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Old 24th August 2007, 00:45   #286
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the holkars of indore still have three to four cars with them. one if i am not wrong is a gold plated rolls the handles were or precious stones. over the years the doors have been stripped off the gold and precious stones removed.
the bugatti saddens me imensely. but i guess they did not know the value of the car and swapped engines. man imagine they had even removed the logo from the grill..
when i said four bugatti's one belonged to Mr JRD(wonder where that went though) my father use to have pictures of him driveing the car at marine drive. Mr Mallya has two bugatti's and another one you shall soon be seeing.

amatmo the car is in a private collection and does not leave the garage. it is driven in his private property or kept more like show.
oh..but good to know there is one

so mallya is importing a third one,why doesnt he bring them with his other car at the VCCCi rallies
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Before we go deeper into the Maharajas cars, lets move those discussions here. Go through the thread, its pretty exhaustive.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/vintag...maharajas.html
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1912 Silver Ghost which belonged to the Raja of Puducotta.

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oh..but good to know there is one

so mallya is importing a third one,why doesnt he bring them with his other car at the VCCCi rallies
he is not bringing a third. that was for karl he is going to see one soon.
mallaya has a certain bunch of cars that are in bom and come for the rallies. the other cars are at his farm house. he has a garage which i believe is nothing short of a museum.

have read the thread karl some nice cars that were taken away from the country. manvindar uncle while makeing the book was assisted input wise by my brother too in a small way.
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Hello Everybody ,

Regarding Sunbeams - I have a Sunbeam 20 , a major restoration project , which I have been attending to in bits and pieces . The Gear box & Steering has been overhauled and chromeplated in 3 years !!!



I visited Mr. Heggade at Dharamsthala he has a similar car and was able to get a lot of information from his car. The people at STD register have been most helpful.

Request - PLEASE - all inputs regarding the renovation will be welcome.
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I visited Mr. Heggade at Dharamsthala he has a similar car and was able to get a lot of information from his car.
Request - PLEASE - all inputs regarding the renovation will be welcome.
I assume this is the vehicle you speak of? (though convertible) Quite pretty.



Just to let you know, while posting photos you need not post both the photo and the thumbnail, either one will do.
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And while we're at it, this Sunbeam is part of a large collection in Bangalore.

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And yes, I was about to come to the Bugatti above. It was featured in an Indian auto mag as well. Very sad actually, as the car is worthless without its original engine, and moreso in this condition.

Vijay Mallya has the only other documented Bugatti in India, though my father swears that he has seen JRD driving a small racing Bugatti.
Karl, I have seen SIR JRD driving around in the Buggati! He Sure had one.
we used to live on altamount road just before Sir's Bungalow. and he would drive around it over the weekends, and this is early '60s, I was 10! then, but he had stopped and Requested me to go slow on my cycle down the slope! and then always remembered his soft tone!!
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when i said four bugatti's one belonged to Mr JRD(wonder where that went though) my father use to have pictures of him driveing the car at marine drive. Mr Mallya has two bugatti's and another one you shall soon be seeing
So one is JRD's, 2 are Mallyas, one is the DeSoto engined one, and which is the other one you speak of Speedy? Or are details classified? I know one Bugatti of Mallyas came from Pune, and is being restored. Which is the other one?
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Karl, I have seen SIR JRD driving around in the Buggati! He Sure had one
Do you recall what model? What coachwork, was it a 2 door, cabrio etc? Any details?
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So one is JRD's, 2 are Mallyas, one is the DeSoto engined one, and which is the other one you speak of Speedy? Or are details classified? I know one Bugatti of Mallyas came from Pune, and is being restored. Which is the other one?
the other bugatti is in another collection which you shall see soon. classified till then. i do not know the other model that mallaya has.
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Do you recall what model? What coachwork, was it a 2 door, cabrio etc? Any details?
Was a 2 door Cabrio, and a powder bluish colour, was too young to mark coachwork and finer details, and yes after 1970 didnt see it.
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Was a 2 door Cabrio, and a powder bluish colour, was too young to mark coachwork and finer details, and yes after 1970 didnt see it.

Thats how my dad (a Telco man for many years) remembers it. But he goes to the extent to say it was a racing thoroughbred, with trademark Alloys and cycle fenders. Something like this.

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Thats how my dad (a Telco man for many years) remembers it. But he goes to the extent to say it was a racing thoroughbred, with trademark Alloys and cycle fenders. Something like this.

it was definitely a later model, yes with fenders etc, and a proper 2 seater. and no not a racing model but a roadster.
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Thanks Karlos , I need some parts before I can proceed with the full renovation.

As this thread is for "Classics Being Restored in India" - for all restoring vintage cars , here is a list of manuals available with me, maybe we could pool our resources to be better informed :

Hindusthan Ambassador Parts Catalogue 1965

Willys Jeep Master Parts List 1952 - 1957
Jeep Universal Parts List - CJ 3B , CJ 5 , CJ 6 , DJ 3A

FIAT 500 - 500B - 500C Shop Manual
FIAT Topolino 500 A Model Car - Casagrande Manual

Jaguar Service Manual for all models 1946 - 1948
Instruction Book 1 1/2 Litre Jaguar 1946/47/48
The 1 1/2 Litre JAGUAR Car Specifications & Information
Jaguar Spare Parts Catalogue 1 1/2 Litre models 1938 - 1946
Jaguar Mk IV 1.5L / 2.5L / 3.5L parts list Worcester Classic Spares

Sunbeam Repair & Maintenance Catalogue & Book
Sunbeam Archives Catalogue
Sunbeam - The Supreme Car
Sunbeam Motor Car Service Manuals
The Handbook of Instructions for the Sunbeam 20
Sunbeam Specification & Information
Sunbeam the Supreme Car Official Catalogue
The Sunbeam Programme
STD Newsletters
Touring in the Punjab & Kashmir with a Sunbeam Car 1934

Instruction Manual for 16/ 50 Rover Car

Volkswagen Beetle Specification & Maintenance
Volkswagen Beetle Restoration

Ford Manual 1921
Ford Model A Restorers Model A Shop Manual - By Jim Schild
Original Parts List Model Ford A & AA Effective July 1 , 1931
Ford Model A - Mac's Part Catalogue Model A & AA 1928 - 1931
Ford Model A - Mike's A"fordable" Parts Catalogue
Specification for 1/4 ton Ford GPW
FORD Chassis Parts Catalogue Passenger & Truck Models 1941 - 47
FORD Truck Chassis Parts Catalogue 1948 - 1951
FORD Service Manuals for mid sixties - Mustang , Fairlane, Cougar & Mercury Comet
Mustang CHILTON's Repair & Tune Up Guide 1965 - 1972

Plymouth PE Master Maintenance Manual
Plymouth P 15 Series Specification
Plymouth 1947 P 15 Service Workshop Manual
Chrysler Shop Manual 1946 - 47 ( C 28 , C30 , C 33. C 34, C 37, C 38, C 39, C 40 )
MOPAR Parts List for Dodge , Plymouth , DeSoto & Chrysler 1949
MOPAR parts list Dodge , Fargo & Desoto Trucks

Owner Manual 1948 Chevrolet Passenger Car
Servicing GM Model B Carburetors
Instruction For the Operation & Care of "Superior Model " Chevrolet Motor Cars

Packard 120 B Specifications & Service Manual

Cadillac Information ( Downloads from the net, 1167 A4 pages)
A - Z of Cadillacs
Haynes Automotive Repair Manual Buick , Oldsmobile , Pontiac 1985 - 1998 Chiltons Auto Repair Manual- American Cars 1972 - 1979

Fisher Body Manual 1934
Fisher Body Manual 1941 - 42
Fisher Body Manual 1946 - 1947 Service & construction

Yamaha Rajdoot 350 Parts Catalogue
Yamaha RD 350 Work Manual
Yamaha combined service manual 1972 - 1974 for DS7, RD 250, RD 250 A , R5C , RD 350 , RD 350 A
Yamaha Rajdoot 350 Service Digest

Premier 118 NE Service Manual
The Automobile Handbook 1927
Service Manual Houdaille Shock Absorbers
Automobile Carbureters 1931 by DC Royce & CR Strousse
The Tyre Handbook
Delco Remy Electrical Equipment Operation & Maintenance Manual
Payen Comprehensive Gasket Guide 1920 - 1953
Brakes India Girling Service Parts Catalogue 1963
Restorers Handbook
Haynes Restoration Manual Classic Cars
Haynes Restoration Manual Classic Cars Interiors
Ecklers Catalogue Chevrolet 1958 - 1972 Models
Catalogue for Coker Speciality Tyres
Catalogue for Wallace Wade Speciality Tyres
Kanter Packard Parts List
Kanter Parts List 2005 - 2006
Kanter Summer 2003 Catalogue
Kanter Spring 2006 Catalogue
Summit Racing Equipment Catalogue for American muscle cars 1968 - 2003
1948 Hepolite Catalogue for cars & M/cycles after 1923
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