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Old 6th June 2009, 17:00   #121
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1. Bent front steel rim when I went into a medium sized pothole at about 100 kmph
How can this be a con?

Any tyre would have resulted the same.
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How can this be a con?

Any tyre would have resulted the same.
1. More than the tire, its the angle of the tire at which u hit the pothole.
There's a nice post by Mr Dharbar Behram somewhere on how to handle potholes at high speeds. Search around.

2. Sidewall strength also plays a role in absorbing the impact. More the strength lesser will be the impact on rims.

3. Tire width v/s rim width.
If you mount a 165 section tire on 4/4.5j rims the tire will bulge out. All the impact won't be transferred on to the rim hence, lesser chance of rim damage. With 5j rims the full potential of the tire can be exploited but the chances of rim damage would be more in the same scenario.
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How can this be a con?

Any tyre would have resulted the same.
IMO comfort is proportional to side wall flexibility. Thus softer the side wall more comfort and more likely hood of rim bends. In my older tubed bridgestones 45k km and not one dent. potholes being common factor. Of course they were not as comfortable as the XM1's. Though it may not be a con per se, one has to balance the conflicting requirements of comfort and rim damage, grip and longevity, etc.
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Hey guys,

I read the entire discussion going on. I have a Getz and am planning to change tires for it. Presently its running on Goodyear OEM tube tires of 175/70 R13 on OEM alloys. Would like to shift to tubeless considering its pros over tube type. I am also interested in the bramds that are discussed here. I would like to know if 185/65 R13 is a good upsize and if any of these have these sizes?

P.S: I have no plans to change the alloys. Only a tire change.

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Srinath, for the right upsize, check the Upsize chart available on this thread:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...-your-car.html (READ FIRST: Choosing The Right Set Of Tyres for your Car)

For size availability, check the company website: Michelin (Michelin India - Home) and Bridgestone (Bridgestone India Private Limited).
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Hey guys,

I read the entire discussion going on. I have a Getz and am planning to change tires for it. Presently its running on Goodyear OEM tube tires of 175/70 R13 on OEM alloys. Would like to shift to tubeless considering its pros over tube type. I am also interested in the bramds that are discussed here. I would like to know if 185/65 R13 is a good upsize and if any of these have these sizes?

P.S: I have no plans to change the alloys. Only a tire change.

Thanks
Srinath
I would suggest that you stick to the stock OEM size of 175-70-13 for Getz. Just change from the crappy GPS tires to something better like Mich XM1+ tubeless.

The difference is mind blowing. I too have the Getz and hence can tell you with confidence. Yokos are also a popular choice but my dealer told me that Mich scores slightly higher. Of course, the latter is about Rs 500/tire more expensive too.
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I am told that except bridgestone S322 all other bridgestone tyres are without bill & warantee. Is this correct?
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Absolutely untrue and wrong. SOmeone's just messing with you.
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I have Michelin XM1 185/70 on my retro Palio for the past 2500 Kms. (Changed from Good year GPS at 38000 Kms onwards)

I just love the ride quality of these tires. The road noise has come down, the car just rolls on and on in nuetral than how it was with the GPS... cornering & breaking confidence has improved. And its easier to wheelspin when you take off on tarmac, I don't know why

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I have Michelin XM1 185/70 on my retro Palio for the past 2500 Kms. (Changed from Good year GPS at 38000 Kms onwards)

I just love the ride quality of these tires. The road noise has come down, the car just rolls on and on in nuetral than how it was with the GPS... cornering & breaking confidence has improved. And its easier to wheelspin when you take off on tarmac, I don't know why
Tyres need about 300 km to run in till such time it will be more slippery and will be easier to wheelspin.

Please DO NOT drive in Neutral at anytime.highly risky when the tyres are running in. Risky otherwise too.
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Please DO NOT drive in Neutral at anytime.highly risky when the tyres are running in. Risky otherwise too.
Yes, I know that. I generally do not drive in Nuetral, I even downshift and make use of engine breaking too, when decelerating. Engine sounds really nice when you slow down from around 80-90 Kmph in 3rd gear till 50 and then in second, proper rev-matching is needed when you downshift to second gear at such speeds though.

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Old 12th June 2009, 12:39   #132
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Yeasterday went for tyre shopping for my swift.
The price quoted was

Turanza ER-60 3050

XM1+ 3550
Size: 185/70R14

Also can I put 205/65R14 in my swift? Any problems?
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Hey guys,

I went through the websites of both manufactures. Turanzas are good and so are XM1s. One doubt remains that if 175/70 R13 is available in XM1+ as the site shows it only in XM1 section. As suggested I also did a tyre calculation. Well, this is what resulted:

Stock size:175/70 R13
New size: 185/70 R13

It showed a speedo difference of 2.38% slow.

I would like to know the adverse effects of this result. If its minor, I would consider the upsize otherwise will stick to the stock size of 175/70 R13. Moreover, I already have alloys fixed to stock so would like to retain them. Will the upsize be able to hold them in place as there is a width increase?

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185/70 R13 is ok. It's not a bad size. 2.38% is just about ok. The ride quality on your car will definitely improve.
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Guys earlier I had Goodyear GPS in my Zen. Few days back I have changed to Bridgestone Turanza ER 60 (145/80/R12) with alloy wheels. I dont find any difference in ride quality moreover I think this tyres generate more sound than the earlier one. Is 28 psi is ok?

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