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Old 24th October 2012, 06:27   #691
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The Palace also had a two tone Mk I / II Ambassador and a Vanguard I used to see all the time - in addition to the cream Mercedes which was the official "Temple Car"
Here is one more for Ram to comment on. This car seems to have a "KLT" registration,so possibly an "update" to a Mark III ? The older headlamp trim seems to have been retained.

My memory says the two tone Palace Ambassador was a Mk I/II.

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The BSA Rocket Gold star , Snap taken in 1960. also check out the landy in background.
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The BSA Rocket Gold star , Snap taken in 1960. also check out the landy in background.
Lovely picture - better suited to the nostalgic thread in the future.

It doesn't appear to be a Gold Star, more likely to be a standard BB31 or BB33.
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Lovely picture - better suited to the nostalgic thread in the future.

It doesn't appear to be a Gold Star, more likely to be a standard BB31 or BB33.
There is a sweet story behind this snap.

Few days back one of friend tagged a collash of his grand fathers bike's snap with his grannies sitting on it and he sitting on his bike in a similar manner with his wifey.That snap i have posted earlier in this thread, few days back.

After some days I noted the registration number in his sanp and some thing nodded in my mind. i have seen the same registration number some where ?

At last I was able to recollect the same number on the same bike near to my home in Trivandrum. As a result of that I was able to show him the current snap of his grand father's bike.

Even though the bike have changed much over the time , the bike is still intact and running condition.

My buddy was really amazed and he plans to buy that bike from the current owner who is a restorer, as the current owner is planning to sell it off.

After a very long break The BSA is gonna join its pedigree.

So happy to help my friend and i belive that it only happened because of my urge for rusting things.

This particular snap was send to me by the Old owners grand son !

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Check out an other running condition Oldie who carries the number 1
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Check out an other running condition Oldie who carries the number 1
Are these genuine Registration number plates or the one like the ''KLV-1""?
by the way you have not mentioned where you saw the saw called palace Oldsmobile??
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Are these genuine Registration number plates or the one like the ''KLV-1""?
by the way you have not mentioned where you saw the saw called palace Oldsmobile??
The olds mobile snap was sent to be by my friend, as he said its some where in Trivandrum.

The other is Genuine
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lets drool the KLV-1 Oldsmobile the palace car !
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This Olds is a 1962 model, and the grill seems to have been customised. This is what it should have looked like, a similar car balow, slightly different though.
I think the grille on the KLV-1 Olds is original enough. It's just the headlight bezel that I have my doubts about. Also the windscreen - looks like a later graft. The red '62 posted in the reference pic is clearly a different body style than the green KLV-1, which sports the later generation's style.

Now, this part I'm not very sure of, but the red one is probably a 88 or a 85, if I remember right - smaller than the larger 98 that KLV-1 should be, which also clearly reflects the shape that yank family boats were evolving into, towards the mid 60s. Or maybe both are either 88s or 98s, but different generations. Not sure!
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lets drool the KLV-1 Oldsmobile the palace car !
Foby,

I don't know about the car but the number is definitely a spoof.

I don't know if you are aware - All the "State Cars" (the cars used by the Ministers of Kerala) are originally registered in the name of Director of Transport Department of Kerala (I am sure that this was the practice until 1992, but not sure what the practice is now). Yhey were all housed in the garages of the Goverment Guset House, Thycaud - The old Residency (official residence of the British Resudent of Travancore, opposite Government Model High School Trivandrum (where yours truly studied from 1964 to 1974) and always used to hang around the Garages at what ever "free periods" were available

Accordingly I know that the KLV - 1 was the car that was bought for Sri E M Shankaran Namboodiripad ( Com. EMS) when he became the Chief Minister of Kerala in 1967. The Car ran with the board of State Car 01. It was a Black Amby MK II. It was latter running in Trivandrum with KLV 1 plate as the official car of the Director of Transport Department.

In kerala to the best of my knowledge the transfer of number has not beem implemented and hence, the number has to be a spoof as rightly pointed out by Ajay as well.

The emblem as well is wrong as it does not have the swords as shown in the emblem in the car and the counch is totally different as well. The correct one is as follows

The Cars normally had only the Counch

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The Cars normally had only the Counch
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Here is a picture taken from Post # 499 showing the Palace Plymouth, where the couch design clearly validates what Ram has posted above

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Here is one more for Ram to comment on. This car seems to have a "KLT" registration,so possibly an "update" to a Mark III ? The older headlamp trim seems to have been retained.

My memory says the two tone Palace Ambassador was a Mk I/II.

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Prem,

Sorry for the delayed response, as I was doing duty in the India Formula 1 GP in Delhi

The Red and cream two tone car in the Palace was indeed a MK II of 1965/66 model. This was one of the two original Factory paint MK II s in Trivandrum. The other one being a Blue (stripe) and Cream one.

The 2nd one is still with the Original owner family and still in MK II trim when I saw it last but with a Amby front glass fitted as the rear windows as well.

Both had numbers starting with KLT 7xxx. The Red and Cream then went to the jewellers Krishnan Nair & Sons and then to one of my uncles.

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Foby,

I don't know about the car but the number is definitely a spoof.

I don't know if you are aware - All the "State Cars" (the cars used by the Ministers of Kerala) are originally registered in the name of Director of Transport Department of Kerala (I am sure that this was the practice until 1992, but not sure what the practice is now). Yhey were all housed in the garages of the Goverment Guset House, Thycaud - The old Residency (official residence of the British Resudent of Travancore, opposite Government Model High School Trivandrum (where yours truly studied from 1964 to 1974) and always used to hang around the Garages at what ever "free periods" were available

Accordingly I know that the KLV - 1 was the car that was bought for Sri E M Shankaran Namboodiripad ( Com. EMS) when he became the Chief Minister of Kerala in 1967. The Car ran with the board of State Car 01. It was a Black Amby MK II. It was latter running in Trivandrum with KLV 1 plate as the official car of the Director of Transport Department.

In kerala to the best of my knowledge the transfer of number has not beem implemented and hence, the number has to be a spoof as rightly pointed out by Ajay as well.

The emblem as well is wrong as it does not have the swords as shown in the emblem in the car and the counch is totally different as well. The correct one is as follows

The Cars normally had only the Counch

Best Regards & Drive/Ride safe

Ram
What you have said is correct except for a small error.It should be Director of Tourism Department and not Transport, as there is no such Directorate in Kerala(only Commissionerate) .The residency building also belongs to the Tourism department.To the best of my info the practice still continues.
Incidentally Comrade EMS's personal car was also an ambassador MK3 with number KRV-5 and this car is still in existence
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What you have said is correct except for a small error.It should be Director of Tourism Department and not Transport, as there is no such Directorate in Kerala(only Commissionerate) .The residency building also belongs to the Tourism department.To the best of my info the practice still continues.
Incidentally Comrade EMS's personal car was also an ambassador MK3 with number KRV-5 and this car is still in existence
I did not want to correct what Ram had said!

My Dad was the Director of Tourism.....a treat for us as kids was to go to the "Garage" (they called it Gaaaarage) and see all the newly arrived cars as they came in from the STC. He would never give us a ride (against official policy, he always said). We could sit in them all we wanted.

I remember the Chevy Malibu Wagon, the Mercs, the Toyotas, the list just goes on and on.

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What you have said is correct except for a small error.It should be Director of Tourism Department and not Transport, as there is no such Directorate in Kerala(only Commissionerate) .The residency building also belongs to the Tourism department.To the best of my info the practice still continues.
Incidentally Comrade EMS's personal car was also an ambassador MK3 with number KRV-5 and this car is still in existence
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I did not want to correct what Ram had said!

My Dad was the Director of Tourism.....a treat for us as kids was to go to the "Garage" (they called it Gaaaarage) and see all the newly arrived cars as they came in from the STC. He would never give us a ride (against official policy, he always said). We could sit in them all we wanted.

I remember the Chevy Malibu Wagon, the Mercs, the Toyotas, the list just goes on and on.
My Bad !!!

Of course !! Thampi Uncle. Did you know that he was my defacto guide for my Masters (Sociology) Dissertation on "Impact of Tourism in Kovalam"

Thanks for the corrections.

Best Regards & Drive/Ride Safe

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