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Old 2nd July 2009, 19:30   #16
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Vivek,
Welcome to the Lenso Samurai club

How heavy do you find the steering is now ? Did you try driving a Baleno with 195 profile tyres ? I'm planning to upgrade from 195/60/R15 A-drives to 205/55/R15 PP2.
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Pretty predictive.
Especially since you're comparing 205mm Yokohama S-drives to 185 Goodyear GPS 2.
Sorry to be pedantic, but they are GT3s

@Vivek --- Nice review. I unfortunately, havent driven on S drives at all. Need to catch hold of a TBHPian and test it sometime soon!
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The Michelins are expensive and the neovas even more. In addition, the Neovas make you much slower in a straight line and last 1/3rd as long as the S drives.
how long do you think the S drives last ? 40000+ would make them a value buy - but i doubt that
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At what speed ?
But still, i find it hard to believe that ABS would kick in with just a gentle touch of brakes, even with JKs it shouldn't.
Speeds were around 130'ish. Wasn't very comfortable pushing it more.
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how long do you think the S drives last ? 40000+ would make them a value buy - but i doubt that
Advan Neovas should last 20,000 kms. So, According to Rippergeo, S Drives should last 60,000 kms which makes them astounding VFM for a sporty tyre.
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how long do you think the S drives last ? 40000+ would make them a value buy - but i doubt that
Not more than 30-35k under sedate driving.
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My PP2s with a treadwear rating of 240 are at 28k now and still have another 5k to go. This includes super hard driving and trackdays. S-Drives have a treadwear rating of 320. If they last only 35k of sedate driving, then its really sad.
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Thats a superb review of the S Drives and the tyres look absolutely yummy combined with those super looking copper alloys.

Enjoy the drive with the newfound grip
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Thats a great review of your new tyres and alloys Vivek. I just love to read your posts. Cheers for the great review.

Please do take care of your spirited cornering with new rubber. I know you are an expert insane driver in control.

We ll meet up for a first hand experience of the same.

Cheers
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Great Writeup , I also felt the steering to be somewhat heavy,but not as heavy as Vivek said, but that maybe because i am used to driving an Amby

I Still think 195s would have been enough the 205s looks good but it hogs the car down,the car felt seriously slow or maybe it was the less scary feeling due to better grip it's more predictable and mechanical now,the tyre noise is on a very high side, the only sad part about this tyre upgrade is that the car which was in shipshape before is going to develop a lot of squeaks and rattles due to the low profile rubber and 15"wheels, I think I heard some already.

Another Fellow Bhpian's Last Set of S Drives in 205 size in an LPG swift lasted 37,000KM with some Insane Drives done on them.
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how long do you think the S drives last ? 40000+ would make them a value buy - but i doubt that
How long did your ES100s last? Do you still have them?
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ES100s lasated 35k for me. Now have done around 5K on the Neovas seems like it will last pretty good.

Once you track a car then u cannot really comment on its life, a few laps on the track equals many a miles on the road.

I hope these tyres last good but what i hope for more is that the grip levels dont deteriorate towards the end of the their life. ES100s do, and it makes then precarious.
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Nice writeup bro .
I too have the S-drive on my swift.
Changing to S-drive from stock, made me feel what the actual "grip" is.
The car clearly stays in control even at high speeds of 180kph.
But have to check how long this tire lasts.
35000kms is pretty less is wat i feel.
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180 kmph in a Swift

If not for 205, are there any performance tyres like the PP2 for the 195/60/R15 size ?
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Ad07s can definitely last more than 20k if you take care of them well.

Have a look at the Advans running on my dad's car, Crazydiablo's car and Kartikkumar's Swift.

I wonder how many kms Binz's Balneo has done. He also has AD07s.

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180 kmph in a Swift

If not for 205, are there any performance tyres like the PP2 for the 195/60/R15 size ?
Nope. Nothing in 195/60 R15. You will have to go for 205/55 R 15 or 195/50 R15.
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