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Old 31st January 2013, 17:31   #61
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Ragtop, I absolutely adore the BEAT THE MASCOT MANIAC story ;-)
The sar isn't bad either, haha.
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This is a fantastic report on a restoration. My gut feeling is that the restoration has progressed beyond the stages shown here, and the car may be almost ready. Its supposed to be a Cartier entry, non-competitive.
Why non-competitive is not clear to me. The car has had a complete makeover since the last participation, it has reached a higher level than ever and is a potential winner or would end up near the top. The wisemen of this Cartier event seem to be afraid of allowing worthy cars to compete for prizes. This is seen by the entries which are known to us, and by the absence of certain cars also known to us.

More on this subject at suitable time and forum.

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Old 3rd February 2013, 11:41   #63
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Hi Harit, yes we are further along, but not by much!! I have just not had the time to add information to the thread, will do so in a few days and bring it up to speed with the current position status of the car hopefully...
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The past few days have been really busy. Progress has been slow but with a deadline looming, we cant let up. Heres an update on the work.

All the bits for chroming were gathered and the in - house plant was finally activated. Learned a whole new bunch of lingo and processes from this exercise - de-chroming, de-nickel, buffing, nickel plating, copper plating, chroming etc. It was a bit of trial and error at first but it all seemed to come together thereafter. here are some of the before images, the after will be best appreciated once installed.

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The mystery of the missing wheel caps is finally put to rest here, these are the originals being prepped for chrome.

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The wood polish was finally complete. Now we had to install all the components for the dash before we installed the finished product onto the car.

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Tyres mounted and now awaiting balancing before we can mount all the wheel accessories. More on this later

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Engine complete, all linkages installed, now awaiting carburetter cleaning and installation

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Carb dismantled and being cleaned prior to installation.

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One of the hubs was leaking oil, the problem was traced to a plugged drain hole - here is the hub being cleaned. Notice the 2 sets of brake liners, the wider set activated by the primary brakes and the narrow set activated by the hand brake. At low speeds when RPM's are low, the brake booster is not very effective so the primary brakes are quite weak, at this time the driver has to rely on the hand brake so it is essential that this is working at its best all the time.

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Headliner going in.

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Some of the pieces ready with copper plating, now to be buffed and chromed.

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Wheel discs being prepped for paint. The shiny ring is to be left in chrome.

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Wheel balancing being done. Each wheel had 3 weight mount caps on it. The process entails lifting off the wheel and rotating it to identify any weight bias. Then I add weights and continue the process of spinning and adding weights until the wheel spins freely and comes to a stop without any bias towards any particular point. It must also not rotate in reverse after coming to a stop. This is a tedious process and takes about 30 minutes a wheel to complete. here are before and after images.

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New bump stops procured and replaced.

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Prop shaft / universal joint bearings replaced

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Finally, the gearbox is back and installed. Now the tedious process of reinstalling all the links for accelerator, brake, clutch, brake booster, suspension control etc.

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At this stage we were ready to mount the body and begin the task of reinstalling all the components, much easier said than done though. As we have learned over the past few days, very little goes together like we expect it to. Every component has taken longer than planned. I will upload more images shortly to show the current status of the car.

The engine was started and is sounding great. Tuning took days! Thanks to Jehangir that she is sounding fantastic. Just a few days to go and lots of work still pending.
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We finally got the car finished just in time for the Cartier show, Well not quite on time, we actually made it there late Saturday night. The last 2-3 nights were all nighters and everyone involved was exhausted.

We had to take a few short cuts to get the car ready, however, needless to say, all of these short cuts will be attended to immediately. The car was started and driven straight to the show with no time for any testing. As is expected after any restoration of this magnitude, a lot of issues cropped up on the way there that need to be addressed. Overall, here are my thoughts based on what we set out to achieve:

1. Get the car back to original specifications: I think Marespand and his team did a great job! I love the outcome as does the rest of my family. While others may have differing opinions, I feel really good about it.
2. Improve ride quality by overhauling the suspension: This is probably the single greatest improvement in the car! The car feels a whole lot better to drive and handles bad roads much better than it did before.
3. eliminate/reduce body squeaks: While this has improved, it is after all a wooden frame and this, coupled with our roads are bound to create some twisting and consequential squeaking in the body. We will work on some of these but I will probably have to live with some noise.
4. Fix the gear box issue: While we seem to have solved the 2nd gear issue, the gearbox has thrown up some other problems that need to be addressed urgently! So its off with gear box soon to fix things!
5. Improve / lighten steering feel: This was a big one on my list. The work done to the suspension camber and steering column seems to have helped but only just a bit. Once the car is rolling, the car seems marginally lighter, however at standstill or crawling speeds, its as heavy as ever. I spoke with David M. from Hongkong who has a bunch of experience with Phantom II's. He gave us a number of pointers which we will attempt and hopefully improve steering feel further.

Here are some images from the show. I will post some more detailed shots in a few days and also update this thread as we fix the issues that have been identified. Thanks for reading!

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The self styled Italian "magister elegantiarum" of this august Forum gives you a big thumbs up! Not only have you done a splendid job, the choice of the two tones, both the green and the light cream, is impeccable. I know how difficult this is, as I went through this myself with a 1920ies car and my two tone Traction Avant. The rests of the original colour have generally faded and changed with time, so you need a lot of creativity to understand what the bodyshape requires and what the intentions of the original colour sheme were. In this case I think the itention was twofold: to make it look young and light.
As much as I liked the black and cream combination, I must admit that the car looks much more modern and playboyish in this form. Considering the body is that of a Continental, "younger" colours go well; the black and beige is more appropriate for a sedan body, I'd say. We'll all get used to the new combination, I have changed the tones of the car in my dreams already...
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Hearty congratulations on completing the restoration. Glad to hear your objectives were met.

I personally don't like this colour combination at all but realise people have differing tastes and what works for the owner I suppose is ultimately what matters. I would have done a very very pale green if this combination were to work for me.

its a spectacular car Amir and wish you years of happy motoring

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Great work and excellent detailing to the engine bay. Enthusiasts and owners of these magnificent machines are aware that nothing can be 100% so glitches and them being addressed are always going to be there.

Some snaps of the 100s taken !. Magnificent to see both the Jodhpur cars in one frame.

Cheers and outstanding workmanship once again and congratulations to you and the team for this work of art recreated for us to drool

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