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Old 14th September 2009, 17:19   #1
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Unhappy Toughest sidewall...I am confused

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As part of my Raid-de-Himalaya preparation, I am looking at deciding whether to change exisiting Michelin 185/65/R-14 XM1+ tyres (10000 KMs old) or buy new shoes with tougher sidewall (?)

Request your views and suggestions. Thanks.
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Old 14th September 2009, 17:24   #2
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MRFs and Bridgestone Turanza ER60 !

Turanza ER60 are not available in 185/65-14. You will have to get 195/60-14.
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MRFs and Bridgestone Turanza ER60 !

Turanza ER60 are not available in 185/65-14. You will have to get 195/60-14.
which MRFs do you suggest?
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Old 15th September 2009, 02:02   #4
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which MRFs do you suggest?
hmm... if you _have_ to go for MRF, I'd suggest ZVTS, however be prepared for some scary moments as the grip levels are just not there due to the hard rubber!
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check out dunlop direzzas. they have rim protector sidewalls. quite tough and grippy. check out your sizes.
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The tyre is for which car? Cedia?

kutlee; wont the Dunlops be bit soft for this kind of journey?
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Old 15th September 2009, 10:57   #7
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if its a question of toughness alone, and grip is not a priority, the S322's are kinda good too
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MRFs, Apollo Amazers, Bridgestone S322s.

The ER60s are not as hard as this. They are harder than the XM1+, but nowhere close to these tyres.

Food for thought. Vikram_d made it to Leh and back from Bangalore on his Swift with 195/60 R!5 Continental ContiPremiumContact2s. You really want to compromise on grip, comfort etc for the Leh trip? With a bit of care Im sure even XM1+s can handle the roads to Leh and back.
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which MRFs do you suggest?
Any MRF tire can take more abuse than any Michelin/ Yokos but don't expect much in terms of grip levels on good tarmacs.
In 185/65-14 you will get MRF ZV2K. I'm not sure about ZVTS.
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hmm... if you _have_ to go for MRF, I'd suggest ZVTS, however be prepared for some scary moments as the grip levels are just not there due to the hard rubber!

But, ZVTS are good on dirt. On good tarmacs they lock up easily.
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The tyre is for which car? Cedia?
By size it should be for the Palio. Cedia has 15" wheels.
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if its a question of toughness alone, and grip is not a priority, the S322's are kinda good too
S322 are good in terms of wear rate (can last a lifetime if u wish to )but they don't have the toughest sidewall.
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Food for thought. Vikram_d made it to Leh and back from Bangalore on his Swift with 195/60 R!5 Continental ContiPremiumContact2s. You really want to compromise on grip, comfort etc for the Leh trip? With a bit of care Im sure even XM1+s can handle the roads to Leh and back.
Thats indeed an incredible achievement.

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If you're for a tough tyre, nothing can beat the Indian makes. But you also compromise on grip.
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The tyre is for which car? Cedia?

kutlee; wont the Dunlops be bit soft for this kind of journey?
the question is only on sidewalls. so i said. overall toughness, may be MRF.
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The tyre is for which car? Cedia?

kutlee; wont the Dunlops be bit soft for this kind of journey?
This is for Palio GTX
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Choose the Indian brands for sheer toughness. For everything else (read as grip, braking, feedback etc.) choose imported.
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I agree. One of the virtues of Radials are their soft side-walls. If you can get some 'Run Flat' tyres in your size then you will get stiff side-walls, as well as the bonus of some flexibility in when to fix a flat. Another possibility will be to go Cross Ply (if they still exist).
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I agree. One of the virtues of Radials are their soft side-walls. If you can get some 'Run Flat' tyres in your size then you will get stiff side-walls, as well as the bonus of some flexibility in when to fix a flat. Another possibility will be to go Cross Ply (if they still exist).
With Cross Ply tyres he'll be picking up punctures faster than he can repair them. And runflats will cost him a bomb, not to mention that in the event of a puncture and driving it for a bit the tyre will be destroyed and rendered useless.
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