Tubeless Tyres ???? Naaa Enough!! How about Airless Tyres??? - Team-BHP

mohit · 5th January 2005, 11:43

There's an article on NY times on Tweel - the future of the wheel!

NY Times article

Shan2nu · 5th January 2005, 15:05

Only prob with this design is that choosing between ride quality and performanc will no longer be as easy as "changing the tyre pressure".

Somhow, i'm not convinced these tyres will ever see mass production.

Even if they're launched, they'd end up being pretty expensive.

The good thing about these tyres is that we will no longer have to worry about checking tyre pressure, or gettin the tyre blown at over 100 mph.

It's a good design but i don't think it's fool proof. It will have it's weak points.

Shan2nu

z klasse · 5th January 2005, 15:47

Good technology. But when it will come out on cars and how expensive it will be god alone knows. Buts its a fascinating thing.

Stratos · 12th February 2005, 20:22

Guyz.. found this link on supercars.net!! The link is worth looking at. Michelin have made the worlds first Wheel and Tyre combination without any usage of Air!!
Link: http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring...elin-tweel.htm

lamborghini · 13th February 2005, 02:31

read about it in autocar or something
i figure it will be pretty useful in india given the condition of our roads

Vulken Auto · 13th February 2005, 07:39

I also saw the article yesterday, but didnt bother much

drifter · 13th February 2005, 08:51

yeah ... i saw this in the autocar as well...but it looks kind of ugly...it should look like a normal tyre.

Drifter

PsychoLyn · 26th February 2005, 19:00

lovely article dudes....
thanx for the info....

Technocrat · 23rd March 2005, 11:05

Hi guys this was originally posted by an NRI(US Based) member of xBhp(id:LocalStuntRider).

Since its car stuff i thought I would share it with you all here

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I guess they are tesing these as we speak. Inner part is made out of flexable spokes.

I think they are flat UGLY probably wouldnt buy them like that, but im sure they will put some kinda side wall to cover the spokes.

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cream · 23rd March 2005, 12:18

hey,

that seems to be a great idea - remember seeing this somewhere.

at least, that will cover the problem of punctures for life - with no air in these tyres. looks like that would need some special fitment between the tyre and the wheel - maybe 1 piece. that's bad news for alloy manufacturers and style freaks.

and oh yeah, that look with the car in motion - looks like it's running on a set of bicycle wheels - they've gotta do something about that if anybody is going to buy them.

Gordon · 23rd March 2005, 14:31

what about turning?? the sidewall or spokes or whatever between the tyre and rim seems to be bending too much, which I think robs handling and performance.

aveek · 23rd March 2005, 17:43

Isn't there a limit to the flexibility of the spokes? There has to be a balance batween flexibility and rigidity, so what happens if you're drivin a REALLY heavy car/truck/pickup and you take a real sharp, wuick turn. Won't there be undue pressure on the spokes all of a sudden,a and then, won't they collapse?? Ad if not, won't ride quality be less than NIL, and won' the machine lose traction...??? This is definitely all thought of , but yeah, I'm still gonna ask.... hehe...
Ya, they are UUUUUGGGGGLLLYYYYY!!!! But I'm sure that if it comes to sellin em, the marketin guys will prolly put neons or fillin between the sspokes, or on top of the spokes so that it looks more accceptable and more sturdy (only to look at, and hecne will give immense satisfaction to an apprihansive customer...)

speedsatya · 23rd March 2005, 19:04

isnt this the new Michelin tire ,which will be fitted in a 7 series later.???????i think this has come in a recent OD or ACI issue

comfortablywacky · 23rd March 2005, 19:24

Guess its too early to coment on them...but as of now they look Ameteaur and <<<HORRRRRID>>> ....are those wheel chair tyres by any chance!??! .... nevertheless they will eliminate those cumbersome puntures permanently

turbo_lover · 23rd March 2005, 23:05

i am wondering how much of the suspension will be tweaked...those spokes look like the stiffness of the suspension has to be corrected accordingly .. i really dont know how they can manage a bigger sidewall .. as the spokes bend quite a bit ( in the 3rd pic...

cheers

5th January 2005, 11:43	#1 (permalink)
mohit BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto / Kurukshetra Posts: 333 View My Garage	Tubeless Tyres ???? Naaa Enough!! How about Airless Tyres??? There's an article on NY times on Tweel - the future of the wheel! NY Times article

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Shan2nu Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnataka - India Posts: 4,165 View My Garage	Only prob with this design is that choosing between ride quality and performanc will no longer be as easy as "changing the tyre pressure". Somhow, i'm not convinced these tyres will ever see mass production. Even if they're launched, they'd end up being pretty expensive. The good thing about these tyres is that we will no longer have to worry about checking tyre pressure, or gettin the tyre blown at over 100 mph. It's a good design but i don't think it's fool proof. It will have it's weak points. Shan2nu __________________ VTEC flyby - youtube.com/watch?v=1AhWJlVRPqE

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Stratos Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Jose, CA - Mumbai, MH Posts: 1,809 View My Garage	Tyres without AIR!! (Worthseeing) Guyz.. found this link on supercars.net!! The link is worth looking at. Michelin have made the worlds first Wheel and Tyre combination without any usage of Air!! Link: http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring...elin-tweel.htm __________________ Patience is the Key

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z klasse BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 341 View My Garage	Good technology. But when it will come out on cars and how expensive it will be god alone knows. Buts its a fascinating thing.

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drifter Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,298 View My Garage	yeah ... i saw this in the autocar as well...but it looks kind of ugly...it should look like a normal tyre. Drifter __________________ Slow Everything Down And Feel Like God - Tata Safari

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23rd March 2005, 11:05	#9 (permalink)
Technocrat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 3,970 View My Garage	Future of car tires Hi guys this was originally posted by an NRI(US Based) member of xBhp(id:LocalStuntRider). Since its car stuff i thought I would share it with you all here ************************************************ ************ I guess they are tesing these as we speak. Inner part is made out of flexable spokes. I think they are flat UGLY probably wouldnt buy them like that, but im sure they will put some kinda side wall to cover the spokes. 1 2 3 4 5 __________________ Racing Throttle Response

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cream BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 154	hey, that seems to be a great idea - remember seeing this somewhere. at least, that will cover the problem of punctures for life - with no air in these tyres. looks like that would need some special fitment between the tyre and the wheel - maybe 1 piece. that's bad news for alloy manufacturers and style freaks. and oh yeah, that look with the car in motion - looks like it's running on a set of bicycle wheels - they've gotta do something about that if anybody is going to buy them. __________________ to see the world in a grain of sand and heaven in a wild flower...hold infinity in the palm of your hand and eternity for an hour.

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Gordon Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,026 View My Garage	what about turning?? the sidewall or spokes or whatever between the tyre and rim seems to be bending too much, which I think robs handling and performance. __________________ Team-BHP.com > Motorbikes > Yamaha Cafe Racer

23rd March 2005, 17:43	#12 (permalink)
aveek BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 279	Isn't there a limit to the flexibility of the spokes? There has to be a balance batween flexibility and rigidity, so what happens if you're drivin a REALLY heavy car/truck/pickup and you take a real sharp, wuick turn. Won't there be undue pressure on the spokes all of a sudden,a and then, won't they collapse?? Ad if not, won't ride quality be less than NIL, and won' the machine lose traction...??? This is definitely all thought of , but yeah, I'm still gonna ask.... hehe... Ya, they are UUUUUGGGGGLLLYYYYY!!!! But I'm sure that if it comes to sellin em, the marketin guys will prolly put neons or fillin between the sspokes, or on top of the spokes so that it looks more accceptable and more sturdy (only to look at, and hecne will give immense satisfaction to an apprihansive customer...) __________________ Skill is, sucessfully tightrope walking across the Niagra Falls. Intelligence is, having the sense not to do it.

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speedsatya BANNED Join Date: May 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 1,882 View My Garage	isnt this the new Michelin tire ,which will be fitted in a 7 series later.???????i think this has come in a recent OD or ACI issue

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comfortablywacky BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 546	Guess its too early to coment on them...but as of now they look Ameteaur and <<<HORRRRRID>>> ....are those wheel chair tyres by any chance!??! .... nevertheless they will eliminate those cumbersome puntures permanently __________________ Regards, Gaurav *"I'm not lazy...just energy efficient!" ©*

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turbo_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Windsor Posts: 1,339	i am wondering how much of the suspension will be tweaked...those spokes look like the stiffness of the suspension has to be corrected accordingly .. i really dont know how they can manage a bigger sidewall .. as the spokes bend quite a bit ( in the 3rd pic... cheers __________________ Every weapon needs a master

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