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Old 24th November 2015, 14:12   #1
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This is a small sub-section to the Rajasthan Travelogue I am compiling. This needed a separate thread so as not to undermine the importance of the Vintage Car Museum through the Travelogue.

All the Vintage Car Enthusiasts, ENJOY!

Car - Mercedes Benz 180b (W120) 1.8L
Year of Manufacturing - 1956
Country - Germany

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Car - Mercedes Benz 190 Db 1.9L (Possibly Diesel)
Year of Manufacturing - 1960
Country - Germany

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Car - Mercedes Benz 200 (W110) 1.9L (Possibly Diesel)
Year of Manufacturing - 1966
Country - Germany

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Car - Mercedes Benz 300D (W124)
Year of Manufacturing - 1989 (Relatively Newer Car)
Country - Germany

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Car - Rolls Royce 20/25 H.P.
Year of Manufacturing - 1930
Country - United Kingdom
3669 cc, 4-Speed Manual, 4.57m in Length

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Car - Rolls Royce 20
Year of Manufacturing - 1924
Country - United Kingdom
3127 cc, 4 Speed Manual, 3.275m in Length

Winner of 'The Lucius Beebe Trophy' at 62nd Peeble Beach Concours d'Elegance 2012, California, USA

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Car - Rolls Royce Phantom II
Year of Manufacturing - 1934
Country - United Kingdom
5 Speed Manual, 7668 cc, 40/50 HP

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Car - Cadillac 5-Seater Cony. Sedan (Series 70)
Year of Manufacturing - 1938
Country - USA
4 Speed Manual, V-8 Engine,

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Car - Buick Super
Year of Manufacturing - 1946
Country - USA
4.1L, 3 Speed Manual, 5.3m in Length

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Car - Rolls Royce 20/25
Year of Manufacturing - 1934
Country - United Kingdom

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Car - Ford- Model A Standard Phaeton
Year of Manufacturing - 1930
Country - USA
3.3L, 40 HP, Top Speed - 65 mph (105 kmph), 3 Speed Manual

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Car - Morris Tiger (The board at the museum says Tiger but I am not sure if this was the correct name)
Year of Manufacturing - 1950
Country - United Kingdom

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Car - Morris Minor 1000 Traveller
Year of Manufacturing - 1959
Country - United Kingdom

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Car - Ford Jeep
Year of Manufacturing - 1942
Country - USA

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Some of the cars did not have their details mentioned. Also, I am no vintage car specialist. I will not even be able to tell the type, leave aside the Year of Manufacturing.

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Looking at Vintage Car Enthusiasts to tell me which cars are these.

Something unique at this Vintage Car Museum were these Solar powered, uggghhh, don't know, Cycles, Bikes or Cars.

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This Vintage Car Museum is a private ownership of the City Palace Maharaja I guess. There is a garage inside the museum where a restoration of another car was in progress.

This is the second Vintage Car Museum I have visited. The other being Ahmedabad vintage Car museum. The Ahmedabad Vintage Car museum although has a collection almost or more than 5 times that of this one, but does not have clear details of each car. Maximum Vintage Cars in the Ahmedabad Museum are kept on display without any information.

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Mod note: Thread moved to Vintage Cars & Classics in India. Thanks for sharing.
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The restoration of the red and white standard herald was guided by my restoration company; TEAMCSA
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First and foremost, thanks for the pics!

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Car - Mercedes Benz 180b (W120) 1.8L
Year of Manufacturing - 1956
Country - Germany
Car - Mercedes Benz 190 Db 1.9L (Possibly Diesel)
Year of Manufacturing - 1960
Country - Germany
Car - Mercedes Benz 200 (W110) 1.9L (Possibly Diesel)
Year of Manufacturing - 1966
Country - Germany
Well, those cars are the Ponton and the Heckflosse (a.k.a Mercedes Benz 'Fintail') respectively. Typical Mercs in every aspect- stylish, over-engineered, very rugged, very reliable, and yeah- very, very dependable.

These cars, especially the diesels, could go on forever! They could outlast you and me!

And if I may add- the dark blue Ponton; and the green Fintail are not ''possibly diesels''.

They ARE diesels. The Mercedes Benz OM621 (1,9 l) that the cars in question run on is known to be a bulletproof engine. One of the few engines that do one million kilometers with relative ease.

Trivia: The OM621 preceded the OM616/617. The OM616/617 series succeded the OM621 diesels from 1968 onwards, powering the W114/115 and the legendary W123's.

The OM616 is another of those epic Mercedes diesels- does more than one million kilometers with relative ease.

Here's a cold start vid of a 1,2 million kilometer run W123 300TD; powered by the OM617- (use earphones for better quality)



The Tempo Matador / Traveller use what is pretty much the Mercedes Benz OM616 as their powerplant.

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Car - Mercedes Benz 300D (W124)
Year of Manufacturing - 1989 (Relatively Newer Car)
Country - Germany
THAT FIVE CYLINDER DIESEL WAS EPIC!! The OM603 (IIRC) succeded the OM616/617.

Car in question is an import. Made in Sindelfingen, West Germany.

Incidentally, the Berlin Wall was demolished in 1989, the same year the car was built!


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Car - Rolls Royce 20
Year of Manufacturing - 1924
Country - United Kingdom
3127 cc, 4 Speed Manual, 3.275m in Length

Winner of 'The Lucius Beebe Trophy' at 62nd Peeble Beach Concours d'Elegance 2012, California, USA
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The car, at the Pebble Beach, circa 2012; with the Maharana of Udaipur, Arvind Singh Mewar beside it.

Kindly refer to (a most delightful page) : http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/beyond...-2012-a-2.html (Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance 2012)



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Car - Morris Minor 1000 Traveller
Year of Manufacturing - 1959
Country - United Kingdom
Ach, yes. Always loved 'em Morrises; particularly when fitted with the 'cheese-cutter' grille.

And yeah-

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RRY 101 is a MG TC. MG stood for Morris Garages, IIRC. Production years - 1946-1950ish.

One of the most delightful small sports cars ever built! They are terrific to drive, I believe.

Refer to: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_T-type)

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RJY 1937 is a Mark-I Standard - Triumph Herald. Year of manufacture should be sometime in the first half of the 'Sixties. The car is one of the most recognisable cars from the 'Sixties- and is a styling genius!

In the 'Sixties, both the Amby and the FIAT 1100 commanded LONG waiting periods. Whereas the Herald could be obtained almost immediately.

The car never did well, owing to the fact that it was a two door; and was VERY prone to rear suspension failure.

Refer to: 1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_Herald

2] An EXCELLENT restoration by Moderator @Karlosdeville; http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/post-w...storation.html (1966 Standard Herald Mark II - Restoration)

3] A thread on Stanher's Standard Herald (Stanher is the in-house Standard - Triumph guru)

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/post-w...pf-4050-a.html (Welcome my new (b)ride, CAN 1526 (nee APF 4050)!)

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MRX 4602- MRX
would be a Bombay registration series,circa 1962-1964ish.

The car is a Morris Oxford Series Five. Production run was 1959 to 1961ish.

There was one in Bombay, series 6, not 5- IIRC. Maroon in colour. Was registered MRF 2447. Had a huge E A K plate on the rear bootlid.

E A K
stood for East Africa Kenya. I suppose some expat bought the car from Nairobi to Bombay, back in the 'Sixties. And kept the E A K plate on the car.

Wonder where that car went. Incidentally, I also have an East Africa connection, but let's leave that for another day.

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Well, the Oxford Series 5 saloons replaced the Oxford Series 3 saloons. The series three saloons - well, the Ambassador was based on the Morris Oxford series 3.

So, in other words, this car succeeded our very own Ambassador, in England.

How I wish HM had given us this car, instead of our very own Amby!

Just LOOK at those fintails on the series five! A styling genius, the series five was. And not surprisingly, it was styled by none other than Pininfarina.

Recently, Indian OEM Mahindra purchased Pininfarina- I suppose you all know that.

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A tiring post, I know.

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A tiring post, I know.
I am no Vintage Car Enthusiast. But the attention to detail you indicated in the post is just amazing.

Reading the information you providing is giving me some insight but somehow my brain does not really get involved in understanding the Vintage Cars.
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RJY 1269 is 1956 180D running on a OM636 engine. It is very close in engine and chassis number to my car. Infact I consider it to be a sister car with identical interior spec (albeit different colour). When I was in Udaipur around 10 yrs ago I had the opportunity to examine the car in detail and she truly is a fine example of a surviving diesel ponton in India.
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