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Old 24th March 2009, 16:23   #46
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XM1+ gives you 25% better Fuel efficiency? How do you say that?!?!

The only difference between XM1 and XM!+ is that the plus has 1.6mm of extra tread.
What i meant was the company is claiming that. Even i know no manafacturer can guarantee that kind of rise

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Mobike - Even given that the XM1+ is designed to be a low rolling resistance tyre, there is no way in the world they can give you a 25% boost in FE! All that is marketing talk. Do not expect anything more than a percent or two of difference if that.
I know Ishaan that it is all marketing blabber but then i hope it isnt as bad as 1-2% increase only as you say.

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^^^I guess what he means is 25% better than the efficiency that XM1 afforded. Eg.: if XM1 improves efficiency by say 5% over other tyres, the XM1+ would give an additional 1.25%
Sadly, i didnt mean what you said. But, that's a wonderful perspective and case for Michelin just in case they are dragged to court on those tall claims ground
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Old 24th March 2009, 16:40   #47
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Are Yoko A drives available in 195/55-15 and if yes whats the cost?
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Old 24th March 2009, 17:02   #48
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Yes. They are available They cost abt 4.1k.

But for your Getz CRDI, I wouldnt recommend it. Go for the S drives at least. They cost 4.5k.
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What i meant was the company is claiming that. Even i know no manafacturer can guarantee that kind of rise

I know Ishaan that it is all marketing blabber but then i hope it isnt as bad as 1-2% increase only as you say.

Sadly, i didnt mean what you said. But, that's a wonderful perspective and case for Michelin just in case they are dragged to court on those tall claims ground
Hmm, I don't think so... then they will have to specifically write something like "25% more fuel efficiency compared to earlier XM1 tyres"... so something similar.

If they mean outright 25% increase in fuel efficiency, I'll be amazed! Other things aside, a company that makes unsubstantiated and wild claims like this cant be trusted.
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Old 24th March 2009, 18:05   #50
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Please check the Michelin site guys :Michelin India - Energy XM1+

what they are saying is better fuel efficiency ( not how much ) but its got 25% more tire life compared to XM1.

Any idea on the life span of Yoko A drives when compared to XM1 and Acceleres?
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Please check the Michelin site guys :Michelin India - Energy XM1+

what they are saying is better fuel efficiency ( not how much ) but its got 25% more tire life compared to XM1.

Any idea on the life span of Yoko A drives when compared to XM1 and Acceleres?
My bad. This sorts out the thing. So its 25% more tyre life but, this statement is also debatable

Anyways, Since i bought them, i gotta trust them. Not that i really care if they last 25% more or not.
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As I said, 1.6mm of extra tread is a lot! I dont know about the 25% claims, but life will definitely be better than the XM1
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^^They have an insane treadwear rating of 400 or something - will last really long.
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Nope. My AD07s with a treadwear rating of 180 are bettter!!
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Yes. They are available They cost abt 4.1k.

But for your Getz CRDI, I wouldnt recommend it. Go for the S drives at least. They cost 4.5k.
Thanks for the information Nikhil.
My car is running on 205/50-15 Maxxis Victra. The ride quality is not great.
So next time i wanna buy some comfort+performance tire like A-drive in 195/55-15 size.
How is ride quality on S-drives? I have not experienced.
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Ride quality on S drives is supposed to be decent. If you are looking at outright ride comfort, look at the AVS db range. The thing is, the Getz CRDI is a very powerful vehicle. I wouldnt wholeheartedly recommend the A drives. You need proper grip at the high speeds it is capable of doing.

Maybe the Michelin Pilot Precedas? They are available in 205/55-15.
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Nikhil

Its just in the mind. My Getz runs on A drives and it has done 22k kms so far.
Haven't had any issues other than a few punctures.
Even the wear rate has been decent, Should last 35k kms minimum.

Will put up a detailed review of A drives soon.
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Prajesh, we'll be looking forward to your reviews on the A.drives.

Could the gurus also draw a detailed comparison (cost, life span, ride, etc.) of the A.drives with the XM1+, since I am looking to get 14" in size 195/60.

The XM1+ in 195/60-14 costs 4.5K, here in Mumbai.
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Ishan, I believe both the tires are silica-based, meaning that there'd be a sliiiiight boost in FE, correct? Either way, I don't care about it. I'm interested in how they compare as far as durability and ride comfort/handling (especially over rough terrain) go.

I'm not even considering each of their warranty periods.
I've answered this before and I'm going to say the same thing again, both tyres are very good, you can't go wrong with either of them.

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I know Ishaan that it is all marketing blabber but then i hope it isnt as bad as 1-2% increase only as you say.
I'm not much of a worrier about FE but I doubt the difference would be anything more than 1-2%, you're free to test it and post your own results though
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Is A Drive available in 185/60-13 for Indica V2? Also any idea about the cost. I am planning to change all 5 tyres very soon.
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