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Old 31st July 2010, 21:23   #1
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Default Needed: Tyres to improve ride quality of Wagon-R

We've got a 3 yr old Wagon-R which has been running on the stock Bridgestone tyres for 40k kms. Recently my dad started using the Wagon-R instead of our other car (Indigo CS) due to the higher seating and therefore the relative ease of ingress and egress.

After being used to the ride quality of the Indigo, Dad finds the Wagon-R very bumpy and bouncy. I would attribute a lot of this to the crappy stock tyres which for some reason didnt end up getting changed.

The stock Bridgestones S322 are of size 155/65/R13.

So here's my question to the Gurus. Which tyre could I change to that'll improve the ride quality?

Please suggest with Brand, size and approx cost per tyre.
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Michelin XM1+ in 155/65 R13 is a good option. Will cost around 2800 or so per tyre.
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If you're looking at upsizing, then all the below ones are direct fit without any alteration (no spacers nothing required)

155/65-13, 165/60-13, 175/60-13, 185/55-13 & 195/45-14

From my experience 155/65 R13 (stock of VXi) is the best one.

May be 195/45-14 could be most comfortable one in the stable, I could be wrong though.
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Hi gozmi,

You can have a look at Continental tyres once. They are pretty much good and little better than Michelins in terms of life. They also costs lesser than that. My Wagon-R is running with this nearly 10K kms without single issues (not even a puncture). The size which i used 155/70 R13. But i felt sometimes scraping during heavy bumps with full load. But as per my experience Conti is amazing.
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@Jebs - How is Continental different from other makes such as Bridgestone or Good year? The reason I'm asking is, I, unfortunately, was forced to replace 155/70 R13 instead of my stock 155/65 R13 & ever since then, I'm experiencing little unsteady at high speeds. This was not the case with 155/65 R13. Like you said the vehicle also does a little scrapping on heavy bumps + casual driving. Don't worry on alignment & balancing, they're intact.
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Hi aargee,

I guess CONTI has only 155/70 profile for R13 section. But i was keen to go for CONTI after reading some reviews and fitted it. Since, i was moved from 145/55 R13 to 155/70 R13 and i see lot of differences in the ride quality and braking. Till now we have no single issues with that. It also not looks like it has completed 10K on ODO. Also the reason i went for 155/70 section, as per tyre calculator the ground clearence will increae by 7mm. (Stock 165mm + 7 mm upsize). Now i don't have much GC problems after that.
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@Jebs - Ok, may be I'm wrong on the tire sizes. I'll double check this evening & confirm the size. But for sure, the stock size tire on Vxi is really awesome - 155/65 R13.

Oh!!! btw, I'm running on Good year & the stock ones that came with car was JK
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@rg: What made you think that 14'ers will proivde the better comfort? In case of this 45 profile tyre the side wall height will reduce, which will result in a more bone jarring ride. Though with such tyres the handling and road manners will be noticebly better, but thats not soemthing thread poster is looking for.
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Michelin XM1+ in 155/65 R13 is a good option. Will cost around 2800 or so per tyre.
I was confused between Michelin and Conti's since i've heard a lot about both. A good & knowledgeable friend suggested Michelin and now thats been confirmed by @Nikhilb too, so those are what i'll be putting on. Thanks
I'll check the price with Premji tomorrow and post it.

How much should I expect for my 44k kms old Bridgestone tyres? The tread's pretty good even now.

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Though with such tyres the handling and road manners will be noticebly better, but thats not soemthing thread poster is looking for.
Yup, I want my Dad's ride in the car the as comfortable as possible, so no question of lower profile tyres. The tyres are all I'll change, the wheels will stay the same stock R13. Dad's chauffeur driven, so handling isn't too important.
Improved comfort is of utmost importance. If there was a car with a significantly better ride than the WagonR with the same seat height, I would have even considered buying it as a replacement.
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I checked with 3 tyre dealers in Thane including Premji's and all are quoting Rs. 2925/tyre for michelin xm1+.
Does this sound ok?
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That is about ok. Continental is as good as Michelin. I just forgot abt it while posting. Highly recommended. They also have 155/65 R13 Conti CEC in their range.

It will be a fair bit cheaper than Michelin as well.
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That is about ok. Continental is as good as Michelin. I just forgot abt it while posting. Highly recommended. They also have 155/65 R13 Conti CEC in their range.

It will be a fair bit cheaper than Michelin as well.
I am using it in the same size. It even has better sidewall than Michelin and Apollo.
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^^I might not be able to quote the exact price but even here in Delhi we retail these at more or less same price.
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Ok, soo today I beat the usual lazy Saturday morning blues and went in search of tyres. Since I needed to get wheel alignment done on our other car (Indigo), Dad's driver and I set out in procession checking out tyre shops in Thane.

By lunch time, we hadn't found any decent tyre shop selling Conti's and where both of us got a good feeling about the place. So in the end went to Premji's and gave Mr. Mark Premji my tyre requirements. He gave me an option of Michelin XM1+ or Yokohama A-Drives, explaining and demo'ing the characteristics of both tyres (soft sidewalls and rubber on the Yoko's). He recommended the XM1+ for its comfort and longevity. Also, Yoko's were 155/70/R13 which he said was not the ideal size for a WagonR. So the deal was set, XM1+ it was.

The cost came to Rs. 2925/tyre with Rs. 600 buy back for the old ones. I got 4 tyres fitted and filled with Nitrogen. Got my indigo's tyres filled with nitrogen as well and alignment done. Both my driver and I felt that though the place was on the slightly expensive side, the facilities were A-grade and work was done very well.

Proof of the pudding is in the eating. No one else at home knew the tyres had been changed. So in the evening when I went shopping with Mom and Aunt, they commented that the roads seem to have been fixed, the car feels more comfy now. That made my day

The ride has improved tremendously and the car feels more grippy too. Dad still doesn't know about the tyre replacement, so he'll find it out the comfortable way on Monday.

Thanks everyone

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Thanks guys for the reasoning and recommendations i too require changing my tyres as i have crossed 45K on the present ones. How about tubeless on a WagonR??
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