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Old 1st June 2013, 20:37   #1
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Good Evening Sirs ( do any ladies exist in the vintage forums ?? )

I know several Packard threads exist on the forum , but I could not resist, the temptation to start another one - just so, I could quote one of the most famous lines in automobile advertising. ( and yes the advetisement , preceded the model detailed here, but so what , the catch phrase was still applicable )

I have not come across any photograph of a lady driver with a Packard. ( I am waiting for our resident historian to correct me )

Another restoration winding up, so thought I will detail the restoration.

The straight 8 in bare metal , an awe inspiring engine - I have worked on a V 12 and a much bigger V 8 but the smoothness of this 8 was soothing.

Subsequent to the engine photographs , I will try to be chronological in my posts.

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The car was sourced in 2009 from Jhumri Talaiya ( the place does exist ) in Jharkand. I went there to negotiate the price and pick up the car .

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Great images of the find at Jharkhand. Do upload more images once she was cleaned.

The color of the engine and its basic shade is a Dupont Green or 546A bell green & a combo black is there like the pulleys etc for the 47.

In regards to the dialogue of Ask the man who owns one well what to say I am a firm believer of the statement and no American car matches to that in regards to refinement.

But there are a few adverts and also the oldest single ownership to date is a 102 women Mrs Dunning and her 1930 Packard 740. You can google her very fascinating story and ownership.

Another 1928 Packard advert also shows a lady driving a car , some sold magazine cover also a women driving an early Packard and an old style car wash or polish all showing ladies and Packards.



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Good Evening Sirs ( do any ladies exist in the vintage forums ?? )................I have not come across any photograph of a lady driver with a Packard. ( I am waiting for our resident historian to correct me )..............Regards Chauhan
Well, now good afternoon to you

A very good point. As a matter of fact, in Mumbai atleast our get togethers have helped to kindle some interest with some ladies. Many got along well, enjoyed our drives, and many started by referring to our metal as "Katchra, Bhangar (rubbish, scrap). Yesterday I drove to Nashik with family and remembered the spots along the drive. Here a car had broken down, there we had snacks etc. My daughter remarked that the wife seemed to have liked the trip. So lets see what happens in the cooler months of the year, the lady will in all probability come along. Whether she will go on t-bhp I wonder.

I presume you refer to Lady driver in Packard in India. Well, can't say much, but here is an ad, Miss Rosie was an actress in the 1930's. Maybe she just modeled for it, owned it or even drove it.

In general, there are fewer lady drivers seen in any of my pictures, irrespective of the marque involved.

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I have not come across any photograph of a lady driver with a Packard.
Here is one picture given to me by the daughter of the lady in the picture. The car survives, was badly neglected, still with the first owners till few years back, but now I believe restored.

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The car was sourced in 2009 from Jhumri Talaiya ( the place does exist ) in Jharkand. I went there to negotiate the price and pick up the car .

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But there are a few adverts and also the oldest single ownership to date is a 102 women Mrs Dunning and her 1930 Packard 740. You can google her very fascinating story and ownership. Cheers
I happened to see Mrs. Dunning's car in person, without even realising it was her car! Pictures here
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/beyond...ce-2012-a.html (Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance 2012)
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Thank you Kasli , Harit and Karl ,

Firstly for the addition to the name of the thread , I had been wondering since I started the thread if the connotation of the name would be right - it sounded more like a boast, than a restoration thread.

Secondly the ladies and vintage cars do get together for photoops and not much else.

I have to say my family has been cooperative in the extreme, what with a denting shop under the bedroom window , the same applies to the neighbours , who have bearing up with the din for the last 15 years , I have been so embarrased by their passivity that will be shifting the garage to the family farm by next year.

Karl,
Pushing this car out not so difficult :

Jacked the car up , took off all the rims , got new tubes , inflated the tyres , freed the wheels and pushed it out . The car had been parked in this garage since 1976 and had not been moved since .

Nobody knows where the bonnet went.

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Vintage engines do fascinate me, I love to drive my cars on normal traffic city roads - a reliable engine is a precondition to enjoy the hobby so 2 photographs of the engine upon arrival Lucknow

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Thank you Kasli , Harit and Karl, .....Secondly the ladies and vintage cars do get together for photoops and not much else.........Regards Chauhan
That is not correct, some ladies have been driving the cars to all sorts of events, and I have seen daughters, the next gen taking to the wheel too.

This is a nice Packards, before you bought her she was doing rounds in the broker circles, bonnet was lost. Now that you have started a thread, she must nearing completion.

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Secondly the ladies and vintage cars do get together for photoops and not much else.
Often true, but not always. My grandmother was driving a DKW when still in her teens. Coincidentally in Luckow

The picture of the Packard I posted shows the lady posing with the Packard - she drove all sorts of large cars. Family was involved with Dadajee Dhackjee in some way, I'm not sure.
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Gentlemen ,

I stand corrected regarding my comment about the ladies , but vintage restoration and passion for vintage vehicles is still a male domain in our country. Maybe, as I rarely venture out of UP ( except to change the floors at Delhi T3 - arrival to departure or vice versa ) my exposure to situation outside UP is limited.

But it was a pleasure seeing the lovely ladies and the cars.

By the way Karl , there is a DKW still in Lucknow , does it by any chance have links to your family ?

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Towed by the ever faithful Mahindra Armada . ( The Armada would hold the record for towing the maximum number of vintage cars - the longest tow was over a 140 kms with a Ford Fairlane in 3 hours).
Chauhan

Guys, I have known the OP for a long time but lost touch after 2000. Found him again on TBHP today, of all places, thanks to this thread! It is a small world, after all!

Capt.Chauhan, here is a photo of the Armada back in '98, in front of the JK Mandir, Kanpur! More pics (with me in it) to follow, but they have to be scanned first!
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More pics (with me in it) to follow, but they have to be scanned first!
Hello Ganesan,

It's been a very long time , 15 years with SPIC Shipping were the best ever, but then all good things come to an end......

Thank you for the photograph of the Armada , like me - then in it's prime , we are both growing old together. Over 3 lakh kilometers and still running.

I do not think more photographs of the Armada will be appreciated in a thread dedicated to the Packard . We can post them elsewhere in a more appropriate thread.

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Dear Capt Sahab,

hello

The Packard is coming out great , I guess you had got the bonnet when i had seen the car in 2011 .

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Congratulations on the new addition. Wonderful to see yet another example heading back to its former glory.

You had a 36 convertible too which I saw some pictures off during restoration. Do please share some pictures of the competed car. Those 36/37's were such handsome cars.
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