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Old 19th April 2010, 10:25   #211
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Hello,

I have a Swift Dzire VDI and desire to upgrade the JK Tyers to some Yoko's or Michelin's.

Stock size is 165/80/R14

1. I do not wish to upgrade the rims to alloys as of now.
2. Can I go in for 185/70R14 (stock in ZDI) without changing the Rims? Which is the recommended size for upgrading as per gurus on TBHP.
3. Noise on road should be less.
4. Not willing to compromise too much on the Mileage.
5. Ride comfort should be good both on Tarmac and Rough roads.
6. Should last long.
7. Should be affordable . Please suggest the indicative price of the recommended Tyers.
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Old 19th April 2010, 10:36   #212
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You can go in for 185/70 R14 on OEM rims. No issues with that.

You choose what is affordable and what tyre you like. The Yoko A drives, Continental CEC3, XM1+ and Apollo Acelere all come in that size and meet all your requirements.

The cost varies from 3280 for the Yokos to 4000 for the Michelins.
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Old 19th April 2010, 10:44   #213
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@ nikhil, Heard few issues about the Yoko's and Michelin's sidewall rupturing and being very soft on TBHP. Is this true?

Pardon me if its irrelevant, do you deal with Tyers in Bangalore? EDIT: just saw your profile and indeed you deal with Tyers. Plz Pm me your number. I will get in touch with you for changing the tyers.

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Old 19th April 2010, 12:19   #214
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Well, Yokos and Michelins are a little softer than Indian brands. It will get damaged if you drive like a maniac over bad roads!

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Thanks for the super prompt reply Nikhil!

Are you sure the 185/60 is going to be that bad? The difference in sidewall height is about 2-3mm!

I had eliminated 185/65 for that reason that the change in sidewall height will be to the tune of 6-7mm and the speedo/odo reading might go a bit off.

The C-Drive looks tempting, how is the Wet Grip performance & Noise production of A-Drive Vs C-Drive, any idea?
Yes. Bottle from Madras is using 185/60 R14 XM1+ on his Palio and I find the ride to be hard. 185/65 R14 isnt going to be a problem. Dont worry about it.

C drives grip very well, are very silent and are very comfortable. They are better than the A drives in every respect except for price!

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Yes. Bottle from Madras is using 185/60 R14 XM1+ on his Palio and I find the ride to be hard. 185/65 R14 isnt going to be a problem. Dont worry about it.

C drives grip very well, are very silent and are very comfortable. They are better than the A drives in every respect except for price!
Thanks for your inputs Nikhil. More than riding comfort, my only grouse with the 185/65 is increase in ride height and difference in speedo/odo due to the increase of about 5% in sidewall height!

The price difference is too minimal between the A Drives and C Drives to help one come to a easy decision
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The speedo/odo error wont matter. You will know in your head that the speedo is wrong and oyu can compensate for it
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hi,
is the yoko A Drive R1 better then the A Drive?? is there a big difference in price between the two?

thanks..
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Old 27th April 2010, 08:59   #218
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Well, the A Drive isnt available in sizes bigger than 15". For 16'' and above, they have the A Drive R1. I think performance will be more or less equal. No great difference.

For 205/55 R16, the price of the A Drive R1 would be about 5500/- per tyre. I would still recommend you go in for the Continental CPC2 in that size.

PS: I'm replying to your PM here.
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Well, the A Drive isnt available in sizes bigger than 15". For 16'' and above, they have the A Drive R1. I think performance will be more or less equal. No great difference.

For 205/55 R16, the price of the A Drive R1 would be about 5500/- per tyre. I would still recommend you go in for the Continental CPC2 in that size.

PS: I'm replying to your PM here.
thanks for the info nikhil, howmuch will the conti CPC2 cost in the same size?
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About 7.6k per tyre.
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Old 29th April 2010, 15:44   #221
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Its time for a new set of tyres on my optra. currently running on michelin xm1+ 185/65/R14. I m very much satisfied with the performance of xm1+. Its a carpet feel drive. But the yoko A drive reviews have put me in a fix. How do they compare and which one should i go for?
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If you are happy with the XM1+s and dont mind their high cost, please go for it again. You wont regret it.
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If you are happy with the XM1+s and dont mind their high cost, please go for it again. You wont regret it.

So is Xm1+ worth the price difference? I was thinking of trying A drive this time. I mean i kinda liked the A drive tread pattern. So would you again suggest me Xm1+ even if the difference is minimum. How much is the price difference? your help would be valuable here.
One more question.... if i go for 195 instead of 185/R14, how much drop will there be in FE and pickup?
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Well, whether it is worth the difference, only users can confirm.

If the price difference is minimnal, then I would suggest the XM1+ blindly! The Yoko A drive is a very good tyre which gives very good VFM.

If you go for 195/60 R14, there will be a decrease in ride quality, decrease in ground clearance and a marginal drop in FE and pickup.
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Unable to find Adrive in 145/80 R12 in Delhi at few place i tried i decided on going for Turanza 145/80R12 @ Rs 1900/- per tyre.But at last moment i decided to go with XM1+ at Rs 2100/- per tyre.
Hope i will not face any issues and have decided the best in this size .
Now the Zen glides on road , no noise from tyres at all compared to the crappy GPS2 which were made to break the car.
I initially filled 26psi on all tyres but i increased it to 28psi as i wanted to reduce the tyre bulge on the rim.I generally drive alone.
Hope i am right?

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