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Old 5th November 2008, 14:01   #136
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can someone please tell me whether 155/65 R12 and 155/65 R13 provide the same grip levels and comfort?
155/65 R13 best upsize for Alto. -1% error.

Have drive 155/65 R13 XM1 on plati rims with 5 adults. NO scrapping what so ever.
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Old 5th November 2008, 14:32   #137
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-155/65-13 would the right 13" upsize.
-155/65 -12 is a wrong upsize and u won't get any tire in that size.
-155/65-13 and 165/60-13 won't scrape with wheel arches if u have 5j rims with an offset of 36~40
-Wagon R's rim size is 4.5j and not 5j.
-Try getting Baleno's rims, they are 5j.
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Try Hyundai, u will realize how much better Maruti rims are !
I think Hyundai's steel rims are made by 'Wheels India', a part of the Sundaram group.
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so 155/65 R13 on stock rims should not scrap the alto wheel arcs i suppose.
How can a 13inchers be stock? Alto stock rims are 12 inchers !!

If you are investing on 13 inch Alloys then go ahead and buy 155/65/13 Michelins or 165/60/13 (GIII is good). Otherwise better to stick to 145/80R12 Michelin XM1+ on stock rims.

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Old 5th November 2008, 23:31   #140
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Amit
-155/65-13 would the right 13" upsize.
-155/65 -12 is a wrong upsize and u won't get any tire in that size.
-155/65-13 and 165/60-13 won't scrape with wheel arches if u have 5j rims with an offset of 36~40
-Wagon R's rim size is 4.5j and not 5j.
-Try getting Baleno's rims, they are 5j.

155/65 -R12, michelin has just launched these new ones last month and half ago.

5J alloys are very rare and mainly not of good brands and designs.

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How can a 13inchers be stock? Alto stock rims are 12 inchers !!

If you are investing on 13 inch Alloys then go ahead and buy 155/65/13 Michelins or 165/60/13 (GIII is good). Otherwise better to stick to 145/80R12 Michelin XM1+ on stock rims.

Abhi
i mean stock rims of wagon R which carry 13"rims.
i am ready to invest in 13" alloys but spoke to almost all dealers in pune, they are saying without bending the sheet metal of the wheel arcs or either without putting the spacers, wont do at all for an alto. they said at some point or the other with full load and heavy bang on suspensions they do scrap. he also showed me the safety margin with a tape. its very very small if we go for 5.5 J
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155/65 -R12, michelin has just launched these new ones last month and half ago.
5J alloys are very rare and mainly not of good brands and designs.
To my knowledge, Michelin doesn't have that size anywhere in the world.
BTW i suggested Baleno 5j rims and not alloys.
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To my knowledge, Michelin doesn't have that size anywhere in the world.
BTW i suggested Baleno 5j rims and not alloys.
i have seen them myself but just not remembering exactly whether they were 155/65 R12 or 155/70 R12. but for sure now michelin has 2 sizes in 12" tyres
145/80/R12 and one of the both stated above.
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Many suggested me Alto stock 12 inch RIM can hold tubeless tyres easily without any porblem. If I cant invest on alloys I am going for 145/80 R12 XM1 which would cost around 1950/- per tyre.

I feel 12 inch tubeless would give much better ride comfort compared to tube stock tyre in Alto. And 13 inch tubeless tyre because it would be 155/65 R13 ride comfort will come down compared to 12 inch tubeless but still it would be better than stock tube tyre

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And 13 inch tubeless tyre because it would be 155/65 R13 ride comfort will come down compared to 12 inch tubeless but still it would be better than stock tube tyre
Ravi that is theoritical. Ride comfort is not compromised on 155/65. Take a ride on my car whenever we meet, you will realize it.

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Many suggested me Alto stock 12 inch RIM can hold tubeless tyres easily without any porblem. If I cant invest on alloys I am going for 145/80 R12 XM1 which would cost around 1950/- per tyre.
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Ravi,

I am riding on stock rims with tubeless for the last 15k kms. The ride has definitely improved; handling, braking and the road grip is something that is confidence inspiring!

I would say do this itself, tubeless on stock rims.
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can someone please tell me about the steering efforts that need to be increased by putting 155/65 R12/R13 tyres especially when my car doesnt have power steering.

it shouldnt happen that the car should be very heavy to drive in city.
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I have 165/65/13 with 5j Aura alloys, Cannot drive as if I have stock rims, However the car does not scrape against speedbreakers. Just need to be a bit careful.

I didnt feel that the steering was heavy or anything. My car does not have power steering either.

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I have 165/65/13 with 5j Aura alloys, Cannot drive as if I have stock rims, However the car does not scrape against speedbreakers. Just need to be a bit careful.

I didnt feel that the steering was heavy or anything. My car does not have power steering either.

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i can learn that you have got your suspensions stiffened. how did u do this? i think due to stiffened suspensions you dont scrap your wheel arcs. mainly i think you got 5J alloys. so the width is also okay.
have u tried with 5 people on board and on rough roads. i mean not on speedbreakers where the car goes up and down symmetrically.
try to go over the speedbreaker in an angle of say 45-60 degrees cross and see whether the twist in the car causes the tyres to scrap. i will show a picute for illustration below.
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Running 155/65-13 on my alto. car handles perfectly,steering is almost the same. If you need to put in new tyres strongly suggest upsizing to 13.
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Today I had work near J C Road so did more study about Alloy and tyres.

Michellin XM1+ (26/2008: week/year is mfg and in Thailand): 145/80 R12 tubeless would cost 1950/- per tyre and rebook travel jacksuit free.

12 inch Plati, flying machine (I liked its design very much 5 spoke with curve, Black machined) Alloys set of 5: 12000/-

When I checked in Super Tyre Tec Michellin XM1+ 155/65 R13 would cost 2600/- per tyre and 12XM1+ he quoted me same price 1950/- as I had asked in different place.

Once vehicle is transfered into my name I am changing tyre. For my existing tyres, tubes, RIMS, wheel CAPs I received quote for 5000/-.

I am deciding between 12inch and 13inch after I travel in Abhi's Alto.

For 13inch I learnt I must go for AURA for safer side (5inch) and for 12inch I have lot of options and I can reuse 13inch alloy for my next car If I change Alto. So I need to keep all these in mind while choosing.

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