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Old 24th December 2009, 14:07   #1
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Hi Ppl!

I have booked a Laura TSI which comes in the ambiente Trim and am expecting delivery before the year end.

Now this vehicle comes with stock Alloys of size 6.5J X 15" and tyres of size 195/65 R15 - Make: Goodyear NCT 5.

Having done a few TDs of this model I found the Stock tyres to be completely in-adequate and an upgrade/upsize is certainly in order.

The tyres would have to do justice to the 160 BHP of the TSI engine and 1965 Kgs of gross weight of the vehicle.

Now other factors that come to mind are: How would a rim upsizing effect the Odo readings and FE. Also considering the Engine hardly whispers at 140 how would a tyre change/ retain the NVH experience.

What would be the right tyres for someone whose top priority is:
a) Comfort with Sane driving.
b) Comfort with maybe some aspirations of making it to a Grand Prix, not compromising a lot on NVH.
c) Insane Driving, and no consideration for NVH

Tyre Gurus: Kindly Suggest.

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-Vishwa.

Mods PS: After having gone through the threads Tyres for a Laura and Tyres for a Laura Ambiente I reckon a thread for the TSI was warranted. Kindly merge with an existing thread if appropriate.
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First of all, this car has an insane engine. No matter wat tires u get there's every possibility the torque steer will still exist.
Anyways, coming to the tires, 205/60-15 would be an apt upgrade on stock alloys. No need to worry about odo reading etc.
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a) Comfort with Sane driving.
b) Comfort with maybe some aspirations of making it to a Grand Prix, not compromising a lot on NVH.
c) Insane Driving, and no consideration for NVH
a.) Michelin XM1 or yoko v550
b) Michelin primacy LC
c) Michelin pilot preceda pp2

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XM1+ for a 160 BHP car? :o

PP2 is out of production, so forget it.

I would suggest 205/60 R15 Conti CPC2. If it will fit in the wheel well, then 205/65 R15 too.

Primacy LC is supremely comfortable, but wont grip as well as the CPC2.

So, for oyur questions

a). Primacy LC in 195/65 R15. If you really really want to, then 205/60 R15 Michelin XM1+. I still dont suggest it for a 160 bhp car though.

b). Conti CPC2. Simple. No doubts there.

c). Not available in the correct upsize, but 205/55 R15 Advan Neovas. 205/55 R15 is a wrong size. What you can do is to get 16" rims and get 205/55 R16 AD07s.

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Nikhil- how come you suggest him not to upsize to even 205 while you suggested I get 225 in the superb? both these cars have the same engine and output !

Btw, I checked the Michelin they said LC does not come in 225/50-16 ?!?
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Nikhil
1. XM1 and 160bhp car logic is not right IMO. When the manufacturer can give goodyear NCT5s for this insane car, the XM1s are much superior to them in all aspect. I guess u would agree with me on that
2. Pilot preceda is out of production but lot of stock still available here..

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Because his is 15". In 15", he would have to go for 205/55 R15 which is a rare size. Almost no options from the mainstream manufacturers.

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1. XM1 and 160bhp car logic is not right IMO. When the manufacturer can give goodyear NCT5s for this insane car, that the XM1s are much superior to them in all aspect. I guess u would agree with me on that
2. Pilot preceda is out of production but lot of stock still available here..
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Hehe. Yes. I agree 100% on that KPji. However, I would suggest he still gets something else.

I assume he's buying from B'lore or Madras. I can assure you, there is no stock of 205/60 R15 PP2s anywhere. If it's there, it's older than 2 years.

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OT: The reason to choose the TSI over the PDI was to leave room for some enthusiatic stepping on the accelerator pedal and avoid the NVH.

Wouldn't the 205/60 R15 get a lil too high in terms of profile (Sidewall 123) and compromise cornering? Agreed its only 10 mm more than say a 205/55 or a 225/50. Like Sahil mentioned an Upsizing to 16" was on my wishlist. Does it make sense to save on the Rim Upsizing and stick with 15"s? Ideally I would have liked to go overboard and get 17" but the craters for potholes with some asphalt here and there that we have here in Bangalore for roads make it a complete NO NO.

So stick with 15"s or go for 16"s? And in what sizes and what make? I was thinking 205/55 16 or may be even 225/50 16. I reckoned these might help with traction.
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I have up sized my Skoda Octavia 1.8TPI to 205/55 R16 Goodyear NCT. Did the up size at the time of taking delivery from the showroom. The grip and handling is very good with 205/55 R16.

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If you could, then get 225/50 R16 in Conti CPC2. For now, that is the best tyre you can get in that size.
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If you could, then get 225/50 R16 in Conti CPC2. For now, that is the best tyre you can get in that size.
Any Idea on pricing for the same in bangalore? Considering I would wanna exchange what would be the buyback price of the good years of size 205/55 R16 after I do the upsizing of the 15"s from the dealer.

Thanks Nikhil!!!
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A little less than 9k. Around 8.9 or so.

Buyback of 205/55 R16? From where?

You need alloys of 16" and that would cost you around 26k or so. However, let me try to find out about alloys for Laura. Laura has a very wierd PCD. It has a 112mm PCD. Not many alloys in that.

Actually, I kinda forgot about the PCD of Laura. It will be quite difficult for you to get good alloys for Laura in 16".

My revised suggestion is that you stick to 15" and go for 205/60 R15 in Conti CPC2. This is lower profile than the 195/65 R15 so ground clearance will be affected slightly. Cornering will not be affected at all. It will improve as you have 10 mm extra now.
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I am planning to Upsize the alloys at the dealers end on delivery, along with the tyres ofcourse which would be the Goodyear NCT5 tyres of 205/55 R16.

Subsequently I am planning to exchange the tyres with 225/50 R16, and these would in all probability be Contis like you suggested earlier.

An earlier post by me : http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...thread-24.html

Ps: would the 6.5J Rims accomodate 225s?
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I am planning to Upsize the alloys at the dealers end on delivery, along with the tyres ofcourse which would be the Goodyear NCT5 tyres of 205/55 R16.

Subsequently I am planning to exchange the tyres with 225/50 R16, and these would in all probability be Contis like you suggested earlier.

An earlier post by me : http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...thread-24.html

Ps: would the 6.5J Rims accomodate 225s?
which tires & wheels have u gone for?
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PP2 is out of production, so forget it.
PP2 out of production? are they removing a new model?
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Default Re: Tyres for Laura 1.8 TSI - Ambiente Trim

Will get delivery of my TSI over the next week or so. On upgrading tyres, can someone from Bangalore share their experience on how much the marginally decreased GC with 205/60/15 affects them over the Godawful bumps here? Laura's GC is just about adequate and am still in a fix on whether I should upgrade tyres to 205/60 or to 205/65 (in which case the profile may become too tall affecting cornering). Am not looking to upgrade rims and if there's a GC problem, may ditch the tyre upgrade too.
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