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Old 2nd August 2013, 21:50   #736
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Got this from FB. Regn. no. seems to be of the '70s.

Bus used to ply between Trichur-Mannuthy route. Heard the bus service is still there but with newer models.

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Got this from FB. Regn. no. seems to be of the '70s.Bus used to ply between Trichur-Mannuthy route. Heard the bus service is still there but with newer models.
Interesting modification to original grill design! The corners in the original were always rounded.

Yes, this is from 1970s. In 1977, Tata had introduced LP 1210E model to replace this model LP 1210D. Externally, the new model differed in having asymmetrical head lamps.
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Spotted this Chevrolet truck on Satara Kaas road, seems its in proper working condition
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That's a Dodge/Fargo P6 series (or something like that) from the Chrysler stables, Canadian Division - assembled by Premier Auto in India. Not GM's Chevrolet.
Same truck, it is still standing there. It seems to be in a working condition still. Can someone explain what is the purpose of that oval type window next to the grill?

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Spotted this Chevrolet truck on Satara Kaas road, seems its in proper working condition (Pic of this truck was already posted by SuperSelect - Location is also looks same.)
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That's a Dodge/Fargo P6 series (or something like that) from the Chrysler stables, Canadian Division - assembled by Premier Auto in India. Not GM's Chevrolet.
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Same truck, it is still standing there. It seems to be in a working condition still.
While we're on the subject of the Dodge Fargo 'parrot beak' trucks, does anyone know if the Indian variants came with DODGE or FARGO badges on the bonnet edge? 'came across these fitted with such badges, for the first time hence wondering:





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Can someone explain what is the purpose of that oval type window next to the grill?
If you are asking about the small hole below the grille, that is for the hand crank start. A rod is inserted which is directly connected to the crankshaft. Rotating the rod will turn on the engine. Old Ambys (Mark 1 to 3) had this on the front bumper.

The side vents are for ventilation.

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See the link - http://www.abarnyard.com/workshop/handcrank.htm

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Same truck, it is still standing there. It seems to be in a working condition still. Can someone explain what is the purpose of that oval type window next to the grill?
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If you are asking about the small hole below the grille, that is for the hand crank start. A rod is inserted which is directly connected to the crankshaft. Rotating the rod will turn on the engine. Old Ambys (Mark 1 to 3) had this on the front bumper.

The side vents are for ventilation.

Amit,

I think W.A.G.7 was asking about this (see the pic)

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If I recall correctly - the airfilter intake was located approximately behind that vent - which was covered by a fine mesh type thing

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Amit,
I think W.A.G.7 was asking about this (see the pic)

If I recall correctly - the airfilter intake was located approximately behind that vent - which was covered by a fine mesh type thing
Perfect! I was asking about that very oval window! Thanks for explaining what it is. And Amit, thanks for pointing out the crank start hole and explaining it's purpose; now that you have pointed it out, I noticed it!!

Incidentally, in the pics posted by Stanher, those trucks don't have the oval hole next to the grill.

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Regarding Dodge/Fargo trucks progressively manufactured by Premier Automobiles, these Trucks were the " Kew " design Trucks from the Dodge Factory in Kew, Surrey. Hence the name ' Kew Dodge '.
The Kew trucks used Perkins engines in the UK and it was prudent to use the Perkins P6 Diesels here in India. The Trucks manufactured by PAL were badged 'Fargo'.
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Incidentally, in the pics posted by Stanher, those trucks don't have the oval hole next to the grill.
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The Kew trucks used Perkins engines in the UK and it was prudent to use the Perkins P6 Diesels here in India. The Trucks manufactured by PAL were badged 'Fargo'.
The Pics posted by Shyam are actually of Dodge trucks - possibly from a foreign location or imports.

From Dussey's post it appears that Indian versions were named Fargo - and being in a hotter climate, efforts would have been made to give relatively cooler air to the intake - here in India and hence the air-intake hole in the Indian vesrion - the adver posted bt Dussey also confirms it was there as a OE fitting

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The Trucks manufactured by PAL were badged 'Fargo'.
Both Fargo and Dodge brand names were used by Premier. In fact, the Dodge brand was more popular.

Quote from http://www.allpar.com/world/india.html:

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By 1944, the Indian company was created under the name of Premier Automobiles, Ltd. Two years later, with the timetable stretching out due to the war, the first assembly plant was built, in Kurla, Bombay; production started in 1947. Two vehicles were built, albeit under several brand names: a Plymouth car and a Dodge truck – the car sold as Dodge, Plymouth, and DeSoto, and the truck as Dodge, Fargo, and DeSoto, with Fargo being the brand for trucks sold by Plymouth dealers.
After Tata and Ashok Leyland commenced CV manufacturing in mid 1950s, customer preference soon shifted towards them and sale of CVs made by PAL and Hindustan Motors (which were initially sold under "Bedford" brand and later as "Hindustan") dropped significantly. These companies were able to survive only because they also made cars. Their CVs were notorious for frequent breakdowns and even the state road transport corporations refused to buy them for their bus fleets after seeing the performance of the initial lots. They were bought mostly by municipal corporations, state electricity boards, postal deptt., PSUs, etc. for their internal, non-commercial use. By 1980s, PAL and HM had to stop making CVs since there simply were no takers!

HM tried its hand at CV manufacture once again by setting up a new plant in Gujarat to make Isuzu trucks under license but the project was abandoned.
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From Dussey's post it appears that Indian versions were named Fargo - and being in a hotter climate, efforts would have been made to give relatively cooler air to the intake - here in India and hence the air-intake hole in the Indian vesrion - the adver posted bt Dussey also confirms it was there as a OE fitting
Actually, even the foreign made ones had those holes. Check the images available here:

https://www.google.co.in/search?q=Do...w=1366&bih=622

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Truck used for election campaign in Kerala. Does any one know whose political symbol is shown in pic?

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Truck used for election campaign in Kerala. Does any one know whose political symbol is shown in pic?

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If my info is correct it was the symbol of Indian National Congress in fifties before it changed to ""pashuvum kidavum"'
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If my info is correct it was the symbol of Indian National Congress in fifties before it changed to ""pashuvum kidavum"'
Brilliant!
I just read about the whole thing here
http://knowbharat.wordpress.com/2012...l-of-congress/
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As far as I can recollect, the pick up trucks assembled/manufactured by PAL were badged 'Dodge' D-300. The lorries were badged as 'Fargo' , hence the advert.
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As far as I can recollect, the pick up trucks assembled/manufactured by PAL were badged 'Dodge' D-300. The lorries were badged as 'Fargo' , hence the advert.
D-300 was a different model from the Parrot beak. Different trucks made by Chrysler for same and different markets were badged Dodge, DeSoto, Plymouth and Fargo. One would have to make a study of photos, ads, to try and figure out this confusing issue. Yesterday I came across a "Dodge" ad for the parrot beak.

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