Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > Vintage Cars & Classics in India


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 14th March 2009, 23:55   #1516
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Stanher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hyderabad, AP
Posts: 6,333
Thanked: 1,545 Times
Default

Why's that fiat 1100 painted in those colours?? A Kingfisher ad special or something??
Stanher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2009, 01:39   #1517
BANNED
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: London
Posts: 5,012
Thanked: 147 Times
Default

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...i-dsc00131.jpg

Ahh yes, the famous Colaba 1100, This car has been there since quite a while now. It is right opposite Arya Honda. I believe this was used in some Film recently.
Cyrus43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th March 2009, 14:00   #1518
BHPian
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Mumbai (MH-01)
Posts: 809
Thanked: 71 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyrus43 View Post
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...i-dsc00131.jpg

Ahh yes, the famous Colaba 1100, This car has been there since quite a while now. It is right opposite Arya Honda. I believe this was used in some Film recently.
The one used in the movie was the 103E with the centre-light grille.
salilpawar1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2009, 11:11   #1519
BHPian
 
john a milne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Toronto / Calcutta
Posts: 907
Thanked: 401 Times
Default To A/C or not to A/C, that is the question!

Hi!

I need some good advice.

We are enjoying our Fiat 1100 Deluxe now that it is all done up and 95% sorted out mechanically. It's such a joy to drive around Calcutta and see how many people appreciate it. Still haven't made any long trips but getting close.

The big issue is the hot weather which is now restricting it's use and we are seriously considering installing an A/C. It's either that or buying a newer car with A/C which doesn't make sense.

The engine is running reasonably well,the compression is even but lower than specs and to run an A/C feel it should be rebuilt. Any idea what a fair price would be for a full rebuild? I've been told around R6000. Also I have been told there might be a "new" 60's engine block still in the crate available, don't know what the price would be and would it be worth using if the price is right.

The second issue is what type of A/C unit to install.
My first preference would be to find an age appropriate unit, but practically the newer and smaller units would be more efficient and serviceably so that's the direction we are going. Any suggestions what current after market A/C we should consider.

We are still looking for;
1. Door lock set.
2. molded floor mat set.

Nice to have a big family out there but wish there were more of you here in Calcutta.
I doubt that I see more than 20 Pals and 3 Italian Fiats in the course of a week. They are all but gone from the streets of Calcutta!

Thanks for all your help.

Johbn
Attached Images
     
john a milne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2009, 11:36   #1520
BHPian
 
Gypsy-Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bengaluru
Posts: 298
Thanked: 8 Times
Default Neat car!!!

John,
That is a beautifully maintained car, congrats on keeping it so well.
My cousin has a 60's Fiat, which I am planning on restoring.
It has been parked up for about 5-6 years now. so dunno what shape it is in.
Hopefully I can put up a pic once I get my hands on it.
GB
Gypsy-Boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2009, 17:14   #1521
Team-BHP Support
 
karlosdeville's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pune
Posts: 9,627
Thanked: 8,100 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by john a milne View Post
We are enjoying our Fiat 1100 Deluxe now that it is all done up and 95% sorted out mechanically. It's such a joy to drive around Calcutta and see how many people appreciate it. Still haven't made any long trips but getting close.

The big issue is the hot weather which is now restricting it's use and we are seriously considering installing an A/C. It's either that or buying a newer car with A/C which doesn't make sense.

The engine is running reasonably well,the compression is even but lower than specs and to run an A/C feel it should be rebuilt. Any idea what a fair price would be for a full rebuild? I've been told around R6000. Also I have been told there might be a "new" 60's engine block still in the crate available, don't know what the price would be and would it be worth using if the price is right.

The second issue is what type of A/C unit to install.
My first preference would be to find an age appropriate unit, but practically the newer and smaller units would be more efficient and serviceably so that's the direction we are going. Any suggestions what current after market A/C we should consider.
John,

Plenty of Fiats run around with ACs, hardly any perform well. An engine overhaul for 6000 seems fair, but please ensure use of original/good quality parts. I recently overhauled mine with new pistons, bearings etc and parts alone cost me well over 10k - and I didnt even change oil pump, camshaft etc.

ACs were factory fitted from the 80s till the end, but I really dont know how they performed. A problem peculiar to these models with the "V" front panel is fitting the orversize radiator, auxiliary fan condensor etc. A friend did it in his similar car but cut vent holes in the front which look terrible. He also replaced his quarter windows with one piece side glasses to avoid leakage of air.
karlosdeville is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2009, 17:36   #1522
BHPian
 
john a milne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Toronto / Calcutta
Posts: 907
Thanked: 401 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by karlosdeville View Post
John,
.
Karl,

Any comments on the new/old crated engine block?
What to look our for and fair cost?

John
john a milne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2009, 17:49   #1523
Team-BHP Support
 
karlosdeville's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pune
Posts: 9,627
Thanked: 8,100 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by john a milne View Post
Karl,

Any comments on the new/old crated engine block?
What to look our for and fair cost?

John
Sounds like a fairy tale, I seriously doubt its' authenticity. Perhaps it is some reject stock from the 90s, which were available till some time back. Unless you are very sure of its authenticity, avoid it. Cost depends on condition of buyer and seller!
karlosdeville is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2009, 18:14   #1524
BANNED
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: London
Posts: 5,012
Thanked: 147 Times
Default

Also Depends on wether it is a Standard Block or an S1 Block.
Cyrus43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2009, 18:29   #1525
Senior - BHPian
 
V-16's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: mumbai
Posts: 4,575
Thanked: 844 Times
Default

John, regarding the Crated block better known in Indian lingo as "Peti Pack" would be a far drawn dream but worth a try.

Re the A/c, the best looking and also one of the most efficient and silent a/cs in cars i have seen an experienced was the National. Slim and whisper silent. The Blower grills could be shut to keep dust out, when not in use. I would recommend it. The heart has to be a rotary compressor. Maybe a Vikas Sanden. If you know an a/c guy you could probably get a preowned one. Nothing goes wrong with the blower or the compressor. Change the dryer unit (Batli/Bottle).

Yes you would be required to rebuild the engine if you went in for the a/c and as Karl has pointed out, the fan(electrical) placement would be an issue.
Rs. 6000/- for the job is a fantastic price, hope it is not only the labour quote.
I would recommend you speak to Mr Behram Bhabar who would be able to guide you in this respect.
V-16 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2009, 21:24   #1526
BHPian
 
john a milne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Toronto / Calcutta
Posts: 907
Thanked: 401 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by V-16 View Post
John, regarding the Crated block better known in Indian lingo as "Peti Pack" would be a far drawn dream but worth a try.

I would recommend you speak to Mr Behram Bhabar who would be able to guide you in this respect.
Dear V16,

Thanks for the info and will check your suggestions out as well as confirm the quote to see what all it entailed. Can you give me Mr. Bhabars contact info.

I'm going to check out the "Peti Pack" to confirm it is available and would appreciate a sense of it's fair market value.

Regards,

John
john a milne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2009, 21:26   #1527
BHPian
 
john a milne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Toronto / Calcutta
Posts: 907
Thanked: 401 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyrus43 View Post
Also Depends on wether it is a Standard Block or an S1 Block.
Cyrus,

What's the difference between the standard and the S1?

Thanks,
John
john a milne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th March 2009, 22:32   #1528
BANNED
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: London
Posts: 5,012
Thanked: 147 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by V-16 View Post
.........I would recommend you speak to Mr Behram Bhabar who would be able to guide you in this respect..........
Oye!! Its Dhabhar!! Made a mess of my surname!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by john a milne View Post
Cyrus,

What's the difference between the standard and the S1?

Thanks,
John
The Camshaft is Completely Different in the S1 Block. It has a greater Angle as compared to the original design. Also, the water jacket between cylinders 1-2 and 3-4 is absent as compared to the older block which had a water jacket between all the cylinders.
Cyrus43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd March 2009, 17:12   #1529
BHPian
 
john a milne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Toronto / Calcutta
Posts: 907
Thanked: 401 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyrus43 View Post
Oye!! Its Dhabhar!! Made a mess of my surname!!



The Camshaft is Completely Different in the S1 Block. It has a greater Angle as compared to the original design. Also, the water jacket between cylinders 1-2 and 3-4 is absent as compared to the older block which had a water jacket between all the cylinders.
Which block is better?
john a milne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd March 2009, 17:30   #1530
BANNED
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: London
Posts: 5,012
Thanked: 147 Times
Default

Obviously the S1. The S1 Block coupled with the S1 Head will give you around 50 Horsepower as compared with the 40(estimated) horsepwer you get from the standard Block.
Cyrus43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Karnataka Vintage & Classic Car Club Rallies Thread inder_s1 Vintage Cars & Classics in India 138 29th October 2017 18:22
Club NM - Supercar Club from Delhi A.K Super-Cars & Imports in India 10 24th August 2015 08:21
Fiat Classic Club - Hyderabad (FCCH) hillram Post-War 1472 4th August 2015 00:41
Pics: Fiat Classic Car Club India Rally - 15 August 2007 karlosdeville Post-War 38 18th August 2011 11:58


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 09:16.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks