Go Back   Team-BHP > Under the Hood > Modifications & Accessories > Tyre & Alloy wheel Section


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 2nd August 2005, 15:43   #1
Team-BHP Support
 
Samurai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: B'lore-Manipal
Posts: 22,234
Thanked: 13,980 Times
Default Upgrading wheels/tyres on Santro

Now that my new Baleno is decked up with 195/60R14 Yokohamas on BSA alloys, my wife's Santro is feeling ignored.

Now, many of you may turn up your noses at the mention of automatic transmission. But the fact is when driven properly, it can hold it's own. It may not be quick to accelerate or have much passing power, but it can go fast when needed. However, I have never been happy about it's tyre grip. I remember skidding all the time when I was driving the ghats last year on a tyres with just 5K on it, now it has 15K.

Now my wife wants to keep it for 15 years or until it kicks the bucket. Since I end up driving it everyday, I might as well do something to make the drive better. BTW, I drive Santro before lunch and Baleno after lunch. I follow this strange practice because, it is much easier to drive the Santro during the morning rush to my son's school through one narrow road full of pedestrians. My afternoon drive is much more relaxed.

So I want to move it to tubeless on alloys, what else...

What is the best upgrade for Santro Xing, has anyone done it? The stock is 155/70R13, would it make sense to upsize the rim to a 14" alloys? Regarding width, how much is good, 165 or 175? What model tyres?
Samurai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2005, 20:23   #2
BHPian
 
pranil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Navi Mumbai
Posts: 153
Thanked: 2 Times
Post Upgrade tyre

I am using Goodyear Eagle 3 Tubless 165/65 for last three years.

Sugessted by my brother law who is in Goodyear. No problems os far. and yes they do immensely improve the grip. So much that when I drove a stock xing i felt like the rear was slipping under me.

should cost u between 1700 to 2100 with discount per piece
pranil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2005, 20:35   #3
Senior - BHPian
 
speedsatya's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: bangalore/manga
Posts: 3,161
Thanked: 706 Times
Default

i have driven a santro with 175/60 r13 in mangalore.the ride was a bit on the hard side,but the handling was superbbb.
speedsatya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd August 2005, 11:54   #4
BHPian
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Pune
Posts: 34
Thanked: 7 Times
Default

I too am using 165/65R13 bridgestone donuts on my santro LE 1999 for the past 6 months or so and the ride has improved dramatically.. can take turns a lot faster.
I wanted to upsize to 175 but wasnt sure of the increased effort in steering (since my santro doesn't have power steering).
I have seen a couple of santro's running 175's but i guess the ride would be a bit harder.
numerouno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th August 2005, 15:59   #5
BHPian
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 93
Thanked: 8 Times
Default Alloys For Santro

Guys,

I own a Santro (2000 model) which has completed 35000 kms.
Sometime back I notices the wear and tear of tyres (especially right frontand right back tyres).

So I want to change tyres to tubeless one.
which are the best tubeless tyres available for Santro (And Approximate cost) ?

Should I opt for current rims with tubeless tyres or should I go for tubeless tyres with alloy rims?

Also which is the good brand (and approximate cost) for alloy wheels?


please guide me regarding the same.

Thanks,
amit.
F1amit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th September 2005, 22:12   #6
Team-BHP Support
 
Samurai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: B'lore-Manipal
Posts: 22,234
Thanked: 13,980 Times
Default

Just upgraded my wife's Santro Xing Automatic to 165/65R13 Hankook Optimos on Aura alloys.

The exact alloy model is as follows, except it is of a darker tint.


Paid only Rs.9000 for the 5 set alloys since it was used alloys (has run 1500Kms) from a stock Baleno Vxi. That's like 6000 bucks savings. The Hankooks cost me 2350 per tyre. Paid 50% for the installation, balancing and alignment.

As I started driving the car with new footware, I was literally taken aback by the amazing improvement in ride quality, it has more than doubled, the new tyres literally glide over the pothole chains. I didn't expect this kind of amazing improvement over the usually harsh ride on some of the roads. My wife couldn't believe the quantum leap in ride comfort since I had not promised any improvement. Then came the performance, it just took off like a sprinter and was much more peppy. It is just amazing how changing tyres totally changes the attributes of the car.

Until today our Santro drove around like a old man, and today it feels like a 18 year old.
Samurai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th October 2005, 00:42   #7
BHPian
 
Conan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 223
Thanked: 0 Times
Post

Samurai, Can the same tyre upgrades be done to a wagonr. I have a stock wagonr vxi.

Conan
Conan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st November 2005, 18:22   #8
Team-BHP Support
 
Samurai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: B'lore-Manipal
Posts: 22,234
Thanked: 13,980 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Conan
Samurai, Can the same tyre upgrades be done to a wagonr. I have a stock wagonr vxi.
Conan
Oh, didn't see this question. What is the stock tyre on your WagonR?
Samurai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st November 2005, 18:28   #9
BHPian
 
Conan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 223
Thanked: 0 Times
Default

Well the stock tyres in a wagonr Vxi is 155/65R13.
Hence the ideal upgrades after researching came up to,
165/60R13 or 185/55R13. Dont know if they fit in properly inside the tyre well.
Let us know as to where you bought the alloys and tyres in bangalore.

Conan
Conan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st November 2005, 18:54   #10
Team-BHP Support
 
Samurai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: B'lore-Manipal
Posts: 22,234
Thanked: 13,980 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Conan
Well the stock tyres in a wagonr Vxi is 155/65R13.
Hence the ideal upgrades after researching came up to,
165/60R13 or 185/55R13.
Your best bet is 165/60R13 Tubeless on 5J Alloys. The 185/55 would severely affect your ride comfort. Although 165/60 doesn't sound like much of an upgrade, the difference will be major. The difference comes from the reduction in unsprung weight (due to lighter rim) and softer tubeless tyre compound.
Samurai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st November 2005, 18:58   #11
Senior - BHPian
 
speedsatya's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: bangalore/manga
Posts: 3,161
Thanked: 706 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai
Your best bet is 165/60R13 Tubeless on 5J Alloys. The 185/55 would severely affect your ride comfort. Although 165/60 doesn't sound like much of an upgrade, the difference will be major. The difference comes from the reduction in unsprung weight (due to lighter rim) and softer tubeless tyre compound.


the ride will deteriorate on bad roads ....but the grip will be awesome...go for the G3's ...they are the best...and yeah ...stick to 5j rims..
speedsatya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st November 2005, 19:00   #12
Team-BHP Support
 
Samurai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: B'lore-Manipal
Posts: 22,234
Thanked: 13,980 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by speedsatya
the ride will deteriorate on bad roads ....but the grip will be awesome...
In Bangalore we have only one kind of road, BAD. Surely you must have noticed by now...
Samurai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th November 2005, 22:37   #13
BHPian
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: delhi
Posts: 44
Thanked: 3 Times
Default Bigger tyre on santro :: pros and cons

Santros have 155/70 R13 tyres, what are the pros and cons of fitting and 155/70 R14 (not sure if 155/70 R14 is aviable)

what i understand by making tyres bigger, it will increase top speed, decrease acceralation, improve ride quality, improve fuel efficency.

Or should i go for wider 13" tyres

Last edited by max8791 : 26th November 2005 at 22:45.
max8791 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th November 2005, 23:14   #14
Distinguished - BHPian
 
jkdas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Thiruvananthapu
Posts: 9,649
Thanked: 1,372 Times
Default

Glad that you made a thread just for Santro. Let me too add some doubts that I have.

1. Would using Alloys + Existing 155/70 R13 improve handling/comfort
2. If not, the next best bet
3. If i have to get another set of new tyres with alloys, will one seller buy the used (done 5k) tyres?

Last edited by jkdas : 26th November 2005 at 23:15.
jkdas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th November 2005, 23:44   #15
Team-BHP Support
 
Samurai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: B'lore-Manipal
Posts: 22,234
Thanked: 13,980 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by max8791
Santros have 155/70 R13 tyres, what are the pros and cons of fitting and 155/70 R14 (not sure if 155/70 R14 is aviable)
Not a good upgrade. It will increase the height by 12.6mm and would affect the handling of the vehicle, and will have 4.64% speedo error.

Your proper choices are:

165/65R13: Wider tyres, lower profile improves handling.
175/60R13: Try this only if you have power steering, great handling, but harsh ride.
175/55R14 or 185/50R14: Well, try this only if you have great roads & power steering. Ride will be really harsh.

All the above choices will have minimal effect on speedometer reading and rolling radius.

However, switching to tubeless will improve ride because of softer compound.
Switching to alloys reduces unsprung weight, would improve performance.
Samurai is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wheels & Tyres : Speed Tyres (Kochi) Soccerfan Other Cities 11 27th March 2015 12:36
Upgrading from santro - clash of the titans - Innova vs Safari Makesh What Car? 46 15th January 2010 14:55
One question about tyres of Old Santro and New Santro Xing DDGuy Tyre & Alloy wheel Section 5 12th November 2008 13:35
Santro Limited Edition alloy wheels and tyres for sale: Sankar Shifting gears 3 23rd July 2007 16:20
upgrading tyres and alloys for swift vxi in chennai ravisak Tyre & Alloy wheel Section 8 9th September 2006 20:30


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 10:24.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks