My Landmaster Project - Team-BHP

Steeroid · 25th November 2007, 12:34

This thread is a tracker for my Landmaster restoration project. As some of you may know, the one and only Karlos Deville helped me pick up a Landmaster from Pune last month. This is the car, a 1955 Landy from Pune:

The car is original in most respects except the dashboard + instrument cluster and the engine. It features a very sweet and silent OHV engine in place of the side-valve - so silent that you wouldnt know its on if it werent for the vibrations (loose mounts). The car also featues a larger aftermarket radiator and an alternator. It still has the semaphore indicators, and they actually work partially (they go up, but dont come down and dont have bulbs inside).

The restoration project is completely in-house (Team BHP) on account of the following:

1. Car 'found', bought, paperwork done and transported to Bangalore by karlosdeville

2. Original Smiths meters generously donated by jyobeb

3. Car being restored at the garage owned by Desert fox

4. Engine will be worked on by Psycho

5. Last but not the least, this young member will help by staying away from it all

- v1p3r

The car is now at Desert fox's garage in Bangalore and work has already started. His band of merry men will carry out the following bits of work:

1. Strip the car completely, remove all traces of paint.

2. Denting, patchwork, painting, chrome + polishing.

3. Completely leak-proofing the oldie, double-sealing the car with extra beading for airconditioning to work.

4. Retrofit a Weber-carbed Conti engine, transmission and differential. Engine to be tweaked by Psycho in parallel.

5. Fit in the Conti's A/c, completely hidden from sight.

6. Fit suitable power steering.

7. Interiors to be done up in Tan leather, original Landy dashboard to be restored.

8. White wall tyres, Landy Steering wheel and switches to be sourced if possible along with knick-knacks like the old Jwala horn.

We will track progress on this thread - hopefully someone from Motorsmiths will take some pictures (as of now and later) and upload them once in a while so we can view the progress.

This is a unique effort by different BHPians - my role in this is limited as I hadnt even seen the car before the last week in Bangalore. Apparantly the car was good enough to be driven in from Nelamangala to Jayanagar in peak traffic !!!

karlosdeville · 25th November 2007, 12:48

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

The car is original in most respects except the dashboard + instrument cluster and the engine. It features a very sweet and silent OHV engine in place of the side-valve - so silent that you wouldnt know its on if it werent for the vibrations (loose mounts). It still has the semaphore indicators, and they actually work partially (they go up, but dont come down and dont have bulbs inside).

All the best for this great project. That engine was so silent, on a couple of occassions I have genuinely thought I stalled the car at traffic lights. If you are just throwing the engine out, throw it my way

The left side semaphore does spring up straight and light up as well, the right side is a little...er...limp.

khanak · 25th November 2007, 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeroid

4. Retrofit a Weber-carbed Conti engine, transmission and differential. Engine to be tweaked by Psycho in parallel.

5. Fit in the Conti's A/c, completely hidden from sight.

6. Fit suitable power steering.

Congratulations!!! Cant wait to see pictures once shes done.

The car originally came with a sidevalve engine right? Why not try to find that instead to keep it 100% original.

payam · 25th November 2007, 13:08

conratulation and allthe best for the project.
I second with khanak why not keeping it all original??

Steeroid · 25th November 2007, 13:11

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Originally Posted by khanak

The car originally came with a sidevalve engine right? Why not try to find that instead to keep it 100% original.

A friend of mine (the chap who was looking for a 1962 Mk 1) has a Sidevalve engine. I guess when he finds his Mk1 I may be able to swap the OHV for the Sidevalve, but the OHV is so quiet and smooth that I really dont want to give it away.

The reason for putting in the Isuzu is that the car will be a DAILY DRIVE for my dad. Therefore it will feature original exteriors but modern comforts, mechanicals and running gear to ensure reliability and usability. The original engine will never be able to drive an A/c.

I will keep the originals for later - just in case I decide to redo it back to stock specs.

iraghava · 25th November 2007, 13:13

Congratulations on the project Steer! Best of luck & if you need any help sourcing any parts from Delhi or thereabouts, give me a shout!

Khanak - The original engine might be quite tough to keep reliable for everyday driving. I think that's the reason that he's going in for the ISZ.

speedzak · 25th November 2007, 13:15

So, it's here. I thought it's going to be a secret project.

Congratulations and wish you all good luck.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 25th November 2007, 13:40

Congratulations and all the best for the rest of the work.

The spirit of team-bhp is amazing. Glad to be a part of this community!

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Originally Posted by speedzak

So, it's here. I thought it's going to be a secret project.

Like the 'star' that is still a mystery?

khanak · 25th November 2007, 13:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeroid

The reason for putting in the Isuzu is that the car will be a DAILY DRIVE for my dad. Therefore it will feature original exteriors but modern comforts, mechanicals and running gear to ensure reliability and usability. The original engine will never be able to drive an A/c.

Ok, makes sense then. I thought it would just be a part of your garage and used on weekends and for shows.

Good luck with your project and make sure you keep us updated.

Cheers

ajay99 · 25th November 2007, 17:36

I am looking for a good condition sidevalve LANDMASTER engine.
Any idea what would be the price of one?

moralfibre · 25th November 2007, 18:21

All the best for your project Steeroid. Hoping to see a detailed log if possible?

Steeroid · 25th November 2007, 18:33

The following activities are currently scheduled (quoting directly from scribbled notes):

1)ALL FOUR DOORS PATCH WORK—INNER AND OUTER
2)RH AND LH SIDE RUNNING BOARD (6 PIECES)
3)RH AND LH FULL PLATFORM
4)REAR LH AND RH FENDER CORNER
5)REAR L.H./R.H WHEEL ARCH-INNER/OUTER
6)DICKY BOTTOM PATCH INNER AND OUTER
7)LH/RH WATER CHANNEL INNER AND OUTER CHANGING
8)FULL BODY TAPPING
9)MINOR PATCH WORK
10)TWO SIDE FULL CHASSIS REPLACEMENT
11)FRONT CROSS MEMBER REPLACE
12)ENGINE ROOM PLATFORM REPLACE
13)REAR CROSS MEMBER REPLACE
14)FULL BODY SCRAPING
15)PAINT & CLEAR COAT

Basically we're making a new car

theMAG · 25th November 2007, 18:42

Nice to see (one of) your pet project(s) take final form so neatly. Best of luck and hope to see some duels with a black Amby with no papers.

Ram · 25th November 2007, 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeroid

The reason for putting in the Isuzu is that the car will be a DAILY DRIVE for my dad. Therefore it will feature original exteriors but modern comforts, mechanicals and running gear to ensure reliability and usability. The original engine will never be able to drive an A/c.

I thought you wanted a genuine classic.
Getting reliability and usability under control may be more uphill than you imagine. Any reason for gutting out and hot-rodding a period car, rather than just picking a contemporary car with all its comforts, reliability and after sales service?

Jaggu · 25th November 2007, 19:43

Congratz steer indeed a great project. Keep us updated

25th November 2007, 12:34	#1 (permalink)
Steeroid Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DXB Posts: 5,411 View My Garage	My Landmaster Project This thread is a tracker for my Landmaster restoration project. As some of you may know, the one and only Karlos Deville helped me pick up a Landmaster from Pune last month. This is the car, a 1955 Landy from Pune: The car is original in most respects except the dashboard + instrument cluster and the engine. It features a very sweet and silent OHV engine in place of the side-valve - so silent that you wouldnt know its on if it werent for the vibrations (loose mounts). The car also featues a larger aftermarket radiator and an alternator. It still has the semaphore indicators, and they actually work partially (they go up, but dont come down and dont have bulbs inside). The restoration project is completely in-house (Team BHP) on account of the following: 1. Car 'found', bought, paperwork done and transported to Bangalore by karlosdeville 2. Original Smiths meters generously donated by jyobeb 3. Car being restored at the garage owned by Desert fox 4. Engine will be worked on by Psycho 5. Last but not the least, this young member will help by staying away from it all - v1p3r The car is now at Desert fox's garage in Bangalore and work has already started. His band of merry men will carry out the following bits of work: 1. Strip the car completely, remove all traces of paint. 2. Denting, patchwork, painting, chrome + polishing. 3. Completely leak-proofing the oldie, double-sealing the car with extra beading for airconditioning to work. 4. Retrofit a Weber-carbed Conti engine, transmission and differential. Engine to be tweaked by Psycho in parallel. 5. Fit in the Conti's A/c, completely hidden from sight. 6. Fit suitable power steering. 7. Interiors to be done up in Tan leather, original Landy dashboard to be restored. 8. White wall tyres, Landy Steering wheel and switches to be sourced if possible along with knick-knacks like the old Jwala horn. We will track progress on this thread - hopefully someone from Motorsmiths will take some pictures (as of now and later) and upload them once in a while so we can view the progress. This is a unique effort by different BHPians - my role in this is limited as I hadnt even seen the car before the last week in Bangalore. Apparantly the car was good enough to be driven in from Nelamangala to Jayanagar in peak traffic !!! __________________ Cheers Steer In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is stoned to death. Last edited by Steeroid : 25th November 2007 at 12:51.

25th November 2007, 13:13	#6 (permalink)
iraghava Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 7,354 View My Garage	Congratulations on the project Steer! Best of luck & if you need any help sourcing any parts from Delhi or thereabouts, give me a shout! Khanak - The original engine might be quite tough to keep reliable for everyday driving. I think that's the reason that he's going in for the ISZ. __________________ There is a very fine line between "Hobby" and "Mental Illness".

25th November 2007, 13:15	#7 (permalink)
speedzak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kollam now. Posts: 3,449 View My Garage	So, it's here. I thought it's going to be a secret project. Congratulations and wish you all good luck. __________________ The squeaking wheel doesn't always get the grease. Sometimes it gets replaced!!

25th November 2007, 18:21	#11 (permalink)
moralfibre Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Back to Pune :-) Posts: 3,170 View My Garage	All the best for your project Steeroid. Hoping to see a detailed log if possible? __________________ "As long as there are short, balding, middle-aged men, there will always be a market for the Porsche 911." - A BMW Owner. :)

25th November 2007, 18:33	#12 (permalink)
Steeroid Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DXB Posts: 5,411 View My Garage	The following activities are currently scheduled (quoting directly from scribbled notes): 1)ALL FOUR DOORS PATCH WORK—INNER AND OUTER 2)RH AND LH SIDE RUNNING BOARD (6 PIECES) 3)RH AND LH FULL PLATFORM 4)REAR LH AND RH FENDER CORNER 5)REAR L.H./R.H WHEEL ARCH-INNER/OUTER 6)DICKY BOTTOM PATCH INNER AND OUTER 7)LH/RH WATER CHANNEL INNER AND OUTER CHANGING 8)FULL BODY TAPPING 9)MINOR PATCH WORK 10)TWO SIDE FULL CHASSIS REPLACEMENT 11)FRONT CROSS MEMBER REPLACE 12)ENGINE ROOM PLATFORM REPLACE 13)REAR CROSS MEMBER REPLACE 14)FULL BODY SCRAPING 15)PAINT & CLEAR COAT Basically we're making a new car __________________ Cheers Steer In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is stoned to death.

25th November 2007, 13:08	#4 (permalink)
payam BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pune Posts: 897 View My Garage	conratulation and allthe best for the project. I second with khanak why not keeping it all original??

25th November 2007, 17:36	#10 (permalink)
ajay99 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: trivandrum Posts: 95	I am looking for a good condition sidevalve LANDMASTER engine. Any idea what would be the price of one?

25th November 2007, 18:42	#13 (permalink)
theMAG Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bengalooru Posts: 3,583 View My Garage	Nice to see (one of) your pet project(s) take final form so neatly. Best of luck and hope to see some duels with a black Amby with no papers. __________________ If you lose your temper, you’ve lost the argument

25th November 2007, 19:43	#15 (permalink)
Jaggu Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,648	Congratz steer indeed a great project. Keep us updated __________________ The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference. -Calvin

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