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Old 30th December 2011, 22:38   #421
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Gentlemen,
I hope there are some Odisha readers on this thread.
I am trying to find out of OR has been changed to OD (?) yet on the plates. From searching around on Google, I have not really found out too much but am guessing they do not plan to change it until the new HSRP plates are introduced in.... well we have waited a long time for it so far so who knows?
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Trivandrum - KLT, KLV, KRT, KRV, KET, KEV, KBT, KBV KCT, KCV then the new series KL 01 FROM 1989
Ernakulam - KLE, KLF, KRE, KRF, KEE, KEF, KBE, KBF, KCE, KCF, KDE THEN KL 07
Just wanted to add the Kottayam series too:
KLK, KLO, KRK, KRO, KEK, KEO followed by KL 05!

KEO regd vehicles are pretty rare as KL 05 was introduced midway I guess.

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Just wanted to add the Kottayam series too:
KLK, KLO, KRK, KRO, KEK, KEO followed by KL 05!

KEO regd vehicles are pretty rare as KL 05 was introduced midway I guess.
KEO vehicles are not that rare,because KEO series started in 1988 and continued till 1st July1989.There were around 3000 vehicles in that series.
How many of them still survive is a different matter
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Evening all from Turkmenistan where I am spending a few weeks working.
I am looking for help and advice again please.
Gujarat appears to be in the unique position that it used GT and a serial letter in the late 1960s and early 70s while Pakistan Gujrat used GT and a serial letter up until probably 2006.

I am certain that Pakistani GTx are known with GTA, B, C, D, E and F although early 2000s personalized numbers are known with GTL 1 and GTM 73.
I am also certain that Indian GTx are known with GTL, M, N, Q, T and V.

It looks to me like they maybe split the serial letters between them for normal issues. Can anyone add any more letters to the Indian side of things?

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When the Pondicherry state was formed the vehicle registration was with a mere alphabet P. There was a blue coloured Opel Vedett in Trivandrum with number P 2183 (I remember so; perhaps number could be some thing nearest) before getting it re-registering as KLV.

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Evening all from Turkmenistan where I am spending a few weeks working.
I am looking for help and advice again please.
Gujarat appears to be in the unique position that it used GT and a serial letter in the late 1960s and early 70s while Pakistan Gujrat used GT and a serial letter up until probably 2006.

I am certain that Pakistani GTx are known with GTA, B, C, D, E and F although early 2000s personalized numbers are known with GTL 1 and GTM 73.
I am also certain that Indian GTx are known with GTL, M, N, Q, T and V.

It looks to me like they maybe split the serial letters between them for normal issues. Can anyone add any more letters to the Indian side of things?

Many thanks
Cedric
Always good to hear from you Cedric

I have the following for Gujarat, India.

GTI - late 1960s, early 1970s.
GTL - 1974 (perhaps other years too, but 74 definite)
GTM - early 1970s
GTN - ?
GTO - commercial series
GTP - commercial series
GTQ - probably private series
GTW - taxi
GTX - taxi

I also have GAx, GBx, GCx, GEx, GRx and GUx.
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I'm sure this has been documented before on this thread (couldn't find MHI registration though) but here is an old insurance note of our family's Standard Herald showing MHI registration to be of the year 1965.

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I'm sure this has been documented before on this thread (couldn't find MHI registration though) but here is an old insurance note of our family's Standard Herald showing MHI registration to be of the year 1965.

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The car may have been from 1965, but MHI is a series from Pune around 1971, give or take. The car must have been re registered at some point.
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When the Pondicherry state was formed the vehicle registration was with a mere alphabet P. There was a blue coloured Opel Vedett in Trivandrum with number P 2183 (I remember so; perhaps number could be some thing nearest) before getting it re-registering as KLV.
Rajeev,
In French India, they used several systems all white on black. What I have is:
1925?-30 number only
1930-39 IF and a number 1939-54 a letter for the district and a number
C Chandernagor
K Karikal
M Mahe
P Pondicherry
Y Yanaon
1954 ceded to India

For P the highest registration I have seen is 1717

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Karlos,
Thanks for the GT information. I am hoping Pakwheels will be able to help with the Pakistani GT letters.
I have GTL, M, N and Q all with photos on private cars or mc.
It does indeed look like they split the series between the two countries.
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There is a modified BSA bike for sale in Goa on eBay

eBay India: 1950 original BSA 500 cc chopper military style (item 120575850053 end time 27-Jun-2010 16:10:25 IST)

Amongst the images is one of the registration book, and it shows an illustration of a Mk 1 Amby.

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Has anyone else ever seen a book like this?
This is a new book. It was in use till a few years ago before the RTO switched to computerised versions.
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.... Gujarat appears to be in the unique position that it used GT and a serial letter in the late 1960s and early 70s while Pakistan Gujrat used GT and a serial letter up until probably 2006. I am certain that Pakistani GTx are known with GTA, B, C, D, E and F although early 2000s personalized numbers are known with GTL 1 and GTM 73. I am also certain that Indian GTx are known with GTL, M, N, Q, T and V.
It looks to me like they maybe split the serial letters between them for normal issues. Can anyone add any more letters to the Indian side of things? Many thanks Cedric
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Always good to hear from you Cedric

I have the following for Gujarat, India.

GTI - late 1960s, early 1970s.
GTL - 1974 (perhaps other years too, but 74 definite)
GTM - early 1970s
GTN - ?
GTO - commercial series
GTP - commercial series
GTQ - probably private series
GTW - taxi
GTX - taxi

I also have GAx, GBx, GCx, GEx, GRx and GUx.
I wanted to get deeper into this.
Gujrat was formed in 1960, so let us presume that on the Indian side the G series started after 1960.
A large part of Gujrat was under the Bombay Presidency, and so cars were registered BYA, etc. These were later changed, I have seen a case where BYA was reregistered to GCY. But that applied to Bombay Presidence, which I believe extended upto Karachi. Yet there were separate registrations for Kutch, Saurashtra Jamnagar etc.
I am quite sure that India and Pakistan did not co-operate when they issued new series for registration numbers. Basically before independance we had a system similar to the British, three alphabets and upto 4 numbers. After independance we had e.g. DLI for Delhi, BML for Mumbai, Pakistan had RIB for Rawalpindi, LED for Lahore, etc. After the partition there was no free flowing traffic between the countries, so this did not become an issue.
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Karlos,
Thanks for the GT information. I am hoping Pakwheels will be able to help with the Pakistani GT letters.
I have GTL, M, N and Q all with photos on private cars or mc.
It does indeed look like they split the series between the two countries.
Cheers
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After independance we had e.g. DLI for Delhi, BML for Mumbai, Pakistan had RIB for Rawalpindi, LED for Lahore, etc. After the partition there was no free flowing traffic between the countries, so this did not become an issue.
My 2 bits.

Cheers harit
Well I really doubt that there was any connection between the two namesakes Gujrat. GT was for Gujrat, followed by the alphabet A to Z and 4 digits. I can only guess that the GTA series started in around 1969 to 1970. The province of Punjab switched to computerised number plates some time in 2001 or so, which use a 3 alpha and 3/4 numeric plate.

The province of Sindh in which Karachi is located had switched to computerised number plates in 1977.
Karachi old code was KA and then A to Z and 4 digits. KAZ series were exhausted in 1974 and then switched to KCC, and then the computuerised plates in 1977.
KCC 1 was Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto's Jaguar XJ 6.

Rawalpindi was RI followed by A to Z, then 4 digits, but this changed when Punjab plates went computerised in 2001(really not sure on this date)
Lahore was LE, A to Z, then 4 digits, the LEZ series was exhausted in 1986, then became LH A to Z, then came LO A to Z, and finally the computerised plates.

Hope this helps!

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Hello Cedric,

I have just obtained this picture. Car is a Morris as we can read, the person looks Indian, but the number? So far I have not seen an MM series in India, but you never know. Unfortunately the background does not give clues.

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Haritji,
I just saw the picture you had posted with this particular post and told the UK member of Pre war minor network about the same.

here is what he had to say

"Kartik,
Now that IS a find. The location is almost certainly a well heeled area of central London, perhaps Hampstead or the Regentís Park area. The Indian gent looks very well to do and is immaculately dressed. The car is a 1929 Minor Fabric Saloon and the registration plate of MM 881* is a Middlesex issued number. I would love to get my hands on an unadulterated scan of that image. Many thanks.
Chris "

Now I was wondering if you could email me the copy of the same picture without the neon, we'd be very greatful.

I cannot 'PM' yet so here is my email id : KL1008@hotmail.com
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Haritji,....."Kartik, Now that IS a find..... Many thanks. Chris "
Ok see your mails tomorrow.

Here is a registration from Mysore, MY9090X, seen on a Ford Consul, of around 1961. I thought that these numbers were pre 1940. Over to you Cedric.

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