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Old 27th September 2005, 19:02   #31
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Try and check with another known tyre shop for the balancing and alignment. Maybe the guy here isnt owning up - it should not and cannot be the suspension giving way before 10K Kms.

where did u get ur tyres from BHP ?

try out saifee at santacruz - he is good.

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i have already checked the same with 3 tyre shops and one of them is a specialist in this field . and all of them say that the front studs have weakened a bit . i have just clocked 11k . i have got my tyres frm j.c tyres located at indian oil in andheri (w) .
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Old 15th March 2006, 12:06   #32
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Guys - continuing on my earlier thread (which has been moved here)... I have bought original Bridgestone 'Tubeless' Tyres from a dealer in Khar. But someone showed me a marking on the tyre "Tube Type". I will try and get an explanation from the dealer shortly. Anyone else got this issue ?

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Old 15th March 2006, 19:27   #33
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dude...chill.....its ok
u know what many a times the new model tyres are actually tubeless but since u dont rum them on alloys they are fitted with a tube just for safety.......
since uve gotten alloys put on maybe thats why ur running them without tubes...
and yes tubeless tyres anyways need those valves that u have put on
but to be safe just post the size and model of ur tyres and we will let u know how safe u are...
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i am sorry i am replying to this post quite late, but you can fit tubeless even on rims, and most tire shops advise people out of ignorance that you NEED to fit a tube in a tire even if it is tubeless...

there is no safety issue if you run tubeless on rims....
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Old 25th September 2006, 09:02   #34
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Question Tubed tubeless?

Hi,
I actually came here looking for some specific answers, and since I didnt get them (I have already tried searching the tyre manufacturer's websites) I thought I would rephrase the question.

From what I have come to know recently, most tyres can be used without tubes, provided they have an inner lining (rubber coating) that prevents leakage of air. However, some tyre "experts" are of the opinion that if you run a tubed tyre in the tubeless mode, you will have to put in a tube once the tyre gets a puncture, as the method used for repairing tubeless tyres in case of punctures will not work on these tyres (maybe because the thickness of the tyre or the compound used is different). Does anyone have any idea regarding the truth of this statement? I do know for a fact that a number of vehicles in my city are running in the tubeless mode using tyres that were designed to run with a tube.
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Old 28th September 2006, 01:41   #35
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Guys - continuing on my earlier thread (which has been moved here)... I have bought original Bridgestone 'Tubeless' Tyres from a dealer in Khar. But someone showed me a marking on the tyre "Tube Type". I will try and get an explanation from the dealer shortly. Anyone else got this issue ?

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Tubeless will generally say it clearly "tubeless radial" on the sidewall..so this gentleman has actually sold you tube type tyres...
Generally should not be a big issue running them without tube..
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Old 28th September 2006, 02:57   #36
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Ok... so I started reading this thread a bit late in the day. So BHP, you did what you said? You sold those tires. You mean those jugad waale tires are now running on some other car?!!! India... there's always a sucker available nearby, waiting to wear that monkey cap I guess. ROTFLMAO
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i am sorry i am replying to this post quite late, but you can fit tubeless even on rims, and most tire shops advise people out of ignorance that you NEED to fit a tube in a tire even if it is tubeless...

there is no safety issue if you run tubeless on rims....
there's no issue running tubeless tyres on steel rims..untill you hit a pothole/stone/rock or any other randon debris common on our roads and your rim gets bent.......Once this happens, the sealing between the rim and the tyre could be idamaged and your tyre may not hold air...

In this case the advantage with an alloy rim is that they have higher resistance to bending/distortion and thus there are less chances of them getting 'bent' out of shape .

Thats probably why most dealers reccommend tube type tyres on steel rims. However, till the time that yor rim doesnt get damaged..which could be never, tubeless tyres will perform perfectly!! and then you can always add a tube..
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Tubeless will generally say it clearly "tubeless radial" on the sidewall..so this gentleman has actually sold you tube type tyres...
Generally should not be a big issue running them without tube..
I am not at all sure about this. You may find a huge difference in handling at high speeds. Tubeless tyres will deform less under sharp cornering as compared to tubed tyres. The tubed tyres (with tubes present) will deform more and so will give a more comfortable ride at low speeds, while beoming more unsafe/less comfortable at higher speeds.

If you take out the tubes from the tubed tyres, and drive/corner at high speeds, you are running the tyres under a situation for which they were not designed -- they will have to take *much* higher stresses than if tubes were present. So I would definitely argue against risking lives by irrational acts like taking out tubes from tubetype tyres -- at least not without expert advice. In particular, it is a must to consult the tyre manufacturer on these issues. It is possible that you may get away with this for a while, but you need to worry about what happens over an extended period of time in which you put the tubetype tyres to severe stresses without the tubes-- for example, the tyre may burst after 10000 kms of high-speed driving over a period of time.
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Old 30th September 2006, 13:18   #39
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Ok... so I started reading this thread a bit late in the day. So BHP, you did what you said? You sold those tires. You mean those jugad waale tires are now running on some other car?!!! India... there's always a sucker available nearby, waiting to wear that monkey cap I guess. ROTFLMAO
no dude i had sold them with the tube.....i wouldnt like to risk anyone else which i know its causes

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Guys, there is far more to a tubeless tyre than simply removing the tube!

The construction of tubed and tubeless tyres are different. A tubeless tyre has far stronger beads which are what seals the air within the tyre and the rim. A tyre designed for tubed use will have its beads constructed in a different pattern. It will not be safe to run a tubed tyre as a tubeless (even if it does manage to seal the air in).

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The tubed tyres (with tubes present) will deform more and so will give a more comfortable ride at low speeds, while beoming more unsafe/less comfortable at higher speeds.
rks, this is not true. Comfort of a tyre has less to do with tubed/tubeless and more to do with the tyre itself, the profile, the ratings etc. But yes, a tubeless tyre does have to have a stiffer sidewall.
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Default converting ordinary tyres to tubeless ones.

When one of my car's tyres got punctured,my tyre shop persons inspected the tube.It was completely worn.They advised me not to buy a new tube,but to convert my tyre to a tubeless one!
They changed the neck of the tyre and filled the air into the tubeless tyre(my old tyre without tube).Now it is running ok.But is this a scientific way? help me.

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Which tyre is it? Give details of that and then we can comment.
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They changed the neck of the tyre
Either I'm missing something here or this is the height of jugaad . Plz post a pic of this neck for our enlightenment casreeni.
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Either I'm missing something here or this is the height of jugaad . Plz post a pic of this neck for our enlightenment casreeni.
I think he means a normal tubeless neck. But this is unacceptable if the tyre is not meant to be tubeless. Some tubetype tyres and identical in construction to their tubetype counterparts and can be used without the tube. Like some sizes of the BS S322, some MRFs, etc...
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Pls. park your car and get the tubes back on.
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