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Old 13th February 2013, 13:32   #316
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Pre War Classic

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1910 Swift

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1912 Indian took Best of Show for Motorcycles. Belonging to TBHPian Subodh Nath. Well done sir!

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1914 Triumph

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1923 Rudge

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1926 AJS has been with Jacob Eapen for decades. Completely original and unrestored, though a regular runner attending events in Pune too.

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German Triumph (TWN?) from Hyderabad

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Lovely Zundapp from Hyderabad. Menacing!

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Triumph Speed Twin

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Harley Davidson from Bangalore

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Indian Chief from Pune.

Post War Classic

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Ariel Red Hunter and BSA from Pune

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BSA Shooting Star

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Pair of Triumph Tiger 100s

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Norton Dominator

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NSU from Pune took a prize.
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...Carrying on with my set of picuters and there are many....Please bear!


1931 Chrysler CM6 Phaeton Tourer owned by Madan Mohan Yadav, is a beautiful machine. Somehow I thought the colour did not do justice to the car and made the car look dull. Another colour scheme perhaps, would have made the car stand out but then thats just my opinion. All in all a beautiful vehicle.

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Nishant Dossa's beautiful 1932 Hudson 8 Tourer

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Another gem from Herbertsons. A 1936 Alvis Speed 25 Sports Tourer with body by Vanden Plas.

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Srivardhan Kanoria's 1923 Rolls Royce 20 hp, 2 seater Convertible with a Park Ward Body.

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If i remember right, i got a glimpse of a metal plaque on the inner door sill of the Rolls, which proclaimed "Restored by Shrivardhan Kanoria" I thought a more subtle way of intimating that feat instead of attaching a metal plaque would have been fitting but its each to his own i guess.


This 1938 Rolls Royce Wraith owned by Dinyar Jamshedji i have been seeing for quite many years, being used often with very Victorian interiors.

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His Thunderbird is also a seen to be believed car. Unfortunately not showcased here.


The Bling Bling Rajkot Rolls. This 1934 Phantom II all weather cabriolet with body by Thrupp and Maberly has an interesting story behind it of procurement, heard best from the owner, the suave and charming Yuvraj Mandhatasinh Jadeja of Rajkot. This was also one of my favourite exhibits.

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The Rajkot Royal Crest on the window and body of this regal Rolls.

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"The Shikar Class" Cars completely stunned me. Firstly i was confused by this class as i could not see any genuine car made for the purpose as mentioned. Some were very heavily accessorized and kitschy but were real eye candy. I doubt any one of them was actually a genuine shikar car used for that purpose. I believe they were dolled up versions pushed into this class due to their oddities. Thats again my perception and i will remain corrected, if and when done. Please guys, no offense meant, thats what it looked like to me. Nonethless they were beautiful specimens and the accessories which might have been a recent addition, did add a touch of period-ness to the display.

Diljeet Titus's 1947 Bikaner Buick Super Shikar Tourer...
(Shikar tourer???...Now whats that?) which was, to my knowledge, not specified as a Shikar car in the previous Cartier show. In fact I have yet to come across a four door buick 47 convertible tourer. I know of a 1949 Roadmaster four door convertible but a 1947?? Please share if someone has knowledge of a 47 four door convertible made by Buick....unless this was modified by the Maharaja....because the body was said to be made by Bikaner railways so maybe the four door version has a point there. Still, looked great with a matt yellow colour to go with the whole feel of the class and what the heck, I just love Buicks.

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The 1930 Ford Model A Shooting Brake of Harshwardhan Bhatnagar.

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Shooting-brake/brake is a multi meaning term for a car body. It originated as an early 19th century British term for a vehicle used to carry shooting parties or hunters and their equipment and other paraphernalia such as dogs and finally the hunt back home. The term brake was initially used during the pre car days wherein a particular carriage was used to break-in wild horses. later it was applied to station wagon or estate cars as we know them today.


The 1940 Fordson WOT2 owned by Dhanajay Badamikar.
This is a genuine Army car. Nice touch with the lookout/tracker/sniper chair on the mudguard.

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WOT means "War Office Truck".
Fordson, originally a tractor brand had its name as such to identify it as a product of Henry Ford & Son, a company owned wholly, by members of the Ford family in contrast to the Ford Motor Company, which was partly owned by. These trucks can be seen in a few old War movies, more specifically seen in the classic "A Bridge On The River Kwai"


Vivek Goenka's 1926 Chrysler C Shooting Brake. The "Humane" Shikar Car with a message attached

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Just loved the vehicle. The tyres, period, genuine, military spec, painstakingly researched and resurrected. Loved the way it had been restored without ridiculous accessories and keeping in view a more humane view of shooting. ("Shooting" Brake)

As i understood, the depiction was, that shooting was not only to be understood as to be fulfilled with the gun. It could be done with a camera too. Thats why the camera and paraphernalia displayed. I hope i didnt see too far into the concept. People do think i have a wierd sense of imagination, especially when i visit an arts/painting exhibition. Just for this concept of "Shikar", it deserved to win a prize. Amazing!!


A 1951 Chevrolet 3100 1/2 tin Pickup owned by Yuvraj Harswardhan Singh of Dungarpur.
Nice gun rack and gunman position on the roof with a searchlight.

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Still lots more pics to come but heading for a wedding now. Will add more late night...hang on till then.

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Continuing where I left off.

Racing Class

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1926 AJS was a beauty

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1955 BSA Goldstar of Reuben Solomon - an old favorite

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Norton ES2 - I think also of the Solomon brothers.

Exhibition Class

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Norton Manx 350 - what a beast!

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Honda CB 72 Clubmans

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1962 BSA Goldstar - special competion model, impeccably restored

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Velocette of Sam Solomon is a familiar sight on the circuit.

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Norton Dominator 650SS - we came down from Pune by road a couple of days before the show, and she performed fantastically.

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Second Dominator 650SS

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Velocette in original paint was a new entry

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Some concluding sights and sounds

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This Jawa was spotted parked in the premises - the owner has ridden this machine extensively, including the Led Ladakh belt.

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With the exhaustive list of legends visiting the show, it was a dream for autograph hunters. Dnyanesh went one step ahead, and got the stamp of approval from none other than Read and Agostini!

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1952 Le Mans winning C-Type Jag was brought down for the event. Missed an image of Sir Stirling Moss with the car though.

Tis the season to trot out your favorite car branded lapel pins - modelling for us as TBHPians Philedonos, Amal and Yash.

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Marespand posing with his (and of course Amir's) labour of love

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The nex gen already staking claim.


And finally - Best of show!

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All in all I had the time of my life, thanks to everyone. Can't wait for the next event! Cheers.
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This car is indeed ex-Darbhanga as Karlos mentioned. It is a Phantom I (43EF) with an interesting history on its many guises.

1st Body - Hooper Tourer

2nd Body (in 1937/38) - Thrupp & Maberly Sports (now on ex-Darbhanga PIII 3AZ178)

3rd Body (shown) - original Barker Limousine from PIII 3AZ178 with a suitably modified front apron

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It is the same car shown in the BBC documentary with registration MBI-112 (looks like it went back to its original registration)

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As best I know, this Titus masterpiece is ex-Travancore. It is interesting that the licence KLV-1432 is only a few cars away from a 1969 FIAT that we had (KLV-1418)

So did this car have a Travancore or Travancore-Cochin registration until 1969? Guess the secret may be on the reverse of the plate!

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V-16 Vivek Goenka's good enough to eat 1933 Studebaker commander all weather cabriolet was a stunner. Perfect paint job, perfect everything with an album showing the restoration. All the white metal and chrome parts including the monogrammed hubcaps were all manufactured indigenously. Commendable. This was one of my favourites from the Pre-War Cabriolet category. Vivek is a wonderful person, warm and gentle and will eagerly share with you his knowledge of cars and parts. Mind you, all of his cars are restored and rebuilt in his own workshop.

Well Said Gogibhai. If someone was to ever ask me a question on "How I would like to carry out my dream restoration?" without blinking an eyelid I would say the way Mr. Goenka went about doing his! Having been one of the fortunate (and lucky at that) ones, along, with some other TBHPian's, I was personally a witness to this dream restoration project, which according to me is one of the finest to have ever taken place in the country so far. His eye for detail is something which needs to be seen to be believed. The level of depth at which he gets into can be quite unimaginable and at the same time, agonizing for the rest who are party to it. For Joe Collectors such as me it is such a huge learning. Seeing him the way he went about with his Studebaker and Chrysler has brought me fond memories of one of my most prominent idols - Steve Jobs. Having read his biography written by Walter Isaacson, which has detailed chapters, around the way Steve went about creating iphone and ipad. The same anology can be directly applied on a concour’s quality restoration. "Stay hungry. Stay foolish" which I believe Mr. Goenka was throughout his restoration process. Most of the large Car collectors in India, do not have in house restoration facilities and they outsource the process to experts and then follow it up rigorously by visiting them on a frequent basis. In this case it was slightly different as Viveck actually rolled up his sleeves and dirtied his hands all through the process. I have seen him burning the mid-night oil and actually showing his team how to fit certain parts, sitting with carpenters and working on the design, advising his upholstery experts to ensure the seats are upto the specifications laid by manufacturer and the best amongst them is getting all his chrome and nickel plated inhouse under his vigil. These days I do jokingly address him as Dr. Goenka as he has almost mastered every aspect of restoration process.
In a nutshell a concours restoration can never be a “Jugaad” job. You need to continuously keep excelling at it till you get it right and most times it is never the case of right the first time. I have been privy to few examples adopted in Viveck’s case:
1. The colour which we all finally saw on the Studebaker was actually zeroed down only 3 DAYS prior to the event. I have seen the same Studebaker completely finished, more than half a dozen times, and interestingly each time in a slightly different shade. Every time thinking that it must be the final shade, but was wrong at every instance
2. The radiator grill and the hub caps on the Studebaker were completely handmade and thoroughly inspected with eagle’s eyes for minutest of blemishes
3. The roof top of the Chrysler took ages to get to its present state
4. If someone got to see the inside of the Chrysler there is some solid wood work done right from its top, sides and floorings and it has been months and months of concerted efforts with plenty of changes till the job was finally done

And I can go on and on and on….as it is hard to see vintage restorations from such closes quarters and doubt if anyone would have gone to such lengths. For me It was a solid learning and someday I will sit and write a book titled “Restoration for Dummies” 

My personal view is that the “Resurrection prize” is the most coveted prize in any vintage car show and it makes it all the more special when you win it at Cartier. True test of your restoration skills especially when you are competing with the very best in the country. And in this case there were very little doubts on who should have got it.

One suggestion if given a chance, which I would like to make, is to allow each of the top prize winners to make short presentation on their efforts and that would be a great learning for all of us. My 20 cents for whatever they are worth.
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If someone was to ever ask me a question on "How I would like to carry out my dream restoration?" without blinking an eyelid I would say the way Mr. Goenka went about doing his!
67Bug, thats a really heartfelt testimonial! Would you know if Mr. Goenka has documented his efforts on the Studebaker? If he has, would it be possible to share it on this forum? It'd be a real treat to understand the efforts that brought this car to its stunning state! I hope it wouldn't be too much of a bother to Mr. Goenka if we ask

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67Bug, thats a really heartfelt testimonial! Would you know if Mr. Goenka has documented his efforts on the Studebaker? If he has, would it be possible to share it on this forum? It'd be a real treat to understand the efforts that brought this car to its stunning state! I hope it wouldn't be too much of a bother to Mr. Goenka if we ask

Cheers,
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Thanks Rahul. I know for a fact that there are hundreds of photographs which have been captured throughout the Restoration process and multiple note pads used, on which instructions have been scribbled. But I doubt if there is a formal documentation available on step by step process for all of us to see. But the silver lining to it could be to create one based on the pictures and notepads which are available and it might not be such a herculean task after all as there there was lot of method to this madness. Did i mention about a book which would be authored by yours truly titled "Restoration for Dummies" Stay tuned. Next time when I happen to touchbase with Mr. Goenka I will surely plant this seed in his mind.

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So on we move further...

Preservation class: Something that i cant understand

Although its a treat to see cars in this section i wonder why? What is a preservatiom class? What is the use of having a car, deteriorating obviously and you are actually going gung ho about not fixing it? Imagine, if most cars were not restored, where would we have so many wonderful and pristine restored examples to see? The judges implored that the Kalahandi Rolls be preserved...for what? Its not going to be allowed entry again into the next Cartier? I can understand the first time its showcased, the next time let it be restored in its original beauty. See how the Nizam's Napier and Rolls have turned out. But that i say not fpr a debate so please no one start a debate. Its just my point of view. If i had a car like that, id showcase it in the preservation class for the first time and then restore it and hope it can be restored to its original beauty. I for one cant understand this. I respect it but i cant understand it.

The 1930 Rolls Royce Phantom II Colonial Limousine with owned by H.H. Maharaja Udit Pratap Deo of Kalahandi.

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Not driven for over forty years, and being shown for the first time ever, the 1930 Rolls Royce Phantom II limousine belongs to the Maharaja of Kalahandi, Orissa in eastern India. This special ordered car, made by coachbuilders Thrupp & Maberly comes with some very distinctive features. Built as a ‘Purdah’ car (car meant for ladies, who were required to be behind purdah or curtains due to cultural constraints)
Showcased in the preservation class. This car boasts of original colour and interiors which are yet in great shape. Original headliners and all.


The 1934 Ford B Tourer from Nizam Trust's Collection.

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This is the very original 1934 Ford V8 Tourer of the seventh Nizam, Mir Osman Ali Khan. The Nizam who shunned ostentatious displays of wealth, choose to use this rather plain car whilst going to offer his prayers. It offers a stark contrast to the flamboyant cars of the other Rulers.


A 1934 Cadillac Series 355D Imperial Sedan with body by Fisher owned by Diljeet Titus.

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The Titus Caddy was another gem in its class. A really well preserved specimen, I thought this was worth of a prize too but the judges know best.


The 1938 Packard 1182 touring sedan owned by Gurpreet Singh was also well preserved. The interiors were dated but well preserved.

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Sukhwant SIngh's 1940 Buick 90 L Limousine with a Fisher body was a misfit in this class.

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The criteria of a car being included in the preservation class is to recognize those few cars which have never been restored and shown in as found condition which should tell a story about the many years it has been in service with their faded finishes, rust specs, stone chips cracked windscreens, etc. These should speak of the car. This Buick looks pristine. Only on the fact that the paint is not original, it should not have been included. Also the interiors looked pretty upgraded. I guess Cartier run out of cars to include in this class? There are so many which i know of which could have been included but then who knows how and why certain cars and factions are chosen and favoured.


As if in strict contrast the post war European and American classics were gleaming under the afternoon sun. The bright sun rays bounced off the well waxed and polished pristine paintwork of these very well restored beauties.

Zaheer Vakil's 1947 Buick Super Convertible. With his enviable zest for collection and love of Buicks, new and old, Zaheer might well be called "Buick Man"

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Vivek Goenka's 1949 Deluxe Starline Convertible.

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Amal Tanna's 1950 Ford Custom Deluxe Coupe. I didnt care for the colour though.

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Capt. Bhujwala's Rare 1956 Studebaker Flight Hawk Coupe


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Lined together and seen alongside the Studebakers rear wing are three American beauties. Nishant Dossa's 1947 Packard Custom Super Clipper, Anand Puranik's 1947 Dodge Deluxe Convertible and Yuvraj Harshwardhan Singh Dungarpur's Packard Clipper Sedan.

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Anil Mohan Kamats's 1949 Cadillac Series 62 Convertible with body by Fisher

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Rita Jain's 1954 Cadillac Series 60 Special Sedan

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Ashok Shah's Lincoln Cosmopolitan 1EL Sedan. Note its recessed head lights

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Jagdish Thakersey's 1935, 3-1/2 Litre Drophead Coupe with body by Antem, was originally in the Talcher collection belonging to HH The Maharaja of Talcher (Orissa & Bihar) and has been a favorite in many a Vintage Rally around town. Here it was showcased in the Exhibition Class.

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The Pranlal Bhogilal Collection Showcased in the Exhibition Class:

1937 Rolls Royce Phantom III, Sedanca De Ville with a Hooper Body, originally of Nabha

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1956 Mercedes Benz 300SC Cabriolet Ex Sikkim

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The Uber Rare 1930 8 Litre Bentley Tourer, a sure shot eye ball grabber

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The 1932 Invicta S Type Sports

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Was time for lunch.
The grand buffet was arranged in the banquet hall inside with tables laid out. I noticed many gate crashers here too
What caught my fancy was the detail at which the Hotel had gone through to see to it that the theme is carried out in the buffet as well

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The display at the dessert section was to die for. It was too good to eat.

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Vintage and Classic Automobiles adorn the face of the Petit Fours on display. An edible treat i might add.

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The elegant European consisted of many beauties. Cars i had just heard of and either not seen or seen in pictures or just seen in another pre adornment avatar.

1946 Jaguar Mark IV Saloon owned by Hemant Kumar Ruia

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The 1946 Daimler DE 27 Limousine with a Windower body owned by Jamal Suleiman


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S.V. Gupta's 1946 Humber Super Snipe with body by Airflow streamlines Ltd.. Perhaps a darker colour would have made it look the regal automobile that it is.

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Kooverji Gamadia's 1947 Invicta Black Prince which almost everyone ooh-aahed at. This was a rare automobile all right.

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The Hood Ornament says it all.

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The Fantastic 1951 Bentley MK VI Convertible with coach work by H.J. Mulliner, owned by Rustom Jeejeebhoy all with its delectable pink leather interiors and original tool kit. A delicious and rare car.

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Abbas Jasdanwalla's 1959 Mercedes 300D Saloon

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The Prewar Classics added another dimension to the line up

Sharad Sanghi's regal 1927 Rolls Royce Phantom I Limousine with a Barker body.

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Tariq Gore's stately 1936 Diamler Light 8 Limousine with a Hooper body

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Had a great time at the event. I am not uploading any of the pics that i have taken at the event because Gogi, Karl and Amol have done the honors hence i don't see any point of uploading another set of images. I think this was very well organized event. Missed meeting a few people but then i guess there is always a next time.
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I wonder, why dont we see cars restored to the levels that the Americans and Europeans do?
If one looks up say RM Auctions for such cars, we see the real class!
Example:- http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1057746
http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1057612

I wait for a day when our Dear government allows imports of such collectibles.
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Two pictures just for Karl, in return of his Royal Portrait of my humble self wearing the Traction Avant badge, hehe.
As requested a (mediocre) picture of the interior of the preserved Royce and a picture of Lapo and the red Fiat (I still can't get over the fact that a RED Topolino C won, sorry).
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