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Old 8th February 2008, 09:21   #391
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karl mine are original italian..and they look quite same to me..i am perplexed..but you know better..will try and notice the nex time is see these guards.
Like I said, its a very subtle difference, but not so surprising. Aftermarket manufacturers will manufacture a product using the original as a template, and naturally there will be slight variation in the finished product, both in dimensions and quality, fit and finish.
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nice job with the pictures cyrus
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karl man u take this to a whole different level
we are left trailing in your dust when it comes to detailing like this
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karl mine are original italian..and they look quite same to me..i am perplexed..but you know better..will try and notice the nex time is see these guards.
HUGE CONGRATULATIONS guys on some real beauties...!

As some of you may have seen in my intro messages, I have a South African built 1961 Fiat 1100-103D which I recently bought here in NZ.

As I speak Italian, I've joined the MILLECENTO FIAT che passione forum and have also forwarded a couple of links from this forum (ie team-bhp) to theirs. Needless to say, the guys in Italy are blown away by your lovely 1100s, while they are struggling a bit with their own restorations.

As most of the guys don't speak any English, they've asked me to be their "voice" on team-bhp...

Their main question is this - how could they access Fiat 1100 parts in India, ie are there any parts specialists that ship overseas, or is there a Fiat 1100 Club in India that they could approach...? They would obviously be looking for a reliable and trustworthy source, preferably run by knowledgeable enthusiasts.

Any info would be very much appreciated. Also, please have a look at MILLECENTO FIAT che passione - you may find a few interesting photos etc.

Kind regards and sincere thanks, John (Fiat1100inNZ)
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Hi all!
What a stunning wonderful pleasure to visit your thread!!!!!
Lots of Italians would be amazed by your cars and rally!
Ciao!
Ignazio
P.S. Had a "Fiat Panda 30" 20 years ago, any circulating in India?
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This VW. See emblem on hood. Any info on this?
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HUGE CONGRATULATIONS guys on some real beauties...!

As some of you may have seen in my intro messages, I have a South African built 1961 Fiat 1100-103D which I recently bought here in NZ.

As I speak Italian, I've joined the MILLECENTO FIAT che passione forum and have also forwarded a couple of links from this forum (ie team-bhp) to theirs. Needless to say, the guys in Italy are blown away by your lovely 1100s, while they are struggling a bit with their own restorations.

As most of the guys don't speak any English, they've asked me to be their "voice" on team-bhp...

Their main question is this - how could they access Fiat 1100 parts in India, ie are there any parts specialists that ship overseas, or is there a Fiat 1100 Club in India that they could approach...? They would obviously be looking for a reliable and trustworthy source, preferably run by knowledgeable enthusiasts.

Any info would be very much appreciated. Also, please have a look at MILLECENTO FIAT che passione - you may find a few interesting photos etc.

Kind regards and sincere thanks, John (Fiat1100inNZ)

Most of the parts that we get for our cars are bought from a CHOR BAZAR or "theives market"..basically means stolen stuff is sold there...that is the only place where you find some truly amazing stuff if you are lucky sometimes..
as far as i know there are no specialists for these parts..most parts are refurbished, rechromed and reused..

for more info on the chor bazar..check this out..
you will be amazed..

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/vintag...rk-eulogy.html
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Cyrus,
This VW. See emblem on hood. Any info on this?

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Thats a cleverly built contraption, based on Type 4 running gear, and earlier wheels, and other misc vw parts. It is made to resemble (very closely!) a Tempo G1200, which was used by the danish army in WW2. It featured 4 wheel steering, and 2 engines and gearboxes...one up front and one at the rear. Of course, this local knock off sports a conventional type 4 VW engine mounted at the rear.
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hope this sorts out your query buddy...
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Most of the parts that we get for our cars are bought from a CHOR BAZAR or "theives market"..basically means stolen stuff is sold there...that is the only place where you find some truly amazing stuff if you are lucky sometimes..
as far as i know there are no specialists for these parts..most parts are refurbished, rechromed and reused..

for more info on the chor bazar..check this out..
you will be amazed..

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/vintag...rk-eulogy.html
Thanks Cyrus... reminds me of when I used to work in the Middle East and used to go down to the suq....!!! That's very helpful... but I think I'll recommend to the guys on the MILLECENTO FIAT che passione forum to stick to their usual sources!!! All the best + thanks again, John.

PS What about white wall tyres...? Any good suppliers...??
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Most of the parts that we get for our cars are bought from a CHOR BAZAR or "theives market"..basically means stolen stuff is sold there...that is the only place where you find some truly amazing stuff if you are lucky sometimes..
as far as i know there are no specialists for these parts..most parts are refurbished, rechromed and reused..
While "Chor Bazaar" does mean "thieves market", it doesn't mean that all stuff sold in there is stolen. It is a scrap yard and most cars there are bought off in junk state to be broken down for extracting scrap metal and salvaging important spares that we get. While I do agree that there are quite a few cars there that are stolen and broken down.
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While "Chor Bazaar" does mean "thieves market", it doesn't mean that all stuff sold in there is stolen. It is a scrap yard and most cars there are bought off in junk state to be broken down for extracting scrap metal and salvaging important spares that we get. While I do agree that there are quite a few cars there that are stolen and broken down.
Thanks Moralfibre...! I know the sort of thing... people need to make a living and will use whatever comes to hand! Kind regards, John.
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The chor bazaar car parts section essentially a scrapyard, with most of the cars coming legally to be scrapped. Fiats have the most demand as their spares are very useful for the 53,000 taxis running in Bombay.

Regarding a club, Im actively involved with the Fiat Classic Car Club of India based in Pune, where I stay, around 150 kms from Bombay. I can be reached at karlbhote at gmail.com

Do share some experiences of owning and maintaining the 1100 in New Zealand. Have you restored the car yourself?

Cheers
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hope this sorts out your query buddy...
Thanks! Ironically, though the TEmpo 1200 was not based on a VW engine or pan, the 49-52 Tempo Matador was based on VW engine until VW stopped supplying them.

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The chor bazaar car parts section essentially a scrapyard, with most of the cars coming legally to be scrapped. Fiats have the most demand as their spares are very useful for the 53,000 taxis running in Bombay.

Regarding a club, Im actively involved with the Fiat Classic Car Club of India based in Pune, where I stay, around 150 kms from Bombay. I can be reached at karlbhote at gmail.com

Do share some experiences of owning and maintaining the 1100 in New Zealand. Have you restored the car yourself?

Cheers
Karl
Hi Karl, many thanks for your message. The guys on the MILLECENTO FIAT che passione forum are very keen to link up with those of you in the Fiat Classic Car Club of India, so I will pass on your email contact.

Re my 1100, I don't think it's been restored, except for a new (rather poor in places) paint job and minor retrimming inside, all done by the original owners who had the car from new until two years ago. It is not perfect, but it's good enough for now - esp as the kids are hoping to go out in it...

What have been coming to light are a couple of 1100 based racers - one called a Stanguellini and another called a Taraschi. Both are now owned by enthusiasts in Auckland and are undergoing restoration. I've also been told that there are a few 1100 parts cars lying around, which I'm hoping to follow up...

All the best and thanks again, John.
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Dear Mr.John in Newzealand,

Hello to you once again John - please do contact me if you need any information about anything about the FIAT 1100. It is my very robust hobby here in India. I used to work in the R&D department of the company that manufactured these cars in India and I have the information with me. As my good friend Karl has said, we have around 50000 of these cars running as taxies in Mumbai and therefore parts are still available. I spend some time in the "Chor Bazaar" of Mumbai (as my son Cyrus introduced the thread to you) and I have succeeded in picking up priceless things for a pittance.

Bye for now. Please keep in regular touch. Incidentally my cousin stays in Auckland and keeps on pestering me to come and visit her. Let's see -----

Best regards to you,

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