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Old 3rd January 2011, 21:12   #361
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Thanks folks, I have decided to wait for the ER60. Price quoted in Pune was 4100 per tyre. I heard that the prices are going up from this week though!
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Folks, This weekend I changed to Michelin Energy XM1+ for my 2005 Wagon R(155/65/R13). Total cost came to Rs. 12000 including WA, WB and air valves.

3 OEM JK tyres and 4 tubes were sold for Rs. 300. 1 tyre, I had kept as spare and 1 tyre was a total loss due to a rupture.

The tyres were changed at Global Tyres, Plarivattom, Cochin. The whole experience were good and I am giving a thumbs up to them .
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If its 13" then it cannot be the +, its probably the XM1.
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Old 9th January 2011, 23:01   #364
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If its 13" then it cannot be the +, its probably the XM1.
They do have XM1+ in their inventory of R13.

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Whats written on the sidewall of the tire?
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Old 10th January 2011, 06:36   #366
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If its 13" then it cannot be the +, its probably the XM1.
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Whats written on the sidewall of the tire?
XM1+ does come in 13". It reads Michelin XM1+ instead of Michelin Energy XM1+

175/70 R13 on my i10
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There is a dark side to this. The Tyres feel a little squishy at speeds above 140 as compared to the harder GT3, but it could be a tyre pressure or alignment issue as well. Have not checked as yet.
Scratch that as well.
Got my wheels realigned and balanced at Tyre Empire, my regular guy and things are smooth thereafter. No pulls to any side, no squishy behavior at all. It was a problem with uneven pressure and balancing.

Anyone looking for 195/60R15 Turanza in Bangalore, it seems Tyre Empire (whitefield) has stock. Saw a Toyota get the same size while I was there.
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XM1+ does come in 13". It reads Michelin XM1+ instead of Michelin Energy XM1+

175/70 R13 on my i10
Interesting. Wonder what the difference is?
According to this chart, it doesn't MICHELIN

BTW, what alloys are those?
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XM1+ has more tread depth compared to the XM1 which had a complaint of low tread life.
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XM1+ has more tread depth compared to the XM1 which had a complaint of low tread life.
No I meant + with energy and + w/o energy. In Michelin-speak, Energy stands for hi-sliica compound that gives better FE.

Maybe Nikhil can elaborate?

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I think they're one and the same.
XM has always been an energy tyre.
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Interesting. Wonder what the difference is?
According to this chart, it doesn't MICHELIN

BTW, what alloys are those?
I'm not sure of what the difference is. I'm just going by the print on the sidewall.

These are Hyundai OE Alloys. Not sure of the manufacturer.

Yes, Michelin claims XM1+ last 25% more (probably compared to XM1)
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Well, even I was confused for a while! I never noticed the difference until last year!

12" and 13" Michelin XM1+ tyres do NOT have the Energy name. That is because they dont have the silica compound which they use in the other 14" and 15" tyres.

So, the tread pattern is identical but the silica content is lesser in 12" and 13".
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Well, even I was confused for a while! I never noticed the difference until last year!

12" and 13" Michelin XM1+ tyres do NOT have the Energy name. That is because they dont have the silica compound which they use in the other 14" and 15" tyres.

So, the tread pattern is identical but the silica content is lesser in 12" and 13".
Nikhil, My XM1+s have done around 16k kms and of late they seem to become very noisy and the ride quality has gone down a bit.

Deepak of tyrestore suggested me to bring down the Psi to reduce the noise and improve ride.

That bettered the ride but the tyre is still noisy.

Are these tyres known to become too hard with age ?
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Deepak of tyrestore suggested me to bring down the Psi to reduce the noise and improve ride.
Bringing down the PSI will increase ride comfort, but will also increase tyre noise.
Reason: More flexing of tyre walls, and slightly more contact patch.
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