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Old 12th September 2010, 10:51   #3346
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Saw this Padmini,in my tutors complex.Is this a superselect?
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Saw this Padmini,in my tutors complex.Is this a superselect?
This is a Fiat Select. The Super Select had a cut glass in the front door.
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but front grill is from super select
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This is a Fiat Select. The Super Select had a cut glass in the front door.
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but front grill is from super select
A fairly well preserved car, despite the dirt on it.
Many Super Selects had their side quarter glasses removed over time, (mine did - I procured and fitted new quarter glasses during restoration.) just as many Selects changed their grille to that from a Super Select !! Knowing the year of production will be the best indicator.
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A fairly well preserved car, despite the dirt on it.
Many Super Selects had their side quarter glasses removed over time, (mine did - I procured and fitted new quarter glasses during restoration.) just as many Selects changed their grille to that from a Super Select !! Knowing the year of production will be the best indicator.
Sirji any specific reason for this removal?? Did people back in those days hated the quarter glass or any other specific reason for the transformation. Just curious to know.
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Sirji any specific reason for this removal?? Did people back in those days hated the quarter glass or any other specific reason for the transformation. Just curious to know.
What I'm told is that the quarter glasses over a period of time wouldn't function as well, and would often leak water . At least two more cars I know of (apart from mine) had them removed !!
What I also believe, is that the number of Selects produced, (1958 thru 62) was far more than the number of Super Selects (1962 thru 64). Hence the availablilty of Select door parts and glasses was relatively easier - especially in the early seventies, which is when most of these cars must have gone in for their first major body / paint job..
Even today, front door glasses for a Super Select are very difficult to get, and those of the Select are easier.

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What I'm told is that the quarter glasses over a period of time wouldn't function as well, and would often leak water. At least two more cars I know of (apart from mine) had them removed !!
What I also believe, is that the number of Selects produced, (1958 thru 62) was far more than the number of Super Selects (1962 thru 64). Hence the availablilty of Select door parts and glasses was relatively easier - especially in the early seventies, which is when most of these cars must have gone in for their first major body / paint job..
Even today, front door glasses for a Super Select are very difficult to get, and those of the Select are easier.
The quarter glasses would also facilitate the entry of car thieves more easily.Their prying eyes would spot these as soft targets for entry.PAL actually discontinued the quarter glasses in Padminis, sometime in the last quarter of 1987.The SS (1962) till the advent of the Padmini (1974) and through 1987- it took 25 years for them to take this decision.
Ambassadors came with quarter glasses since day one and continue to come till date with these, but for the bullet proof version (after market).
So mean to say that even the thieves in the 1960's and 70's were better behaved and did not break door glasses or windscreens to gain entry as in 2010!

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Saw this Padmini,in my tutors complex.Is this a superselect?
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This is a Fiat Select. The Super Select had a cut glass in the front door.
And to add, no roof-gutter trim unlike the Select.

To add further, these cars are NOT Padminis, but true blue FIATS!
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What I'm told is that the quarter glasses over a period of time wouldn't function as well, and would often leak water . At least two more cars I know of (apart from mine) had them removed !!
What I also believe, is that the number of Selects produced, (1958 thru 62) was far more than the number of Super Selects (1962 thru 64). Hence the availablilty of Select door parts and glasses was relatively easier - especially in the early seventies, which is when most of these cars must have gone in for their first major body / paint job..
Even today, front door glasses for a Super Select are very difficult to get, and those of the Select are easier.
Ravi bhai thanks for clearing my doubts regarding the same. Although in case of Padmini's the process is reverse, the chances of availability of cut glass and side glass is more than full glass.
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The quarter glasses would also facilitate the entry of car thieves more easily.Their prying eyes would spot these as soft targets for entry.PAL actually discontinued the quarter glasses in Padminis, sometime in the last quarter of 1987.The SS (1962) till the advent of the Padmini (1974) and through 1987- it took 25 years for them to take this decision.
Ambassadors came with quarter glasses since day one and continue to come till date with these, but for the bullet proof version (after market).
So mean to say that even the thieves in the 1960's and 70's were better behaved and did not break door glasses or windscreens to gain entry as in 2010!
Ok so thieves back in those days were fascinated by the quarter glass very much. But be it the front quarter glass of the fiats and Ambys or the rear ones of Maruti 800's this design helped the thieves a lot in breaking in the car. The decision of PAL to discontinue cut glass, though, was just a cost saving measure i guess, which saved Rs.14 per car.
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A fairly well preserved car, despite the dirt on it.
Many Super Selects had their side quarter glasses removed over time, (mine did - I procured and fitted new quarter glasses during restoration.) just as many Selects changed their grille to that from a Super Select !! Knowing the year of production will be the best indicator.
Is that a select or a superselect grille. I thought that is a select grille and the superselect one is much thinner.
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Is that a select or a superselect grille. I thought that is a select grille and the superselect one is much thinner.
Hey Renjit, it's the other way round.
Selects have thin grilles, and Super Selects have grilles with a thick border and a square pattern.
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Is that a select or a superselect grille. I thought that is a select grille and the superselect one is much thinner.
That's a super-select grille, although the car's a select. This is what the select grille looked like:
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That's a super-select grille, although the car's a select. This is what the select grille looked like:
and there will be small 1100 script in the centre line (mid portion) in select
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and there will be small 1100 script in the centre line (mid portion) in select
And here is the picture of that

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Funkykar has explained the Fiats very well in the attachment below

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/2022146-post2191.html
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