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Old 11th February 2013, 13:31   #286
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Great sets of pics of some really fantastic cars! Thanks everyone for sharing them. The Herbertons Lanchester looks really pleasing to me as does the Mercedes Mannheim.

Karl, congratulations on the outcome of your car! It looks better than new

Guys, please put more pics of the cars not covered so far; waiting to see them eagerly.

BTW, was there a black 1949 Cadillac coupe de ville convertible at the show?

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One more set before I break for Lunch but have patience I will have everything up by the evening Bikes included. Cheers
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There were some vehicles that deserve a special mention. These are liosted below:

Prominent Automobiles & Motorcycles:

Automobiles:

Fiat 501S Corsa owned by Herbertsons Limited

The Maharaja of Patalia, one of the wealthiest men with a large fleet of cars, ordered this 501S Corsa with racing bodywork. Its original wire spoke wheels were changed as the wires were too fragile rough roads of India. The car was found in the 70s with a tree growing through it, and was full restored shortly after

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Bikaner State Imperial Grouse Hunting Buick owned by Diljeet Titus

Originally a simple 1947 Buick Super sedan, this four-door convertible was the creation of the Bikaner State Railway workshop on the orders of the Maharaja of Bikaner and was used extensively for outdoor hunts by the Royal patrons of Bikaner.
This car was featured in the first Cartier show too so was surprised to see it again but i guess it was featured in a different class this year. I noticed the paint to be changed to a Matt yellow from the previous glossy yellow which i had seen it at the first show.

Ist Cartier Show in Mumbai

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Rolls Royce Phantom II Thrupp and Maberly owned by Maharaja Udit Pratap Deo of Kalahandi

Not driven for over forty years, and being shown for the first time ever, the 1930 Rolls Royce Phantom II limousine belongs to the Maharaja of Kalahandi, Orissa in eastern India. This special ordered car, made by coachbuilders Thrupp & Maberly comes with some very distinctive features. Built as a ‘purdah’ car (car meant for ladies, who were required to be behind purdah or curtains due to cultural constraints)
Showcased in the preservation class. This car boasts of original colour and interiors which are yet in great shape. Original headliners and all. The judges implored the owners to keep it in this original shape and not to restore it. Lets see what happens.

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1906 Napier Colonial Tourer owned by Princess Esra of Hyderabad as a part of the collection of Nizam's Cars

To be showcased as a part of the "Edwardian Class", this car was bought by the Nizam of Hyderabad as part of an order of 6 cars at the turn of 20th Century. Unique throne configuration seating was designed so that everyone in the passenger cabin faced the Nizam

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1935 Bentley Sports Drophead Coupe owned by Jagdish Thackersey

This car was displayed in the Paris Motor Salon in Nov 1934. The vehicle was in the UK till 1942 when it was sold to H.H. The Maharaja of Talcher (Orissa & Bihar).This car is featured in Johnnie Green's book "Bentley – Fifty Years of the Marque"

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1933-4 Ford Model B owned by Princess Esra of Hyderabad

A Part of the Preservation Class, is the very original 1934 Ford V8 Tourer of the seventh Nizam, Mir Osman Ali Khan. The Nizam who shunned ostentatious displays of wealth, choose to use this rather plain car whilst going to offer his prayers. It offers a stark contrast to the flamboyant cars of the other Rulers.

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1959 MG A Racing Car owned by Srivardhan Kanoria

Restored over a period of 12 years, this car is unique in that it is one of the best preserved racing car in the country. To be displayed as a part of the Roadster Class, it has been a regular prize winner at the Vintage car rallies in Kolkata bagging top trophies. This car was built in its days for high speed English racing events such as LeMans, RAC and Monte Carlo races, etc.

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Motorcycles

1912 Indian Pre War Classic Motorcycle owned by Subodh Nath

The 1912 Indian Motorcycle is one of the oldest known Indian motorcycles restored to mint condition across the world. Manufactured by Hendee manufacturing company, Springfield, U.S.A, this pre war class motorcycle has changed hands from Walter Locke & Company, ltd., its first owners, to Sir Partapchand Soni of Jodhpur, illustrious legal expert and finally to its current owner

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1955 Norton Manx owned by Dnyanesh Samant

The most famous and successful of all British motorcycles, with an ancestry dating back to the very dawn of the internal combustion engine, the Overhead Norton Manx is inseparable from the era of British domination in Motorcycle Racing. This rare Norton Manx, a 1955 model 350cc motorcycle is comes with a rich racing heritage, originally campaigned as a part of the Racing Team and taking part in numerous motorcycle rallies

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1936 Triumph Werke STM Nurnberg 500 (German Triumph) Lt.Col. Bopanna Shashidhar

This is one of the oldest preserved vintage motorcycle in India in stunning condition. The fact that only 291 motorcycles of this specific model were manufactured worldwide and only a handful remain in mint condition makes this motorcycle extremely rare not only i9n India but also globally

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There were some other eye popping displays which we shall see further.
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Back from Lunch and the posting continues. My favorite Cadillacs and Lincolns here along with the Studebaker and Packard clipper
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Now for some more cars One More Cadillac belonging to mbz180's friend and the Shikar cars. Enjoy
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Before i start the pictures, for those who would like details, i have listed the different classes and automobile exhibits and have attached it below: Click to get a larger view.

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Thanks for the Great photos - What a great collection of some remarkable cars.
I would have Sooo enjoyed seeing them!

The 1940 Fordson Stationwagon is unfamiliar to me, any history on the vehicle?

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And Now finally the part you have all been waiting for the veteran cars which were at a whole new level down below at the entry level where the prize distribution also took place. Now hat remains is the bikes which I will post peacefully tomorrow in a systematic manner. Unless of course someone else wants to do the honours.
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In the Bikes section the the rarest bike was the one in the Racing category "The Norton Manx 350cc" Really a bike without any equals and for many of us it was a once in a lifetime opportunity to see the magnificent beast. The other impressive bike entered by the same owner in the exhibition category was a beautifully restored BSA Goldstar. Also in the same category was a velocette owned by Mandar Phadke in original paint (light Blue). Finally A rare picture of the elusive Dnyanesh Samant with his prized Goldstar.
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Great pics Amol.

The red Velocette Venom next to Dyanesh's Manx is a 1956, owned by Sam Solomon. This is famed as one of the fastest racing bikes of its era, ie the 60s, having raced at Lohegaon Racing track in its earlier days. Best known for its large capacity four stroke singles and a distinctive flattened fish tail silencer. It was a dream to see these machines.

Another one that caught my fancy was the 1926 AJS owned by Jahangir Farookh. This one was restored to its original glory and is in enviable mint condition currently. One of the prestigious of all British marques, known for their sleek and streamlined design, AJS began production of bikes in 1909, using their own engines of various sizes.


Sadly the pictures i took of the Manx and these two bikes have got corrupted. Would request someone who has clear pics of these bikes i mentioned, to kindly put them up with the note i have mentioned about them. Thanks in anticipation.
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Cartier's own Preservation class lists that "a car can be restored many times but it is original only once. This class is intended to recognise the few old cars that have never been restored. Shown in 'as found' condition with patina that tells a story of decades of service, their faded finishes, worn seats, stone chips and rust specks verifying their biographies"

And the joke is Cartier has just gone ahead and ruined three of the most precious cars in India which were a glimpse of what a 100 plus year car looks like. What a shame !

Glad to hear the judges advised the Kalahandi Maharajah to not bother restoring the car. Hope someone doesn't jump up and offer to restore the car for free now !
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Personally for me, the biggest gaffe of the show which will remain inexplicable is the Manx not winning a prize. Not withstanding that it is a Manx after all, and not winning a prize in the Racing Category, with its pedigree and generations of racing history is shameful, to say the least. Without meaning to question the knowledgeable judges, I wonder in what way was the Manx not considered? To top it, this particular example with its elder sibling has years of documented racing history. So what was it? Were the judges misled by the exhaust, which they deemed incorrect?

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TRAVEL WITH STYLE 2013 WINNERS

1)SPECIAL PRESENTATION

The Pranlal Bhogilal Collection
Ms. Chamundeshwan Bhogilal

JUDGES CHOICE

Invicta 1931 S-Class
Owner: Kooverji Gamadia

2) PRE WAR CLASSIC MOTORCYCLES

2ndRunner Up

Swift 1910
Model: 550CC
Owner: Diljeet Titus

1st Runner Up

No: 83 Triumph 1936
Model: Werke STM500
Owner: Col. Boppanna Shashidhar

Class Winner

No: 76 Indian 1915
Model: -
Owner: Subodh Nath

3) POST WAR CLASSIC MOTORCYCLES

Runner Up

No: 94 NSU 1958
Model: Super Max
Owner: Prakash Kunte

Class Winner

No:91 Triumph 1955
Model: Tiger 100
Owner: David Fernandes

4) RACING MOTORCYCLES

Runner Up

No: 96 BSA 1955
Model: Goldstar 500 CB34
Owner: Reuben Solomon

Class Winner

No: 95 AJS 1926
Model: 350cc Clubmans Racer
Owner: Jehangir Faroogh

5) CAR DRIVEN THE LONGEST DISTANCE

Winner

No: 26 Buick 1940
Model: 90L Limited
Owner: Ranjit Malik

6)EDWARDIAN CLASS

Class Winner

No: 2 Napier 1906
Model: Type L76
Owner: Princess Esra of Hyderabad

7)PRE WAR CLASSIC

Class Winner

No: 8 Rolls Royce 1935
Model: Phantom II
Owner: HH Maharaja GajSinghji of Jodhpur

8)PRE WAR CLASSIC – ALL WEATHER CABRIOLETS

Class Winner

No: 13 Rolls Royce 1934
Model: Phantom II
Owner: Yuvraj Mandhatasinh Jadeja of Rajkot

9)PRE WAR CLASSICS TOURERS

Class Winner

No: 16Lanchester 1921
Model: 40hp
Owner: Herbertsons Ltd

10) PRE WAR CLASSIC – LIMOUSINES

Runner Up

No: 23Mercedes 1936
Model: 290 Pullman
Owner: Vikram Singh

Class Winner

No: 25 Buick 1938
Model: 90L Limited
Owner: Diljeet Titus

11) POST WAR CLASSIC – AMERICAN

2nd Runner Up

No: 37Studebaker 1956
Model: Flight Hawk
Owner: Captain P.A Bhujwala

1st Runner Up

No: 34 Ford 1950
Model: Club Coupe
Owner: Amal Tanna

Class Winner
No: 36 Cadillac 1954
Model: Series 60 Special
Owner: Rita Jain

12) POST WAR CLASSICS – EUROPEAN

Runner Up

No:42Bentley 1951
Model: Mark VI
Owner: Rustom Jeejeebhoy

Class Winner

No: 41 Invicta 1947
Model: Black Prince
Owner: Kooverji Gamadia

13) ROADSTER PRE WAR

+ TECHNICALLY MOST ADVANCED CAR OF ITS PERIOD

Class Winner JOINT
No: 45 & 48

No 45: Fiat 1921
Model: 501 Corsa
Owner: Herbertsons Ltd.

No: 48 Adler 1936
Model: Trumpf Junior Sport
Owner: Samir Kadam

14) ROADSTERS POST WAR

Class Winner

No: 54 MG 1959
Model: MGA
Owner: Shrivardhan Kanoria

15) INDIAN HERITAGE

Runner Up

No: 60 Chevrolet 1947
Model: Fleet Master Deluxe
Owner: Subramanya Venktesh Gupta


Class Winner

No: 61 Fiat 1949
Model: 500C
Owner: Adil Darukhanawala

16) SHIKAR CARS

Class Winner

No: 71 Chevrolet 1951
Model: 3100 Half ton
Owner: Yuvraj Harshwardhan Singh of Dungarpur

17) PRESERVATION

Class Winner

No: 57 Rolls Royce 1930
Model: Phantom II
Owner: Udit Singh Kalahandi

18) RESSURECTION CUP

Winner

No: 12 Studebaker 1933
Model: Commander
Owner: Viveck
Goenka

19)LADIES JUDGES CHOICE

Winner

Chrysler – Vivek Goenka

Honorable mention To Mr Amir Ali Jetha

20) MOTORCYCLE

Best of Show

No: 76 Indian 1915
Model: -
Owner: Subodh Nath

21) CAR

Best of Show

No: 8 Rolls Royce 1935
Model No: Phantom II
Owner: HH Maharaja Gaj Singhji of Jodhpur
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Thanks to the Mole for the great pictures and his extreme patience in resizing and posting the pictures, great effort.

I was wondering if there are any detailed pictures of the Gold Stars, the Manx and the others that won prizes in the bike catagory?

Would love to see the Manx in detail along with the Gold Star
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JUDGES CHOICE

Invicta 1931 S-Class
Owner: Kooverji Gamadia
Is this correct? There are 2 x "s" Invictas in the country? I only know of one that belonged to Pranlal and is pictured here. Perhaps I have missed a picture of the other one having only scanned these new posts. Could someone point me to the post number please?

Or is this car actually a Black Prince mistakenly named as a "s-class", (I note it is not s-"type"). Perhaps the "s class" designation is something given to the Black Prince that I am unaware of. To my knowledge the "s" designation was only given to the 1931 s-type and the ugly 2004 S1.

Personally, perhaps too much of an eclectic mix of cars for a "concours" but I guess there is limited choice when compared to similar events abroad.

At the risk of always sounding critical, I will say the choice of venue seems to have been a poor one. Most of the cars cannot be viewed correctly (from all quarters, at a distance and up close as is required at concours) and it looks like more of a car park than a display. Perhaps it was better in the flesh/metal. However, it looks like everyone had a good time and there was enough goodwill to make up for any perceived failings, which is probably the most important thing.

I haven't had the time to examine Harit's crystal ball post with the prize winning list, but it would be interesting to know if he was right in the end after all... Bulldogji's also had some interesting points made in his review.
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