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Old 9th July 2011, 17:40   #421
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I have 175/65 R14 Goodyear tyres on my Getz prime 1.3. Of late there are more potholes on the roads where I travel and I get complaints from my wife that ride is bad over uneven stretches and I am forced to watch out carefully. Can I improve the ride quality by changing to Michelin XM1+ 175/70 (without changing the rims)? From what I gather in this thread, they have soft sidewalls and flex more and hence feel that ride quality should improve. Will they also lighten up the steering, because I feel that steering is bit on heavier side at very low speeds?


I dont think my car's suspension has any issue, as it has run about 25000 km so far and it is just over 2 years old.
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Anyone with Pirelli. The tyre feels and look very good. The dealer claimed it was even better than XM1+. Longest warranty of 5 years. 12 mm tread instead of usual 8 in other tyres. Will last longest. At 3200 per tyre costs as much as XM1+. I was looking at it for my Wagon R. 155/65/R13. Rated T meaning it can go 150+. Hardly an issue. Warranty could be problem. But the seller said that he himself was its distributor in Delhi NCR (Indirapuram). The tyre he suggested was Cinturato P4. 155/65R13 73. Here is its link CINTURATO P4, Car tyres, Summer tyres - PIRELLI
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We have justed installed the ER60's 225/60/15 on our Innova, and its Very good. I vote for the ER60 versus the XM1 which I have on my other Toyota Van.
cost us 8200x4. Fresh production date of April '11.
The only worry I have is that my people have used the original steel rims, instead of wider alloys. Does anyone have any experience on how this size behaves on the steel rims of Innova?
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Turanza ER60's side walls are much.. much tougher than Michelin. I have run both on my car. In an unfortunate incident, Michelin's side walls gave way.If you are looking for tough tyres, IMHO, nothing can beat the Turanza ER60 for a passenger car.

I'm not sure about the 195/70 upgrade for the logan, but if you do, make sure they do not scrape the side walls.
I could not get the Turanzas in 195/70 - so went in for the Potenzas in 195/70.
No scraping issues!
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After driving ~10k kms on Turanzas, I can witness improved Ride quality in my car.

There is a marked improvement over the earlier Goodyears the car was on.
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In need for new tires for my Esteem. Inquired about Bridgestone ER60. Got two quotes. One dealer about 10KMs away, quoted Rs3750/- per tire for 175/70 R13 and another dealer across the road from where I live quotes Rs.4150/-. Which of these dealers is closest to the current cost of this tire?

The dealer across the road also stocks Micheline XM1+ and quoted Rs.4050/- per tire.

There is a new Apollo dealer further down the road. Shall get a quote for Accelers too and take a call on it.
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Which of these dealers is closest to the current cost of this tire?
Why are you insisting on buying the tyres at market price??. Go for the cheap ones dude!.

Just make sure they are not older than 6 months. Check the manufacturing date.
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I changed my car tyres two weeks back and I wanted to upsize from 13" to 14" . After much deliberation I went to the store and was shown both Michellins and Yokohamas but I finally selected the Michellins because of it's high overall grip in both wet and dry conditions. After the change the ride has become very noiseless and smooth.
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Why are you insisting on buying the tyres at market price??. Go for the cheap ones dude!.

Just make sure they are not older than 6 months. Check the manufacturing date.
Yes, manufacturing date would decide the deal for me. Cheaper should not mean Old stock. However, what I want to know is, how much more is 4150/- from the actual cost of ER 60, or is that the right price? XM1+ is not further away at 4050/-. Close call.
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Yes, manufacturing date would decide the deal for me. Cheaper should not mean Old stock. However, what I want to know is, how much more is 4150/- from the actual cost of ER 60, or is that the right price? XM1+ is not further away at 4050/-. Close call.
Got Bridgestone ER60 for Rs.4125/- per tire. Installation included wheel alignment and balancing. Drove only 15 kms after installation, so cannot say much. On the curves of road around KBR park, the car felt a lot more grounded. Steering feels sharper.
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Awesome thread as usual! And very-very informative.

I have an Accent CRDi and am planning to change all the 4 tyres (175/70/13). My running is typically 20% city, 80% highway. The tires that I pick should have good high-speed grip and stability while doing fast turns. Rough roads, tyre noise, comfort, longetivity of tyres are not that much of a concern.

Now, the general consensus is that BS Turanza, Michelin XM1+, Yoko A and Apollo Acelere are all good, with not too much to choose between them (Is that right???)

I'm being quoted 3.3k for Acelere, 3.6 for Yoko and 4.1 for both BS & Michelin.

1. Why is Acelere cheaper?
2. Is 800/- enough of an incentive to go for Acelere (over BS, Michelin)?
3. Should I even be thinking so much considering all the 4 tyres are good?

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^^Accelere is 800 Rs cheaper for a reason. It lacks the grip of BS and the longevity of Michelin.

My advise would be, if you can afford, then go for the BS. You wont regret it.
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I changed my stock tyres in my previously owned Viva CRDi at 33K kms and opted for XM1+ Energy with an upsize on width and rim size to 195/65/R14

It was a world of difference from the stock BS tyres that Accent is shod with. Some differences seen during my 28K kms ownership experience of XM1+

1. Road noise reduces almost by 80% roughly
2. Braking improved a lot
3. Longer life span. Even after 28K kms, treads looked good for another 20K kms
4. Due to softer compound, the ride is excellent

Overall, its Michelins are quite pricey but, they were a perfect balance between comfort and performance.

Btw, Bought each tyre for Rs.4200 ( it was a promotion) otherwise, I think its around 4.6K/tyre for this configuration
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I am looking for comfortable tires for my Polo Highline. Don't want to upsize as that would need new alloy wheels and warranty issues will come up. So is the XM1+ available in 185/60/R15? Or is there any other comfortable tyre that matches this profile.
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I am looking for comfortable tires for my Polo Highline. Don't want to upsize as that would need new alloy wheels and warranty issues will come up. So is the XM1+ available in 185/60/R15? Or is there any other comfortable tyre that matches this profile.
If its comfort than Michelin XM1+ Energy it is.

Btw, that size is not available in XM1+. Following sizes are available in 14" and 15"

205/65R15
205/60R15

185/70R14
195/70R14

Source : MICHELIN

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