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Old 12th November 2009, 16:27   #1
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I have a Indica 2006 V2 DLX which has 165/65/R14 Goodyear Tyre. But just after six months and till today I have several flat Tyre. I really lost count of the same. recently I changed (September) all the tubes with Iyengar Tyres, Bangalore(Indiranagar). They used metro tubes as they did not had Goodyear.

And already I had two flat Tyres in 3 months. I am not sure what to do?

According to TATA (Prerana) and Iyengar Techies my tyres are in good shape after 26k and there is no need to change them for another 15K KM.

Only consolation I have is I never had that bad experience during my highway trips. Last weekend I drop to Tirupati.

I am really frustrated with the situation. I am thinking to change the car in another two years. Only option is spending on new tubeless tyre and alloys but do you suggest that ?
As I might not get much for my current tyre.

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Old 12th November 2009, 18:11   #2
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Is this happening for the same wheel over and over again? May not be the right comparison, but I had a TVS champ moped during school which used to have several flat because of some misaligned spoke or something. If it is the same wheel everytime, then you can check with some tyre shop and find out some cheap deal to buy stock rims that get exchanged with them.

If its not the same wheel, and since you say it never happens on highways, take a friend along and scour your daily drive route. Some old scrap shop or some road side garage might be the culprit.
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Well I can not say the daily road as I moved from Navi-Mumbai to Bangalore almost 18 months back. And there is not much to complain about the daily commute.

This is not specific to one wheel.

I see suggested upgrade would be 175/60/14 but any other suggestion experts. I lost faith in tyre shop for sure.
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Old 12th November 2009, 20:49   #4
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What is the culprit? Is it some foreign object always or is it the tube tearing?

What is the tyre pressure that you maintain? Try and inflate to 30 psi and checkout
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Old 12th November 2009, 21:28   #5
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Tsixty - as Dinu has suggested we need to know what caused the puncture. Is it caused by foreign object (like nails, small iron particles) or is it because of seems giving away?

I would recommend you to take the car to a good tyre dealer and have them check your tyre. Check for uneven thread wear and that might cause small particles in the road to puncture the tyre at that location. The A.S.S cannot be trusted in this as they are not the experts. You need the specialist to check the tyres. I wont recommend doing a wheel alignment /balancing with them. I always take my car to the tyre specialist.
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Have you checked the tyres for any small nails/sharp objects, that could be repeatedly puncturing the tyre?
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As I mentioned took the car to Iyengar Tyres and they did a complete wheel rotation, balance and alignments in September. And I hope they did not a complete check of inside as they said :(

Any other place near Indiranagar, Bangalore you suggest.
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1). As someone said, is there a nail or any foreign object inside the tyre which hasnt been noticed?

2). Have you checked the valve pins?

3). Can you 100% rule out mischief by roadside urchins and other boys?

4). When you got the punctures repaired, how big were those punctures and where were they? If they were too big, then if the tyre shop guys put a patch, it may not have held. If the puncture was on oneof the joints of the tube, the patch wouldnt have held again.

5). I've never heard of this Metro tubes. At least you could have gone for Mypol. It is true that getting Goodyear tubes in the market is nearly impossible, but Mypol is good. They are the OEM manufacturers for Ceat and Goodyear.

6). This has nothing to do with wheel balancing, rotation, alignment.

7). Are any of your tyres damaged even slightly? Because if one tyre is cut slightly from the inside, it could be rubbing against the tube and causing the tube to open up again and again.

8). How is your rim? If you rim is badly rusted, the same thing can happen. The rust can have an abrasive action on the tubes damaging them.
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I've never heard of this Metro tubes.
I think he's bought Metro Continental tubes.Fairly good quality tubes,so no cause for worry there.
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Aaah.... Those are decent. I thought he was palmed off one of those usual no-name tubes.
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@Tsixty1 - For complete peace of mind, change all tyres.Either the GPS2 165/65 R13s have a defective design, or for some reason they do not gel well with Indica rims. My 2005 Indica DLS came with the same tyres, and I've lost count of the number of punctures it had. I've changed tubes numerous times, but the punctures just kept on repeating.

Ultimately in 2008 I changed to Yokohama A-drive tubeless (same size). The puncture problem has completely gone away now, and the car's ride has considerably improved.

(As a counterpoint, GPS2s do not seem to have such problems on other cars. I know someone who runs 165/65 R13 GPS2s on his 10 year old zen, and the tyres are running problem free.)
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@Tsixty1: I had the same problem with my indica too. I consulted with other indica owners and found out that the stock rims are totally useless and of very poor strength. I cured my problem by fitting alloy wheels shod with 185/60 r13 rubber. didnt have a puncture now more than 25k's. hope it helps you.
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One issue I heard from indica and Indigo owners is both cars used to come with poor quality RIMS. My feeling is If you want to change tyre you might need alloys too. Buying tube tyre again won't make sense.

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TSixty1,

IMO there is no need to change your wheels to alloys. You will get lot of steel wheels for a song. better change to a new set of wheels as well as new set of tubeless tyres. This should solve your problem once and for all.
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Just make sure that if the rims are bent then you get them back to proper shape.

I do not know as I have not personally seen but sometimes the tyre guys get some part of the rim welded and the problem of puncture goes away. Hope this helps.
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