectified after doing wheel alignment . The rear tires shows no signs of any wear, they actually served as front tires for 3000 kms . Before putting michelin , adventure underwent a correction of camber settings . Previously a shim was used to serve the purpose .

Last edited by swathyd : 4th October 2010 at 18:45.
swathyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th October 2010, 00:24   #319
BHPian
 
nitin.rai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 327
Thanked: 235 Times
Default From OEM BS S322 to Michelin XM1+ for Santro Xing

Folks,

On my Santro OEM BS I clocked 63k kms with 1.4 mm of tread left... i know even the dealer had a tough time believing it. (Am a quick driver but with minimal burn & anticipatory braking).

Was pretty happy with my BS but a little tired of the noise.

Reading your reviews got a set of XM1+ today and within 10 kms of ride I could feel the difference. Tried out the back seat after the tyre change and the Santro's ride quality seemed to have improved by leaps and bounds.

Thanks much for the guidance and keep the posts coming in!
nitin.rai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th October 2010, 17:03   #320
BHPian
 
Black_Beast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Chennai
Posts: 107
Thanked: 117 Times
Exclamation Was ER60 Stopped?

I was looking to change my stock tires Goodyear to either XM1+ or BS ER60
I have inquired few shops in Chennai and everywhere i see there is no ready stock on ER60, they are asking for a waiting period of a week.

Is this due to not a fast moving model or was it stopped?
My travel path often doesn't have a smooth road, reading the review on XM1+ for smooth road. I am little afraid whether i would be fooled on buying a XM1+.
Just wondering have Michelin upgraded their tires to suite Indian roads or we should stick to ER60.

Is Yokohama A-drive for 185/70/R13 good?
Black_Beast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th October 2010, 20:12   #321
Distinguished - BHPian
 
dhanushs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Bathery/BLR
Posts: 3,446
Thanked: 4,054 Times
Default

I think the Yokohama's are way cheaper than the Bridgestones, or Micheline's, and it is a great VFM product, but then, the latter two perform better. For bad roads, I guess, you can opt for ER60's. Regarding availability, yes, there is shortage , but then If you look well you should be able to lay your hands on a pair or two.

Last edited by dhanushs : 6th October 2010 at 20:16.
dhanushs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th October 2010, 17:59   #322
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Nikhilb2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 4,825
Thanked: 4,794 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dhanushs View Post
Yes, the reduction in steering effort should be due to the smaller contact patch. Also the smaller contact patch for a 15 incher should reduce the handling/grip noticeably, even if the tires are of high quality. ie, IMO, average quality 205/60/15 should handle more than good quality 195/60/15.
Absolutely not true! A good quality 195 tyre will easily be better than the crappy 205 tyre on almost all surfaces!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Beast View Post
I was looking to change my stock tires Goodyear to either XM1+ or BS ER60
I have inquired few shops in Chennai and everywhere i see there is no ready stock on ER60, they are asking for a waiting period of a week.

Is this due to not a fast moving model or was it stopped?
My travel path often doesn't have a smooth road, reading the review on XM1+ for smooth road. I am little afraid whether i would be fooled on buying a XM1+.
Just wondering have Michelin upgraded their tires to suite Indian roads or we should stick to ER60.

Is Yokohama A-drive for 185/70/R13 good?
There is a major shortage of tyres in the Indian market. Unfortunately the buyers have to run from pillar to post ot get the tyre of their choice.

ER60 has not been stopped. Try with other dealers.
Nikhilb2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th October 2010, 20:43   #323
Distinguished - BHPian
 
dhanushs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Bathery/BLR
Posts: 3,446
Thanked: 4,054 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008 View Post
Absolutely not true! A good quality 195 tyre will easily be better than the crappy 205 tyre on almost all surfaces!
Well, Goodyear Venturas aren't that crappy, and 205 Goodyear Venturas should handle better than 195 Turanzas.

Sorry for not being specific. . Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
dhanushs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th October 2010, 21:47   #324
BHPian
 
rock18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Chennai
Posts: 310
Thanked: 54 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Beast View Post
I was looking to change my stock tires Goodyear to either XM1+ or BS ER60
I have inquired few shops in Chennai and everywhere i see there is no ready stock on ER60, they are asking for a waiting period of a week.

Is this due to not a fast moving model or was it stopped?
My travel path often doesn't have a smooth road, reading the review on XM1+ for smooth road. I am little afraid whether i would be fooled on buying a XM1+.
Just wondering have Michelin upgraded their tires to suite Indian roads or we should stick to ER60.

Is Yokohama A-drive for 185/70/R13 good?
Dude..i found ER-60 in a Ramesh tyres, Velachery.Price will be around 4k.
Check it out.
rock18 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th October 2010, 09:05   #325
Senior - BHPian
 
kpzen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Faridabad
Posts: 5,545
Thanked: 1,598 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dhanushs View Post
Well, Goodyear Venturas aren't that crappy, and 205 Goodyear Venturas should handle better than 195 Turanzas.
Venturas are good tires but only for 1st 10k kms. Once they cross 10k mark the performance starts deteriorating and they becomes noisy as hell.
That was my experience in Zen 185/60-13.
kpzen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th October 2010, 16:24   #326
Newbie
 
deepakdsz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 18
Thanked: 56 Times
Default

I am asked 4150/- for a 175/65 14 sized to fit in my Fiesta. Since this is the first replacement, wondering if this price is justified or can I get a better deal in BLR ?
deepakdsz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th October 2010, 16:29   #327
Senior - BHPian
 
shankar.balan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: BLR
Posts: 8,027
Thanked: 5,325 Times
Default

you cannot do better than go to Madhu's at the end of Richmond Road/ Shanthi Nagar side - I got a superb deal on 185 60 R14 Apollos yesterday for my dad. The deal on Yokohamas also is very good indeed.
With TBHP membership they extend certain other special privileges too. Worth a visit in my opinion.
I am sure they will be able to help you with your Bridgestones or Michelins too.

Quote:
Originally Posted by deepakdsz View Post
I am asked 4150/- for a 175/65 14 sized to fit in my Fiesta. Since this is the first replacement, wondering if this price is justified or can I get a better deal in BLR ?

Last edited by shankar.balan : 19th October 2010 at 16:31.
shankar.balan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th October 2010, 11:53   #328
BHPian
 
devrajman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 504
Thanked: 116 Times
Default

What is good PSI for 155/70R13 for Zen with car weighing 1000kgs?

They are brand new.

Im currently filling 30psi using my personal air compressor.

One of the pump filled 32psi which was a little bouncy.
devrajman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th October 2010, 12:29   #329
Senior - BHPian
 
kpzen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Faridabad
Posts: 5,545
Thanked: 1,598 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by devrajman View Post
What is good PSI for 155/70R13 for Zen with car weighing 1000kgs?

They are brand new.

Im currently filling 30psi using my personal air compressor.

One of the pump filled 32psi which was a little bouncy.
30 ~32 psi is fine for Zen.

Mostly, the reading of pumps @ fuel stations are not accurate and also varies from pump to pump.
kpzen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th October 2010, 21:17   #330
BHPian
 
MADMAX111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Now Delhi, Very Often Bangalore
Posts: 105
Thanked: 23 Times
Default

Dear Gurus,
My Baleno is due for a tyre change. I have been running Bridgestone Potenza GIII for last 50k kms. A lot of my driving is on highways and interiors of UP, HP, UK Punjab Haryana. I generally maintain 100 Kms on highways and max 120 and would rate myself as moderately enthusiastic driver. I have no issue with GIIs except road noise and being a little prone to punctures(may be subjective this puncture thing).

Now the question is which one should I go for GIIIs or ER 60 Turanza considering my usage.

Kindly advise???
MADMAX111 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Michelin "Energy XM1+" or Goodyear "Assurance" lohithrao Tyre & Alloy wheel Section 40 1st November 2010 00:12
Michelin Energy XM1+ - Replace or Keep it ? PankajP Tyre & Alloy wheel Section 6 30th September 2009 19:18
Changed to Michelin Energy XM1 from almost new Goodyear NCT-5 rishi_kapoor Tyre & Alloy wheel Section 12 17th November 2008 15:43
Grey Market Michelin XM1 Energy Jaskirat Tyre & Alloy wheel Section 16 21st August 2008 09:58
Michelin energy xm1+ vs. Yokohama A.Drive...? rana_kirti Tyre & Alloy wheel Section 1 30th May 2008 20:23


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 10:57.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks