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Old 20th February 2009, 20:02   #1
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There are many Indian manufacturers who have been in India since many, many years like M&M, Hindustan Motors, Royal Enfield India and Bajaj Auto to name some. Even Premier Auto exists but only now makes utility vehicles.Many other foreign car and bike makers had left India due to old stringent laws of yore but have now reentered Indian markets by establishing the CBU, CKD or manufacturing base route.Many older car, scooter and bike lovers would be simply thrilled if the companies they owed loyalty to supplies them spares to maintain their beauties in pristine condition. Especially there are many old, imported Mercedes Benz, BMW, Mitsubishi,Honda, Toyota, Nissan/Datsun,Chevrolet, Ford and many other cars all over the country, which are now sold in India, but were imported earlier and their spares can be made available by the company to gain customer loyalty and confidence.
But there is a turn-off: The old Mercedes Benz spares are available cheaper in many spare part shops, but are very scarce and are prohibitively costly in company showrooms. These should be affordable and not astronomically priced.
A good beginning has already been made by Yamaha Motors India Limited.The RX 100 and Rd 350 spares are to be made available now through their showrooms.They have realised that we just don't junk bikes and cars after five years of use in India. Though one changes them for new ones in many cases, the older ones change owners and run till everyone is tired or else the automobile retired. Retirement from the roads can be due to non-availability of spares, which is a major reason.
I have a 1990,RX 100 and will find solace in Yamaha's long term plans. I had no problems ever in getting Genuine Spares from Yamaha showrooms since 19 years! I can sense the hardships my friends with the RD 350 might have faced all these years to keep the superbike in ship-shape.
I can only hope that other car, bike and scooter manufacturers (both foreign and Indian) can take sue from Yamaha's decision and make spares available for a long, long time to come to get brand loyalty of Indian customers.
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There are many Indian manufacturers who have been in India since many, many years like M&M, Hindustan Motors, Royal Enfield India and Bajaj Auto to name some. Even Premier Auto exists but only now makes utility vehicles.Many other foreign car and bike makers had left India due to old stringent laws of yore but have now reentered Indian markets by establishing the CBU, CKD or manufacturing base route.Many older car, scooter and bike lovers would be simply thrilled if the companies they owed loyalty to supplies them spares to maintain their beauties in pristine condition. Especially there are many old, imported Mercedes Benz, BMW, Mitsubishi,Honda, Toyota, Nissan/Datsun,Chevrolet, Ford and many other cars all over the country, which are now sold in India, but were imported earlier and their spares can be made available by the company to gain customer loyalty and confidence.
But there is a turn-off: The old Mercedes Benz spares are available cheaper in many spare part shops, but are very scarce and are prohibitively costly in company showrooms. These should be affordable and not astronomically priced.
A good beginning has already been made by Yamaha Motors India Limited.The RX 100 and Rd 350 spares are to be made available now through their showrooms.They have realised that we just don't junk bikes and cars after five years of use in India. Though one changes them for new ones in many cases, the older ones change owners and run till everyone is tired or else the automobile retired. Retirement from the roads can be due to non-availability of spares, which is a major reason.
I have a 1990,RX 100 and will find solace in Yamaha's long term plans. I had no problems ever in getting Genuine Spares from Yamaha showrooms since 19 years! I can sense the hardships my friends with the RD 350 might have faced all these years to keep the superbike in ship-shape.
I can only hope that other car, bike and scooter manufacturers (both foreign and Indian) can take sue from Yamaha's decision and make spares available for a long, long time to come to get brand loyalty of Indian customers.
Now for some stupid comments from me.
Never ever rely on the manufacturer for spare parts for old cars. If a car is purely a utility item, buy a new car, use it, get it serviced at the dealers, and get rid of it after 5 years, or even 3 years. If you like your car, then be prepared to spend time and money to keep it on the road after it becomes older. That is why normally you see folks rotating their cars quite regularly.
Just ask owners of the Premier Peugeot car. Spares, when available were expensive, these were supplied by importers, not the company. Or the Mahindra Ford Escort. I think Ford got a bad name over there. Car was relatively good, service support after the assembly agreement stopped was almost nonexistant. Mahindra just threw everything Ford related out of their premises. So what do owners of such cars do? My friend who owns a Cielo has purchsed a whole lot of parts from Chor Bazar, he is able to store parts. Not every one can.
When a company like Premier goes in the doledrums, spares become difficult to come by. So duplicate parts are used. But that was the case even when the company was alive, so many duplicate parts.
I have my Mark III Amby, even for that some parts are difficult to get, even in Chor Bazar!
It is amazing that Yamaha now supplies spares for older bikes. What is their motive? So many current companies make such support difficult. Anyone with an Opel Astra will know that the dealers are no longer keen to look at these cars. Full credit to Yamaha!
Then there are the companies with a "heritage" section. They do help, but their help is often expensive. Often they work with clubs so as to cut costs. I understand that the Roved club went and purchased all the left over parts from Standard and exported them. So the Indian Standard Rover owners can search with that club, here nothing will be available.
To help keep our cars on the road and restore obsolete cars, we have to rely on networking. This involves the company dealers, spare parts shops,
Chor Bazar, clubs, like minded enthusiasts, etc. A combination of all these will help you get and keep vehicles moving. The maximum I have waited for a part is about 18 years, but I got it.
Also, do not forget to buy the odd part for your car when it becomes available even if you do not require it immediately.
One last comment, many foreign car manufacturers do not have the ability to support cars more than 15 years old. I believe Ford in Europe cannot help the Capri & Escort owners because their warehouse burnt down. And it is very cost inefficient to support parts for old cars, often the manufacturer hand over their old spares stock to specialists or clubs.
And maximum support one will get from a club, but that costs money as they have their expenses too.
Recently I managed to get piston rings for a friends Polo, Volkswagen sourced these from a specialist who they were in contact with.
Now let us see which other manufacturer will support the old vehicle owners in India.
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Anyone with an Opel Astra will know that the dealers are no longer keen to look at these cars.
You can say that again, not just for Opel Astras but even for "old" M800 (SS80) I got mine serviced and some minor repairs done at a local Maruti dealer. Yet, they told me quite bluntly that they nowadays no longer accept such cars, it is only because I'm relatively known to the owner that they agreed to touch mine!
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An authorized Bajaj service centre in Chennai, Auto Park, broke one of the side panels of my KB125. I finally had to buy replacements from General Patters Road, which obviously are not of the best quality. They are functional but not flush fitting and don't match the colour stripe scheme of the original KB125.

I have to give credit to Jai Auto Adayar, Chennai (member deepakchan) for finding a replacement tail light assembly from LUMAX. After more than a decade, the tail lamp bulb fused and since the screws had rusted, Jai had no option but to break the lens cover (on my terms: only if they could find a replacement).

I wish Bajaj does something similar to Yamaha in terms of supplying spares.
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Thanks harit - your observations are quite practical and are faced by each one of us on "missions spare hunt" to keep our machines alive and kicking.Yes most manufacturers care the least to keep the spare supply line on.And they prove to be prohibitively costly at times. An acquaintance bought a second hand Opel Astra for some 2.5 L a few years back.The Corsa was on the way out then. The dealer had spares for the Astra. This second hand Astra had no SV mirror on the driver's side. He drove to the dealer and the dealer saw his company price list and asked for Rs 4500=00 for the SV mirror.
Stanher right you are-even the 1986 Maruti (then new model) original front grille is not available any more in the market.
And hrag sorry to read about your KB 100-do post its pictures. The tachometer on it was a great leap for Bajaj.
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Hi, I am attempting to restore BSA - FALCON / BSA - BOND: - GT 50 (1984). Lights, shields, turn indicators, cluster switch, chain & sprocket, tyres, etc. etc. are a some of things I am looking for!!! Anyone with Parts info would be of a BIG help! and Thanks
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Hi Guys,

Help me identifying this Sprocket with Brake drum part of a two wheeler. I suspect this one to be of old Bullet but not sure.


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hey am in search of rims for my fathers 1929 chevrolet tourer. I`ll upload few pics so if anyone has these kind of rims please PM me. Its all "19 inch" rims.. car usually came wit plate rims as shown in one of the pics.. kindly please help me with this. Wooden spoked rims were also a option.
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