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Old 20th January 2006, 12:23   #46
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@ajay, thanks for the advice... will ensure correct size and price too
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thanks Ajay and Santosh....
also, the FE would not change much...

yes, definetely there would be a slight drop due to more grip on the road only if you go for a low profile and wider tires but this would give phenomenal handling which is a small sacrifice for good grip and handling.
But if it is the same stock tire and only change in alloys from stock rims, there will be no change as alloys are lighter that stock rims. ideally you should get marginally more mileage as the weight goes down just a bit...

do check for the rim size before you buy
it is quite difficult to get 5J's, you normally get 5.5J's in bangalore....
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hi santosh,

yes, i have installed after market 14"chers. any specific calculations or specs needed for zen? and how much would/should 4 rings cost me?

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You may need rings only if you are using after-market alloys which usually have large center bore. In case you are using stock rims or MGA alloys, the problem is somewhere else... probably bent rims
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can anyone tell me where can i get hub centric rings in new delhi as i have 6jj alloys installed on my indica with 205/60r13 tyres and the vibration after 85kmph is a major problem and i need a solution as soon as possible.
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what exactly are there rings u ppl talking about...
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Old 17th February 2006, 01:50   #51
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.anshuman, go to the guy sold u the wheels and ask him for the hub centric rings.

@Hothatch: go to the beginning of the thread and read it from there.
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Old 28th February 2006, 19:42   #52
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I checked with the maruti dealer, but they can't help it. I met a service manager who was quite co-operative, took me to the workshop to understand what exactly I need. But he said he can not get those rings made. However, he offered to lift the car and adjust run-outs if any, though! Since that wouldn't be a permanent solution, I didn't do that.

Then I visited "pitstop" guys as suggested by Ajay. He said he can make hub rings (asked for Rs 300 per ring for aluminium material, that adds to the cost of alloys which is already a costly affair, especially in bangalore!). I am waiting for my 5th alloy before putting rings. (one of the piece in the set was "showroom" piece with small chippings, which I had to reject and demand a new replacement)

One good thing was that the guy said he will firmly fix those rings to alloys, so that you need not worry about misplacing... don't know how. For directions- take the road below richmond circle flyover wing towards KH road (lalbag), pitstop is located at the next signal that you find under the bridge itself.

I finally spared some time to rectify the vibration issue after getting the 5th wheel. Luckily it turned out that centering was NOT the culprit, rather it was due to errors in balancing which looks like the most common reason behind high speed vibrations (another being bends/deformations in wheels). Before getting into complications of getting hub-rings made, I followed a couple of suggestions which I had received from tbhpians and a few auto vendors-

1. Get balancing redone from a reputed and reliable place. I was told that many tyre shops have 2nd hand balancing machines which are prone to errors, especially for 14" or bigger wheels! So I went to a recommended place called "vijay alignment center", a specialist in the field. It was found that there were gross mistakes, he thought as if the earlier guy had randomly put some weights and called it balancing

2. Get nuts which have inside cone like portion with bigger outer diameter, required if existing nuts are too small for nut-bore size of alloys. This ensures easier centering as you tighten wheel nuts. Apart from possibly causing centering problems, tiny nuts can even damage alloy holes in long run. In extreem cases the wheel can just come off the hub! Also, the recommended nut order for tightening should be followed. I am using stock nuts which seem to be OK. Moreover, I didn't find nuts with bigger "cones" (probably called as studs??)... So I did not replace them as of now.

After correcting balancing, that abnormal high speed vibration vanished (tested till 130kmph) From this experience what I conclude is that all after market alloy wheels definitely rely on lug-centering. Hub rings should be required only in rare cases where somehow that is not enough. I would suggest a quick check to ensure proper centering whenever alloys are fitted- just see that the gap between the center bore and the hub is uniform (before putting center caps), and try spinning the wheel and observe any wobbling... of course this is very crude way (to the best of your eyesight!), but it will readily point out any visible mistake even before taking a test drive
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Glad to know your problem is solved, Santosh. Vibrations spoil the spirited driving experience.
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Old 25th April 2006, 01:06   #54
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Hi.

Just bought 15" 6.5J Alloys for my 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer (League, design LG203: http://www.league.com.tw/show/LG203.htm) about 2 months back.

Haven't faced a problem yet, though want the Aluminium Hub Centering Rings for my car. Can someone tell me where I can get them made / purchase them in Bombay?

I do quite a bit of long-distance / high speed driving, so would appreciate your answers as soon as possible.

Here's a pic of the wheel in case you'd like to see.


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Old 25th April 2006, 21:20   #55
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i just put in 175/60 R13 ( stock rims ) on to my santro a few days back, not yet driven at higher speeds but when i reach speeds of about 80+, the steering wheel seems to be vibrating... what could be the problem ??? any suggestions.
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wheel balancing id r
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Old 1st May 2006, 16:40   #57
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hey guys can anyone help with a tyre shop in mumbai to get these rings for the indigo marina i am also facing a similar problem
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Very useful information. This thread calls for a sticky! Mods please do the honours.

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Old 6th May 2006, 07:42   #59
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sAP & santosh.s .. AMAZING stuff chaps .. sAP .. u really know ur stuff man .. u've solved a very old dilemma for me .. we had this problem of the high speed vibration on my friend's Cielo many many years back .. this was when the cielo was just released .. he put alloys onto the car and we started getting this vibration at high speed .. at that time no one had any idea about what to do and they just kept balancing the wheels over and over again .. my friend even changed the tires in frustration and that lessened it but did not eradicate it completely .. we were at a loss completely .. i understand now what the problem was .. if only we had team-bhp then . sigh .. well better late than never .. i'm gonna mark this thread for when i put my alloys on .. brilliant guys and REALLY thoughtful of u to share this with us .. good on ya'
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@ Revvhed: Oi darling, punkchooayshun happening or not... especially considering the fact that you were moaning & griping a coupla days back about the apparent lack of it on the forum.

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