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Old 20th January 2014, 13:35   #16
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[b]Saw Kartik sir driving his Morris Minor, but as he was with his family so I decided not to interrupt.
Thanks for all the pictures, and you should have contacted me, it would have been my pleasure, and please why call me Sir, I am just a fellow enthusiast!!

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Superb images, I'm glad to see a great turnout. What a variety.

I'm especially happy to see a familiar car to me, the Charger, I suppose now stationed there. Completely original, and low milage. Nice to see the Hudson from Bombay visiting too.

I can see a blue and white Oldsmobile peeking out in one picture - any clear shot of that?
Yeah, great turnout, The Buick and the Rolls from Madan Mohan Collection were really nice and so was the Oldsmobile, I will be getting pictures from the rally photographer tomorrow and will upload some of them.

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We also need reforms in the vintage and classic car movement. Sadly Kolkata toes a similar line.
Both Jaipur and Kolkata have potential winners but they kept away from these events. Any guesses as to why

Cheers harit
I share the same views, no Judging would make the event free from Politics, which has become a disease every where.

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I don't see pics of the Rolls and Buick - can someone please share?
Here is one , but I will find better shots in a day or two!!
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Thanks for all the pictures, and you should have contacted me, it would have been my pleasure, and please why call me Sir, I am just a fellow enthusiast!!



Yeah, great turnout, The Buick and the Rolls from Madan Mohan Collection were really nice and so was the Oldsmobile, I will be getting pictures from the rally photographer tomorrow and will upload some of them.



I share the same views, no Judging would make the event free from Politics, which has become a disease every where.



Here is one , but I will find better shots in a day or two!!
Attachment 1193941

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Any idea where the rolls is from? The Buick is perhaps the one restored by Ranjit Mallick, a very original, un molested car.

The owner seems to be collecting cars in a big way, some dealers will be making small fortunes with each sale

He has also been very generous in offering free transport and 5 star accomodation for his bash in Gurgaon in early february. I have met the gentleman once, seems a decent sort, full of enthusiasm and desire to promote interest in vintage and classic cars and bikes.

Good luck to him in his endeavors

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Any idea where the rolls is from? The Buick is perhaps the one restored by Ranjit Mallick, a very original, un molested car.

The owner seems to be collecting cars in a big way, some dealers will be making small fortunes with each sale

He has also been very generous in offering free transport and 5 star accomodation for his bash in Gurgaon in early february. I have met the gentleman once, seems a decent sort, full of enthusiasm and desire to promote interest in vintage and classic cars and bikes.

Good luck to him in his endeavors
I spoke to him a lot yesterday and he is a humble person.
He told me the Rolls is from " Munger state ", I hope I got the name right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munger

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We saw a period shot of the Balasinor Buick here

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Just for information's sake I am uploading the details of the awards.

Vintage Section:

1. Concourse d D' Elegance: Hudson 1933, Nitin Dossa.
2. Most Original Car" First ": Dodge 1938, Ghani Auto's .
3. Most Original Car" IInd ": Dodge 1933, Gem Palace.
4. Oldest car : 1923 Bean , I.S Motors.
5. Most Rare/ Unique : Erskine 1929, Ghani Autos.
6. Best Restored 1st : Chevorlet 1927 , Ravi Mittal.
7. Best Restored 2nd : Chevorlet 1930 Brig. Kapur.
8. Best performance in Rally 1st : Bean
9. Best performance in Rally 2nd : Erskine
10. Best Maintained 1st: Morris Minor 1930, (Mine)
11. Best Maintained 2nd: Ford B pickup, Ghani Autos.
12. Ladies crew 1st : MGTD, Mrs. V.P Singh
13. Ladies crew 2nd: Buick, Kamal & co.
14. Special Prize: 1937 Morris 8, Ravi Kapur
15. Special Prize: 1936 Chevorlet , Kamal & co.
16. Special Prize: 1931 Ford, Bharat Gupta.
17. Special Prize: 1929 Buick, Madan Mohan.



Classic Section:

1. Concourse d D' Elegance: Chevorlet 1950, Ghani Autos.
2. Most Original Car" First ": Hudson 1947, Kamal & co.
3. Most Original Car" IInd ": MGTD 1951, Avijit Singh Badnore.
4. Oldest car : Packard 1941, gem Palace.
5. Most Rare/ Unique : Jaguar XK120, 1953, Ajai Singh Jaipur.
6. Best Restored 1st : Oldsmobile 1956, Amit Maheshwary.
7. Best Restored 2nd : Not awarded.
8. Best performance in Rally 1st : Daimler, Avijit Singh
9. Best performance in Rally 2nd : Studebaker, NBS Karki.
10. Best Maintained 1st: Dodge Custom 1958, Ghani Autos.
11. Best Maintained 2nd: MG-TC 1947 Vikram Singh
12. Ladies crew 1st : Porsche, Kamal & co.
13. Ladies crew 2nd: Mazda, Pankaj Agarwal
14. Special Prize: Dodge charger, 1970 Amit Maheswary
15. Special Prize: Daimler Dart 1959, Avijit Singh
16. Special Prize: Austine 1947, Fakruddin.
17. Special Prize: Chrysler Windsor, 1954, Kamal & co.
18. Special Prize: Jaguar 1947, Laxmi Raman.

The judges were Manvendra Singh Barwani and Tutu Dhavan.

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Thanks Kartik, and congratulations.

can you educate me? What are SPECIAL prizes? And why four in the vintage and five in the classics??

Also, what is rare / unique about a jaguar sk120?

Really am missing something out here, in our younger days , SK 120's were rather common, lots of them are still around!

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Thanks Kartik, and congratulations.
can you educate me? What are SPECIAL prizes? And why four in the vintage and five in the classics??
Sir, Thanks !!
About the special prizes, AFAIK they are not chosen by the judges, but by the organizers of the rally, they are like consolation prizes given to some worthy cars or owners ( worthy or not ? I have no comments )

For Instance

vintage section:
1. Special Prize: 1937 Morris 8, Ravi Kapur( He exhibits 5 to 6 cars every year)
2. Special Prize: 1936 Chevorlet , Kamal & co.( Club President)
3. Special Prize: 1931 Ford, Bharat Gupta. ( again 3 to 4 cars are exhibited)
4. Special Prize: 1929 Buick, Madan Mohan. ( Came all the way from Delhi)

the same goes for classic section :

Classic Section:
1. Special Prize: Dodge charger,1970 Amit Maheswary(3-4 cars are exhibited)
2. Special Prize: Daimler Dart 1959, Avijit Singh (The car is worthy for sure)
3. Special Prize: Austine 1947, Fakruddin.
4. Special Prize: Chrysler Windsor, 1954, Kamal & co.( Club President)
5.. Special Prize: Jaguar 1947, Laxmi Raman. ( He exhibited 5 cars this time,
including 2 Jaguars, Hudson, Mercedes and a Rover P5)

So Basically there are consolation prizes and their numbers can vary.


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Also, what is rare / unique about a jaguar sk120?
Really am missing something out here, in our younger days , SK 120's were rather common, lots of them are still around!
This was selected by the judges, why ? Well, maybe because this car is owned by Ajai Singh Jaipur, who is the son of Maharaj Jai Singh , and maybe because of the pedigree of the owners ( was gifted my HH Man singh II to his son) , IMHO this car should have also been given a special prize, but the debate can go on.

Reforms are needed in award system, and from what I know, we will see some major reforms in the Jaipur rally for next year.

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LOl, nice to hear the "pedigree" of the owner is accounted for when deciding which car gets a prize.

Judging cars or for that matter anything in India is such a farce !! Even at world class events like Carter the judging is a joke, skewered towards certain cars for self serving purposes

Don't see any hope for change in the above anytime soon.
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Sir, Thanks !!
About the special prizes, AFAIK they are not chosen by the judges, but by the organizers of the rally, they are like consolation prizes given to some worthy cars or owners ( worthy or not ? I have no comments )

For Instance

vintage section:
1. Special Prize: 1937 Morris 8, Ravi Kapur( He exhibits 5 to 6 cars every year)
2. Special Prize: 1936 Chevorlet , Kamal & co.( Club President)
3. Special Prize: 1931 Ford, Bharat Gupta. ( again 3 to 4 cars are exhibited)
4. Special Prize: 1929 Buick, Madan Mohan. ( Came all the way from Delhi)

the same goes for classic section :

Classic Section:
1. Special Prize: Dodge charger,1970 Amit Maheswary(3-4 cars are exhibited)
2. Special Prize: Daimler Dart 1959, Avijit Singh (The car is worthy for sure)
3. Special Prize: Austine 1947, Fakruddin.
4. Special Prize: Chrysler Windsor, 1954, Kamal & co.( Club President)
5.. Special Prize: Jaguar 1947, Laxmi Raman. ( He exhibited 5 cars this time,
including 2 Jaguars, Hudson, Mercedes and a Rover P5)

So Basically there are consolation prizes and their numbers can vary.




This was selected by the judges, why ? Well, maybe because this car is owned by Ajai Singh Jaipur, who is the son of Maharaj Jai Singh , and maybe because of the pedigree of the owners ( was gifted my HH Man singh II to his son) , IMHO this car should have also been given a special prize, but the debate can go on.

Reforms are needed in award system, and from what I know, we will see some major reforms in the Jaipur rally for next year.

Regards
Kartik

By organizers, do you mean the club committee? And the President himself gets awarded a SPECIAL prize?

Interested to learn more about your WORTHY members/participants. How does one qualify? I guess the rest of the guys are not considered worthy by the organizers

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By organizers, do you mean the club committee? And the President himself gets awarded a SPECIAL prize?
Yes I think the club committee, but I might be wrong !!

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Interested to learn more about your WORTHY members/participants. How does one qualify? I guess the rest of the guys are not considered worthy by the organizers

Not mine , , like I said in my post below , Worthy or Not I have no comments !

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Here are some more pictures from the rally, some might have appeared here before.
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another batch, the beetle I believe is a new addition to Jaipur rally
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The Studebaker of Nitin Dossa was recently restored in Jaipur
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More pictures of the Rolls and the Buick from the Madan Mohan collection,
( Rolls pictures , specially for Travancore ! )
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More pictures of the Rolls and the Buick from the Madan Mohan collection,
( Rolls pictures , specially for Travancore ! )
Thanks Kartikeyal for the great coverage (and sharing)!

The experts are still struggling to identify the RR.

Sorry to keep asking for more, but any pics of the rear view ?
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