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Old 5th September 2009, 00:23   #1
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Default 1996 Esteem VX Tyre Query

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My 1996 Carb Esteem VX is running 175/80/R13 MRF ZVTs Tube type Tyres.
Its now time to upgrade those tyres, both the rear tyres have got some issues and the car wobbles at lower speeds, even not stable at high speeds.
Car has got a Mechanical Steering and steer is too hard, harder than before makes drive uneasy and struggle at every turn

I have go the Shocks checked up by and Authorized Maruti Service Tech and they are good to use 8-10k kms more.

I have now decided to upgrade the Tyres, read lot of posts in this section regarding typre upsize, still I want some more valuable infomration from all you experts & Tech Guru's

I have shortlisted Bridgestone Potenza GIII tyres - 185/65/R13 on Stock Rims.

I want to know if that a right right tyre upsize, Iam looking for good breaking, handling Grip, High speed stability, should be able to take smooth turns at 130+, please suggest me a good Tyre dealer in bangalore and what would be the approx price of each tyre.

I need to upgrade the rubber as soon as possible because the car i skept unused.
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well if you want a very good grip go for 190 or 195/65 R13 and get michelin or yokohama tyres with it this should be ideal for the use you want them for.
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Few post say that 195/65 R13 may not be a right tyre up size and it may result in handling issues and steer hard, experts should correct me if am wrong
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Few post say that 195/65 R13 may not be a right tyre up size and it may result in handling issues and steer hard, experts should correct me if am wrong

It would steer hard but at a speed of 130kmph how much do you plan to steer its more important to have a better road grip at that point specially on uneven surface or wet surfaces.
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It would steer hard but at a speed of 130kmph how much do you plan to steer its more important to have a better road grip at that point specially on uneven surface or wet surfaces.
Yes grip on wet and uneven surfaces is very important
If 195/65 R13 is the right tyre up size then yes i can certainly choose the same
Which Tyre do you suggest - Bridgestone GIII or Yokohama S-Drives ??
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A couple of threads that may help you...

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ghlight=Esteem (Tyres / Rim Size For An Esteem !)

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ghlight=Esteem (Tyre Upsize for 2006 Esteem-Lxi)

Personally- Wouldn't even think of fitting 195 on 4.5J Stock rim. Its way too narrow & 195/65 is the wrong profile. 185 & XM1+ will do a good job in the range that you are looking for, much better than GIIIs.

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Bhargava, the Potenza GIII's are a noisy set, I think S Drives will be better.
PM Nikhilb2008 or iraghava, they'll be able to help you.
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Yes grip on wet and uneven surfaces is very important
If 195/65 R13 is the right tyre up size then yes i can certainly choose the same
Which Tyre do you suggest - Bridgestone GIII or Yokohama S-Drives ??
You need the grip when you want to do high speeds.

Well Bridgestone tyres are good but they are soft so they might wear out faster i would think paying a little more for Yokohama S-drives and having them run more a much longer time would be a better bet any day.
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Bhargava, the '96 Esteem has 65 BHP and no power steering. A 195 width is really overkill for the car, the suspension gives up way before the tyres do. A 185mm tyre is perfect (was running the same on my '96 Esteem).
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Bhargava, the '96 Esteem has 65 BHP and no power steering. A 195 width is really overkill for the car, the suspension gives up way before the tyres do. A 185mm tyre is perfect (was running the same on my '96 Esteem).
96 Carb Esteem - 65Bhp
I was under false impression that its 85Bhp
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You need the grip when you want to do high speeds.

Well Bridgestone tyres are good but they are soft so they might wear out faster i would think paying a little more for Yokohama S-drives and having them run more a much longer time would be a better bet any day.
Then I will stick on to 185/65/R13 - Yokohoma S Drives
Now I am not sure if we have R13 in Yoko S Drives ??
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I doubt if you'll get S-Drives in that size.
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According to Yoko Website S Drive starts from 185/55R15, so I will have no option for Yokos.

I still not satisfied with by Maruti Service Guy when he said Rear left Tyre issue is wobbling the car, According to him Shocks and Rims is fine.
Friends is there any best place in Bangalore to check my Car Tyres, Rims and Shocks and then I can decide based upon the results.

Tyres were running absolutely fine, I still suspect RIM fault.
Still I want to narrow down to best rubber/Size I can fit to my car.
One in the top list is - Bridgestone Potenza G-II 185/65/R13
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According to Yoko Website S Drive starts from 185/55R15, so I will have no option for Yokos.

I still not satisfied with by Maruti Service Guy when he said Rear left Tyre issue is wobbling the car, According to him Shocks and Rims is fine.
Friends is there any best place in Bangalore to check my Car Tyres, Rims and Shocks and then I can decide based upon the results.

Tyres were running absolutely fine, I still suspect RIM fault.
Still I want to narrow down to best rubber/Size I can fit to my car.
One in the top list is - Bridgestone Potenza G-II 185/65/R13

See this problem is quite prominent in esteem and zen than any other car.The problem is with thwheel alignments as well as the wheel balancing just take it to a big tyre shop and get it checked or else do it at home inter change the tyre with a stepny or rotate the tyres.If the problem is still there on that side then its a alignment issue other wise its the wheel balancing
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Thanks Indrojit,
I have already tried interchanged the tyres, done wheel balancing and alignment - problem is still there
I still need to check with a big tyre shop as you suggested
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